Searched multiple times here but could not find the post so if it's a repost I apologize. Just wondering if this is a good deal and if RAM is upgradeable. Some reviews say it is but main page said user slot not accessible. Thanks
HP Digital Pen
Processor & Memory:
AMD Ryzenâ„¢ 7 4700U Processor at 2.0GHz
8GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows 10 Home
Drives:
512GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
No Optical Drive
Graphics & Video:
15.6" Touchscreen Full HD IPS (1920 x 1080) Display
AMD Radeonâ„¢ Graphics
Communications:
Intel® Wi-Fi 6 (2x2) + Bluetooth® 5.0
HP Wide Vision 720p HD Webcam with Integrated Dual Array Digital Microphones
Audio:
Bang & Olufsen Audio
Keyboard:
Full-Size, Backlit, Nightfall Black Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
Ports:
1x USB Type-C
2x USB Type-A
1x HDMI 2.0
1x Media Card Reader
1x Combination Headphone-Out/Microphone-In Jack
Power Supply:
4-Cell 55.67WHr Li-ion Polymer Battery
Up to 10 Hours (Mixed Usage)
Additional Information:
Dimensions: 14.13"W x 9.69"D x 0.68"H
Approximate Weight: 4.53 lbs
https://www.costco.com/hp-envy-x3...88710.html
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Not sure if that means soldered ram or max ram is 8gb, althought I doubt the max ram would be 8gb.
This one got costco 4 year warranty right?
This one got costco 4 year warranty right?
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how big of a difference does the 8 gb of ram make for someone mostly using the laptop to stream sports and do web based work? lot of typing notes. no gaming ?
appreciate the input.
I wasn't particularly looking for a 2 in 1- but it certainly seems cool- not exactly sure what I would use the pen for though.
is the drop off in ram worth it for the better build quality of the envy vs pavilion ?
thanks!!
* RAM:
- Both versions are upgradable. I upgraded them to 32 GB (2x 16GB DDR4-3200). It's a bit of a hassle to open them up since the screws are hidden under the rubber strips and require a #5 Torx driver (IIRC), a small Philips driver, and a small piece of plastic like a guitar pick to separate the bottom lid from the frame. The RAM is covered with an aluminum shroud that you have to carefully remove.
* Screen:
- 250 nits. Normally bright enough when you're sitting in a lecture room. Obviously not great for outdoor. However, it's not necessarily a deal breaker. For students, it should be enough. Touch screen is a bonus, but I never really had good use for it. I'm working much faster with my Logitech TrackMan.
- Pen: Only the Costco version comes with a pen and uses a AAA battery. Reaction time of the pen is "meh" because of the lag, especially when you're used to working on your iPad. In my case, the pen stayed in the box and was only used at the beginning b/c of curiosity. Should not be a deal-deciding factor.
- Screen format: Now *this* is important! BB's Envy has a much smaller bezel at the bottom compared to that one or two inches of black space on the Costco laptop. Therefore, if you do a lot of word processing or use spreadsheets, visibility of letters and numbers is obviously slightly better if the screen is not compressed, i.e. BB's Envy for the win.
* Runtime: I get about 5 hours of continuous Zoom time. Sorry, that's my only metric. As the laptop gets older, you can assume that battery life decreases, too.
* Noise:
- Amazingly quiet! For Zoom meetings and light work, fans are not or barely noticeable. It's a nice change to the whining of Intel laptops.
- Fans (there are 2 of them) are sometimes audible when the laptop is turned on or when you upgrade the BIOS.
* USB-C:
- PD (power delivery) capable, i.e. you can charge your laptop using a USB-C charger. I really prefer this route rather than lugging around the original power brick! Look on Amazon for a USB-C charger and compare how small and light those are! I grabbed a small 100W cube.
- 10 Mbit/s port: I was able to transfer 300+ MB/s between the laptop and an external SSD. Not too shabby.
* Power button:
- The power button on Costco's version is annoyingly located at the left side and protrudes prominently! You have no idea how many times I grabbed the laptop and accidentally hit that power button! Assinine design!
- Power button on BB's laptop is next to the small [Delete] button, and you might think that I would constantly hit it! Nope, never happened once -- and I type a lot.
* Ethernet/RJ45 port:
- Nope! If you need wired connection, you have to buy a USB-to-Ethernet adapter.
* WiFi:
- No problems with it.
* Camera:
- Well-lit and detailed video. No complains here.
* Other:
- I sporadically, but rarely had issues when my audio would suddenly freeze and I had to restart the laptop to continue with the Zoom meeting.
* Bottom line:
- As usual, it depends what you're looking for in a laptop since there is no "perfect" laptop. I don't game, hence cannot comment at its performance. But you can check out the various YouTube videos. I'm using my laptop to view CBCT (cone beam computer tomography) scans, and the GPU is plentiful powerful for that!
