I just ordered as they have been unobtanium in a lot of places. It's a great deal if you're in the ecosystem and don't need a charger. I'm upgrading from the brushed version, which has been a great tool.
I love the non Fuel version of the screwdriver. I have the Fuel impact and Fuel drill/driver but the screwdriver is what I use most for it's size and ease of use. I've never needed it to have any more power than it already has.
honestly... the normal brushed m12 screwdriver is fine...If you need more power...best to just use a drill or driver. fuel seems like overkill.
Not as much about additional power as it is about higher rpm's. Long machine screws and other fasteners make the speed appealing. And the great clutch makes the speed very manageable.
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03-02-2021 at 04:25 PM.
This tool (screwdriver) is primarily suppossed to be used when finesse is necessary rather than power. If you want power, as another poster mentioned, get one of the fuel drivers rather than this screwdriver. That being said, of the three screwdrivers that Milwaukee designed, this tool (the fuel version) was thought to be a little too powerful. If you want to purchase an electric screwdriver generally you don't want it to be particularly powerful. You want it to be responsive and have a good clutch so you can control it for more precise/delicate driving of screws.
Milwaukee made three electric M12 screwdrivers:
2401-20: single speed; first screwdriver model released; lightest model; 175lbs of torque; least powerful screwdriver used for very precise work. Many complained that this screwdriver provided too little torque; this model goes on sale a lot
2402-20: (this tool) 2-speed gearbox brushless (fuel version); heaviest model; 325lbs of torque which many indicated was "too much tool" to be used as a screwdriver
2406-20: 2-speed gearbox; 275lbs of torque; last model released; this model rarely goes on sale; is considered a good hybrid between the precision of 2401 and the power of 2402. From what I've read most consider this the preferred M12 screwdriver to get.
Due to the increase in torque with this tool, you'd probably be better off and have more verstility with just getting the M12 fuel driver.
Still, not a bad price with a 4Ah M12 battery thrown in.
2401-20: single speed; first screwdriver model released; lightest model; 175lbs of torque; least powerful screwdriver used for very precise work. Many complained that this screwdriver provided too little torque; this model goes on sale a lot
I have this model and seen it go on sale a couple of times and people always complain its a waste of space. I have owned mine for 2 or 3 years and love it for the type of work I do with it. I have run into 2 or 3 circumstances where it could have done with a little more power so I quite like the idea of upgrading.
Can the 2402-20 model be the equivalent lower force tool on speed 1 setting with the clutch set to low
This tool (screwdriver) is primarily suppossed to be used when finesse is necessary rather than power. If you want power, as another poster mentioned, get one of the fuel drivers rather than this screwdriver. That being said, of the three screwdrivers that Milwaukee designed, this tool (the fuel version) was thought to be a little too powerful. If you want to purchase an electric screwdriver generally you don't want it to be particularly powerful. You want it to be responsive and have a good clutch so you can control it for more precise/delicate driving of screws.
Milwaukee made three electric M12 screwdrivers:
2401-20: single speed; first screwdriver model released; lightest model; 175lbs of torque; least powerful screwdriver used for very precise work. Many complained that this screwdriver provided too little torque; this model goes on sale a lot
2402-20: (this tool) 2-speed gearbox brushless (fuel version); heaviest model; 325lbs of torque which many indicated was "too much tool" to be used as a screwdriver
2406-20: 2-speed gearbox; 275lbs of torque; last model released; this model rarely goes on sale; is considered a good hybrid between the precision of 2401 and the power of 2402. From what I've read most consider this the preferred M12 screwdriver to get.
Due to the increase in torque with this tool, you'd probably be better off and have more verstility with just getting the M12 fuel driver.
Still, not a bad price with a 4Ah M12 battery thrown in.
2401-20 has variable speed trigger and it is plenty of torque for a screwdriver for most DIY jobs.
I have this model and seen it go on sale a couple of times and people always complain its a waste of space. I have owned mine for 2 or 3 years and love it for the type of work I do with it. I have run into 2 or 3 circumstances where it could have done with a little more power so I quite like the idea of upgrading.
Can the 2402-20 model be the equivalent lower force tool on speed 1 setting with the clutch set to low
I believe the 2 clutch setting controls on the 2402 only control the speed of the drill rather than the torque (level 1 = 0-450 RPM; level 2 = 0-1,700 RPM). I don't believe the torque level varies between the two clutch settings which is why people had issues with it camming out light duty screws when using it due to the high torque rating.
2401-20 has variable speed trigger and it is plenty of torque for a screwdriver for most DIY jobs.
Just reporting what others were indicating which is why Milwaukee decided to go back and design higher torque rated screwdrivers. I got the 2406 model for this reason which is very hard to come by and sales almost never occur.
Just reporting what others were indicating which is why Milwaukee decided to go back and design higher torque rated screwdrivers. I got the 2406 model for this reason which is very hard to come by and sales almost never occur.
Same here. I think Milwaukee users tend to be professionals and they are hard on tools both in review and use. DIYers don't tend to use tools like professionals.
I believe the 2 clutch setting controls on the 2402 only control the speed of the drill rather than the torque (level 1 = 0-450 RPM; level 2 = 0-1,700 RPM). I don't believe the torque level varies between the two clutch settings which is why people had issues with it camming out light duty screws when using it due to the high torque rating.
