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1000' Monoprice Cat6 Solid 550MHz 23AWG Pure Bare Copper Wire Ethernet Cable Expired

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Monoprice has 1000' Monoprice Cat6 Solid 550MHz Riser Rated 23AWG Pure Bare Copper Wire Ethernet Cable (Various Colors) for $89.99. Shipping is free.

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Available colors:Features:
  • Unshielded Twisted Pair (UTP) Category 6 Ethernet cable
  • 23AWG solid, pure bare copper conductors
  • CMR (Riser) fire safety rating
  • 550MHz bandwidth
  • 1000 foot roll
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I bought and installed 1000' of monoprice cat6 cable in my new home during framing. 6 months later I got a recall notice that the jackets on the cable were not fire rated even though they were marked UL/CL2 or whatever. They are telling me they will pay to have the cable replaced in the walls and have sent new cable, but the contractor they have offered said they can't do the job because the cable was stapled to the studs and they can't do drywall work. So monoprice told me to find someone else on my own to replace the cable and rip up my walls, and rip up a stone fireplace for one of the runs. It has been a nightmare.

Still not sure I will ever buy monoprice cable again for in wall application.
no wonder monoprice is in todays shape. i think they spent all their earnings in that year to pay for your house renovation.
So I get you're upset about the situation, but you're giving them crap for trying to make it right? I can't think of many companies that would even offer this level of service to make things proper again.

You gotta give them some credit since most modern companies would leave you high and dry and make you fight to make things right. They'd force your to pursue legal paths which are an absolute nightmare and take a long time to resolve.

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lane_meyer
02-24-2021 at 07:41 PM.
02-24-2021 at 07:41 PM.
Quote from danny951 :
I bought and installed 1000' of monoprice cat6 cable in my new home during framing. 6 months later I got a recall notice that the jackets on the cable were not fire rated even though they were marked UL/CL2 or whatever. They are telling me they will pay to have the cable replaced in the walls and have sent new cable, but the contractor they have offered said they can't do the job because the cable was stapled to the studs and they can't do drywall work. So monoprice told me to find someone else on my own to replace the cable and rip up my walls, and rip up a stone fireplace for one of the runs. It has been a nightmare.

Still not sure I will ever buy monoprice cable again for in wall application.
Not sure why this is such a big deal... So you discovered Its not fire retardant... Do you have fires in your house close to the wire? Are you in fear that if your house catches fire and its discovered the wire is not UL then insurance will not pay? Then you should have built a concrete house with metal conduit. Ethernet wire is not a highly combustible item unlike most other building material used in home construction like wood, and asphalt shingles.... If you were that concerned perhaps you should have run metal conduit for all voltage drops including electrical or looked at running plenum cable...
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MitchJ
02-24-2021 at 07:44 PM.
02-24-2021 at 07:44 PM.
I always wanted to do something like this, but I figured everyone would want to just use wireless. But it sounds like a lot of people on this forum use this kind of thing.

How common would you guys say it is to use stuff like this? Is the frequency of use going up or going down?

Thanks
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02-24-2021 at 07:57 PM.
02-24-2021 at 07:57 PM.
Quote from br1ckhouse :
If I want this to be installed in an office but needs wire runs across the ceiling, CMR isn't enough right? I believe I need plenum but correct me if I am misunderstanding this.
It depends.

https://www.waveform.com/blogs/ma...y-and-when
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leecm
02-24-2021 at 08:01 PM.
02-24-2021 at 08:01 PM.
How much does this cost usually?
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02-24-2021 at 08:10 PM.
02-24-2021 at 08:10 PM.
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My concern is if there were ever a fire in the house, would my insurance blame me for not having this cable replaced?
Play stupid...
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02-24-2021 at 08:48 PM.
02-24-2021 at 08:48 PM.
Quote from lane_meyer :
Not sure why this is such a big deal... So you discovered Its not fire retardant... Do you have fires in your house close to the wire? Are you in fear that if your house catches fire and its discovered the wire is not UL then insurance will not pay? Then you should have built a concrete house with metal conduit. Ethernet wire is not a highly combustible item unlike most other building material used in home construction like wood, and asphalt shingles.... If you were that concerned perhaps you should have run metal conduit for all voltage drops including electrical or looked at running plenum cable...

I was wondering the same kinda thing.

This thread is interesting: https://forum.audiogon.com/discus...-insurance

"Things like this happen all the time. People ignorantly splice copper wire into aluminum wire and start fires. People clean their oil furnaces with cigarettes dangling out of their mouths. People put rags soaked with furniture stain in sealed bags. People put 100watt bulbs in recessed light fixtures designed for 40watt bulbs. People paint rooms with highly volatile primers and no ventilation, then get blown out the door in a fireball when they flip off the 1901-vintage light switch. All stupid acts committed by the insured, all covered without much of a second thought, no court, no arbitration. There is no exclusion for stupidity or error under your policy."