- For this price, it's easy to overlook the above flaws. So if you're student, this laptop would fit the bill very nicely (literally). If you need more memory, this thing can grow with you -- including your possible need for a bigger SSD.
- Yes, there is space for a 2.5" SSD, but don't think about putting one in there because you cannot find a connector that fits. I tried.
Hope this helps!
* RAM:
- Both versions are upgradable. I upgraded them to 32 GB (2x 16GB DDR4-3200). It's a bit of a hassle to open them up since the screws are hidden under the rubber strips and require a #5 Torx driver (IIRC), a small Philips driver, and a small piece of plastic like a guitar pick to separate the bottom lid from the frame. The RAM is covered with an aluminum shroud that you have to carefully remove.
* Screen:
- 250 nits. Normally bright enough when you're sitting in a lecture room. Obviously not great for outdoor. However, it's not necessarily a deal breaker. For students, it should be enough. Touch screen is a bonus, but I never really had good use for it. I'm working much faster with my Logitech TrackMan.
- Pen: Only the Costco version comes with a pen and uses a AAA battery. Reaction time of the pen is "meh" because of the lag, especially when you're used to working on your iPad. In my case, the pen stayed in the box and was only used at the beginning b/c of curiosity. Should not be a deal-deciding factor.
- Screen format: Now *this* is important! BB's Envy has a much smaller bezel at the bottom compared to that one or two inches of black space on the Costco laptop. Therefore, if you do a lot of word processing or use spreadsheets, visibility of letters and numbers is obviously slightly better if the screen is not compressed, i.e. BB's Envy for the win.
* Runtime: I get about 5 hours of continuous Zoom time. Sorry, that's my only metric. As the laptop gets older, you can assume that battery life decreases, too.
* Noise:
- Amazingly quiet! For Zoom meetings and light work, fans are not or barely noticeable. It's a nice change to the whining of Intel laptops.
- Fans (there are 2 of them) are sometimes audible when the laptop is turned on or when you upgrade the BIOS.
* USB-C:
- PD (power delivery) capable, i.e. you can charge your laptop using a USB-C charger. I really prefer this route rather than lugging around the original power brick! Look on Amazon for a USB-C charger and compare how small and light those are! I grabbed a small 100W cube.
- 10 Mbit/s port: I was able to transfer 300+ MB/s between the laptop and an external SSD. Not too shabby.
* Power button:
- The power button on Costco's version is annoyingly located at the left side and protrudes prominently! You have no idea how many times I grabbed the laptop and accidentally hit that power button! Assinine design!
- Power button on BB's laptop is next to the small [Delete] button, and you might think that I would constantly hit it! Nope, never happened once -- and I type a lot.
* Ethernet/RJ45 port:
- Nope! If you need wired connection, you have to buy a USB-to-Ethernet adapter.
* WiFi:
- No problems with it.
* Camera:
- Well-lit and detailed video. No complains here.
* Other:
- I sporadically, but rarely had issues when my audio would suddenly freeze and I had to restart the laptop to continue with the Zoom meeting.
* Bottom line:
- As usual, it depends what you're looking for in a laptop since there is no "perfect" laptop. I don't game, hence cannot comment at its performance. But you can check out the various YouTube videos. I'm using my laptop to view CBCT (cone beam computer tomography) scans, and the GPU is plentiful powerful for that!
- For this price, it's easy to overlook the above flaws. So if you're student, this laptop would fit the bill very nicely (literally). If you need more memory, this thing can grow with you -- including your possible need for a bigger SSD.
- Yes, there is space for a 2.5" SSD, but don't think about putting one in there because you cannot find a connector that fits. I tried.
Hope this helps!
I am new to laptops, for the nits is it just brightness only? So only matters if you use it more outside? or it's about the screen's color etc and how pretty the screen looks so the higher the nits the better?
Costco's version doesn't have an ethernet connection? Do more and more laptops are like that?!
I am new to laptops, for the nits is it just brightness only? So only matters if you use it more outside? or it's about the screen's color etc and how pretty the screen looks so the higher the nits the better?
Costco's version doesn't have an ethernet connection? Do more and more laptops are like that?!
If you are looking for color reproduction (gamut), these touch screens are not great either (I forgot the measured sRBG and other numbers). Definitely not good for Adobe Photoshop or alike, but absolutely sufficient for regular use (YouTube, office work, programming, web browsing, occasional light gaming).
Neither of them have a dedicated ethernet connection. Not necessarily a deal-breaker b/c of abundance of free WiFi in hotels and coffee shops. (I didn't say it was safe to surf in public...)
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I am new to laptops, for the nits is it just brightness only? So only matters if you use it more outside? or it's about the screen's color etc and how pretty the screen looks so the higher the nits the better?
Costco's version doesn't have an ethernet connection? Do more and more laptops are like that?!
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