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Select LA/SF Dealers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15k Fuel Card

after Tax Credits & Incentives (Select Locations)

$23,100

$52,408

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Ponzi
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I went to Hamer Toyota and they had balls to mark those up 3k plus 1k gps add-on. Came to $56.5k with no negotiation because stimulus money is here and dealers wants it all. Sad state
ExtremeOak
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Hydrogen Fuel cell is exempt from CA rebate income limits.

"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."

Source: cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/requirements/1470
sawman5
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Slow car, 0-60 is 9.3 sec

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hpark21
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Quote from wisebrat :
Thanks. But how about taxes deducted from payroll where by the year end more than 8k is already deducted.
8k deducted <> 8k tax owed.

Why is this so difficult for people to understand?

IF you get 8k deducted or even 9k deducted, but if your tax return results in IRS sending you like 4k, then you only owe $4 or 5k so you can NOT fully take advantage of 8k tax credit.

You have to OWE more than $8k in taxes at the end of the tax filing (normally without taking EV/Hydrogen credit) to take credit.
Quote from DoobieBrother :
Sh*t .. Yea your right.. this does not work if you take a standard deduction.. I am all in on fuel cell for on earth and farther. I want one, but I want it to work out.. When this tech is basic is when we explore the universe.
Really? I am not an accountant, but I THOUGHT the EV/Hydrogen tax credit (even most OTHER tax credits) is not affected by standard deduction. As long as you actually OWE more than $8k in taxes you should get the full benefit. Of course, check with your accountant/tax software though.
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alphakp295
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
That's the current price of hydrogen. However, ammonia (NH3) is manufactured cheaply and can be converted to H2 at the pump. The price producing is that way is $3-$4 per kg.

https://www.ammoniaenergy.org/art...e-ammonia/
That's the time that I will definitely jump to fuel cell vehicle.
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ToolDeals
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With the tax credits usable and free fuel for 50,000 miles, it sounds like a cost of about 50 cents a mile investment with potentially little to no resale value.

By then, someone will have a conversion back to reliable gasoline....

Running the numbers, a low end Toyota or Honda gas model (that have always retained great resell) is probably more cost effective and without the hassle of finding fuel.... if you can.
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SanDiegoLeo
Mar 19, 2021
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Quote from BrokePanda :
I just bought a 2021 Prius Prime for $17727 after tax and all rebates. Rather drive this than a Mirai.
Where was that deal
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DoobieBrother
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Ok I guess my point needs to be more direct.. It needs to be the price after all the tax credits, out the door to get it to the masses.. If I were looking for new and I could control the fuel costs, I would have to stop and think about it. It is so fascinating a Midwesterner like me forgot that hydrogen is in development.


But do not get me wrong.. I am knee jerk against batteries.. the tech fascinates me..
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Juggernaut_510
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I went to Toyota website and quote came out to $53,000 in the San Francisco Bay Area.
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Juggernaut_510
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Quote from SanDiegoLeo :
Where was that deal
Don't feed the trolls......

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nigerianscammerhello
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Quote from Juggernaut_510 :
I went to Toyota website and quote came out to $53,000 in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Less $20K from Toyota
Less $8K from federal tax credit
Less $4.5K from California rebate

Then Toyota throws in $15K of hydrogen fuel on top of that to be spent in the next six years.

And six year 0% financing so it's not like you're out of pocket or paying interest while you're waiting for these rebates/credits.
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nigerianscammerhello
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Quote from ToolDeals :
With the tax credits usable and free fuel for 50,000 miles, it sounds like a cost of about 50 cents a mile investment with potentially little to no resale value.

By then, someone will have a conversion back to reliable gasoline....