Still - check your policy.

I'm not saying you shouldn't GENERALLY be careful, have smoke detectors exactly where the law requires or experts suggest, etc. ... just curious if there's a 0.00001% chance of it killing you or a .01% chance.
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02-24-2021 at 09:11 PM.
02-24-2021 at 09:11 PM.
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If I want this to be installed in an office but needs wire runs across the ceiling, CMR isn't enough right? I believe I need plenum but correct me if I am misunderstanding this.

When running in a plenum use plenum rated. True that ceiling may not be technically used as a plenum air return but you don't need to be making that argument to the inspector. We only buy and use plenum so there are no mistakes or inspection issues. All cable is not the same. I tested a few boxes of monoprice. The box was nice and compact but the cable jacket was thin and tended to kink. We stick to name brands. If you just need a box or two and don't need a full box you can usually find good deals on ebay for quality cable part used. My hunch is cable techs sell left over boxes from jobs instead of bringing them back to the shop.
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02-24-2021 at 09:13 PM.
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What Jacks are recommended with this cable?
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02-24-2021 at 09:15 PM.
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Quote from MitchJ :
I always wanted to do something like this, but I figured everyone would want to just use wireless. But it sounds like a lot of people on this forum use this kind of thing.

How common would you guys say it is to use stuff like this? Is the frequency of use going up or going down?

Thanks

As much as wireless has progressed, it still does not replace a proper ethernet run. My house is fully outfitted with Unifi gear to handle my Wi-Fi needs (pFsense backbone though) but I still run ethernet whenever it is possible and feasible. The peace of mind that those runs just "work" is enough for me to go through the effort. There's nothing worse than an unstable Wi-Fi connection no matter how good your gear is.

I've also recently built a Reolink camera network isolated to a closed vlan. Knowing it's nearly impossible for someone to compromise those cameras is very refreshing. Wi-Fi based cams (and any other IoT device) have all sorts of vulnerabilities. Since my system is all physically powered and controlled via PoE, someone would need to be on site to tamper with my cameras and even then they wouldn't get very far even with access to the designated ethernet lines powering the cameras.

I fell down this rabbit hole a year ago and have really enjoyed the system I've built (rock solid too) not to mention learning a lot in the process.

Wi-Fi is great, but proper ethernet is king.
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02-24-2021 at 09:45 PM.
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Quote from paruchuribros :
What Jacks are recommended with this cable?

Cat 6 Platinum, Made in USA, are very good. Don't go for cheap China junk. There is a difference between the cat 5e and cat 6 jack. Google is your friend.
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02-24-2021 at 09:54 PM.
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Quote from MitchJ :
I always wanted to do something like this, but I figured everyone would want to just use wireless. But it sounds like a lot of people on this forum use this kind of thing.

How common would you guys say it is to use stuff like this? Is the frequency of use going up or going down?

Thanks
Wired is always better than wireless, if your device has that option. Among other things, I use this wire to connect mesh wifi access points via Ethernet backhaul.
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02-24-2021 at 09:56 PM.
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Monoprice has agreed to pay for the new cable as well as for the contractor to replace it (materials and labor). On paper it's a good faith action from them. In reality it's just a huge headache.

I paid $50/run to have the builder install it not including the cable cost. So I'm in close to a grand and now have to have my brand new house ripped up, hoping the contractor will do a good job in the repairs for drywall pitching and painting. But there's dust, debris, noise, inconvenience, etc. That part of it is not being covered.
There is a good discussion in this forum about the recalled cable. https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/mon...all.50950/

Based on the tests run by members to try to burn the cable some people in the forum decided not to replace the cable in their homes.
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02-24-2021 at 09:58 PM.
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Cat 6 is 23AWG and slightly thicker and stiffer than cat 5e 24AWG, i.e. harder to crimp. There are some great videos and tutorials on how to crimp a perfect cable. Google is your friend.. I use a Klein Tools Scout Jr. Tester to test the cable after crimping. These cables are great for the price. As long as you are running the cables thru walls, drop ceilings, attics etc. you should have no issues.
Don't waste money on Plenum cables unless absolutely necessary.
Cat 6 is good for10GB data transfer upto 180 feet cable length. A cable longer than that will affect speed. Most homeowners will never use a cable that long. I don't see home internet speed going to 10GB per second, anytime soon. Many parts of the country don't have broadband yet. So in my opinion anything over cat 6, is an overkill. You will probably sell your house sooner.
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02-24-2021 at 10:24 PM.
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Quote from leecm :
How much does this cost usually?
When I was pricing out various colors of this same 1000' cat6 cable last week, the average price was close to $130 after shipping. If a color was cheaper, then it would have a higher shipping charge than a more expensive color.
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