I do alot of Automotive work mounting license plates and removing stereo surround screws etc and always found the 2401 to be an excellent fit. Just so im understand this right if I go grab the 2402 even on clutch setting one it can destroy soft screws?
Was thinking about selling the 2401 and upgrading to the 2402 but sounds like I should keep both.
I do alot of Automotive work mounting license plates and removing stereo surround screws etc and always found the 2401 to be an excellent fit. Just so im understand this right if I go grab the 2402 even on clutch setting one it can destroy soft screws?
Was thinking about selling the 2401 and upgrading to the 2402 but sounds like I should keep both.
Sorry, I should clarify what I meant. The switch on the top (noted as "1" or "2") is to adjust the speed control (1 = 0-450 RPM and 2= 0-1,700RPM). The screwdriver can operate at different speeds because the screwdriver's trigger allows for variable speed depending on how far down you press the trigger (which someone commented already on this thread). Torque will remain the same regardles of which speed setting you choose.
The screwdriver also comes with a clutch ring and has 18 different clutch settings. Each setting gradually increases the torque for the driver. Generally tool manufacturers do not post how a specific clutch setting equals a specific torque force so you'll need to experiment with your screws and materials to figure out which clutch setting allows you to screw your fastener into your materials with the least amount of torque so you minimize potential damage to your screw head.
In your setting (attaching/removing license plates and surround sound speakers) I would think you'd want to dial the clutch setting down to a very low setting and I'd think you'd want a lot of control so your speed setting should be set at "1."
The improvement of 2402 vs 2401 is that 2402 is brushless (so more power and more efficient) and has two speed settings and more clutch settings (18 vs 16). In your situation I don't think there would be any reason to "upgrade" to the 2402 model.
I like the chuck and clutch combo on the brushed version but also feel I need more speed. This faster version doesn't add in the speed ramp-up like you see on some of the other tools like the fuel hammer drill does it? Where the lower the clutch setting the slower it starts and eventually ramps up to full speed? I can't get my hands in one of these to check.
No step up in speed at any clutch setting. Full chooch right from the gate! I'm gonna love this thing for trim out.
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According to Grainger, I'll let you know on Friday 😂
Not as much about additional power as it is about higher rpm's. Long machine screws and other fasteners make the speed appealing. And the great clutch makes the speed very manageable.
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank smithmal
Milwaukee made three electric M12 screwdrivers:
2401-20: single speed; first screwdriver model released; lightest model; 175lbs of torque; least powerful screwdriver used for very precise work. Many complained that this screwdriver provided too little torque; this model goes on sale a lot
2402-20: (this tool) 2-speed gearbox brushless (fuel version); heaviest model; 325lbs of torque which many indicated was "too much tool" to be used as a screwdriver
2406-20: 2-speed gearbox; 275lbs of torque; last model released; this model rarely goes on sale; is considered a good hybrid between the precision of 2401 and the power of 2402. From what I've read most consider this the preferred M12 screwdriver to get.
Due to the increase in torque with this tool, you'd probably be better off and have more verstility with just getting the M12 fuel driver.
Still, not a bad price with a 4Ah M12 battery thrown in.
Can the 2402-20 model be the equivalent lower force tool on speed 1 setting with the clutch set to low
Milwaukee made three electric M12 screwdrivers:
2401-20: single speed; first screwdriver model released; lightest model; 175lbs of torque; least powerful screwdriver used for very precise work. Many complained that this screwdriver provided too little torque; this model goes on sale a lot
2402-20: (this tool) 2-speed gearbox brushless (fuel version); heaviest model; 325lbs of torque which many indicated was "too much tool" to be used as a screwdriver
2406-20: 2-speed gearbox; 275lbs of torque; last model released; this model rarely goes on sale; is considered a good hybrid between the precision of 2401 and the power of 2402. From what I've read most consider this the preferred M12 screwdriver to get.
Due to the increase in torque with this tool, you'd probably be better off and have more verstility with just getting the M12 fuel driver.
Still, not a bad price with a 4Ah M12 battery thrown in.
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Can the 2402-20 model be the equivalent lower force tool on speed 1 setting with the clutch set to low
Was thinking about selling the 2401 and upgrading to the 2402 but sounds like I should keep both.
Was thinking about selling the 2401 and upgrading to the 2402 but sounds like I should keep both.
The screwdriver also comes with a clutch ring and has 18 different clutch settings. Each setting gradually increases the torque for the driver. Generally tool manufacturers do not post how a specific clutch setting equals a specific torque force so you'll need to experiment with your screws and materials to figure out which clutch setting allows you to screw your fastener into your materials with the least amount of torque so you minimize potential damage to your screw head.
In your setting (attaching/removing license plates and surround sound speakers) I would think you'd want to dial the clutch setting down to a very low setting and I'd think you'd want a lot of control so your speed setting should be set at "1."
The improvement of 2402 vs 2401 is that 2402 is brushless (so more power and more efficient) and has two speed settings and more clutch settings (18 vs 16). In your situation I don't think there would be any reason to "upgrade" to the 2402 model.
No step up in speed at any clutch setting. Full chooch right from the gate! I'm gonna love this thing for trim out.