Running the numbers, a low end Toyota or Honda gas model (that have always retained great resell) is probably more cost effective and without the hassle of finding fuel.... if you can.
A low-end Toyota is going to feel like a low-end Toyota. This car is built at the Lexus plant in Japan. It's basically a Lexus that got a Toyota badge. https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-...car-report
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nigerianscammerhello
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Quote from ExtremeOak :
California rebate is limited to $300k for married filing joint, hardly "low income". See the resources listed at the bottom of the post.
Not true. There's no income cap at all. "The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles." https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...20vehicles.
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couches200000
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Slickdeal will be when one of you suckers sell me one of these to me for dirt so I can rebuild it to be something remotely practical.
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msgca
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Quote from zonedeal :
I just noticed there is a thread about this in SD, and wanting to share our case in San Jose. We saw the 2021 Mirai deal on last Wednesday, and picked up the car on Friday. We opted to finance and not lease since we are planning for 5-6 years on this car.

Price breakdown: The car we got is XLE + advance tech package with MSRP 52.3k, negotiated 5k off MSRP. This comes to 47.3k + tax minus 20k Toyota rebate and took advantage of the 0% 72month finance offer. With both 8k Fed tax credit and 4.5k CA rebate accounted for, our out the door price is about $19.5k. In addition, we received the 15k fuel card for 6 years (purchase) and 21 free rental days within 3 year. The car comes with 3 years/35000 miles of ToyotaCare maintenance for free.

Use case analysis: The car will be used mainly for work commute and occasional day trips to Napa or Big Sur, and we have a Tesla plus a gas car in the household. Also, there are 3 hydrogen stations within 5 miles with couple more in permit phase. The nearest station is
I may consider referral what is the benefit of it? Thanks, also which Toyota was that Steven creeks where I live close by
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berkeflea
Mar 19, 2021
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I wouldn't buy a FCV car. At best a lease. Drive it for 3 years and make it someone else's problem after that. It's looking like FCVs will die out. Seems unlikely they'll build too many more fuel stations. If they did, might be targeted towards trucks. Who knows if it'll be accessible for cars.

Even the investing community sees little future for FCV cars. They do see a possible future for trucks, ships, planes, trains, etc..., but not cars. Just that battery EVs solve that problem pretty well.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/09/j...rogen.html




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varuswamy
Mar 19, 2021
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Found useful information from zonelease on Leasehackr.

https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/20.../341508/39

Got booked for the 2021 Mirai from BayArea dealership and waiting for the car to be delivered next week. We have finance option and are planning to keep it for next 5-6 years.

Feel free to PM if you need a referral for lease/purchase.

https://www.toyota.com/mirai/referral/

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deusofhearts
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My family and I purchased three Mirai's from a dealer in the past two days. We math'ed out the actual cost of ownership after federal credit, rebates and HOV access and figured we couldn't pass up the deal. We all live about 5-10 minutes from an H2 pump and commute a predictable distance weekly.

I negotiated 33k OTD financed at 0%/72 months for the XLE + tech package and pre-installed accessories. This is before the rebates and credits that we all qualify for. I thought I got a stellar deal but my family members were able to do even better! YMMV depending on sales tax zip code, dealer doc fees, etc. We figured that as long as the H2 pumps are around for the next 6 years (or life of the fuel card), the car can be worth $0 at the end of the 72 month 0% interest finance, and it would have served it's purpose.

Initial impressions: Luxurious and comfortable ride at the cost of interior space. This is strictly a work commuter vehicle for me so space is not a concern. I've been commuting 40 miles round trip in a Stinger GT2 so it's my only comparison. For the standard 5 days a week commuting in Socal traffic, I realize I prefer the signature plain Jane Toyota/Lexus sedan experience over a high horsepower, sporty sedan. I also prefer the silence of the fuel cell motor over the exaggerated combustion engine sounds of the GT2, especially in "Sport mode" the piped engine noises become somewhat obnoxious (to me at least).

Tech wise, the Mirai XLE has about the same bells and whistles as the GT2. Some differences here and there but about equal all things considered. The GT2 sound system is significantly better than the Mirai to my ears and probably the one thing I'll notice when swapping between the two cars. I haven't played around with the Mirai audio settings, but it lacks the soundstage and warmth that I'm used to with the GT2.

Build wise, the Mirai feels very well assembled given that it's one of the few Toyotas assembled in Japan. I realize this could be my personal perception of Japanese manufacturing though. Perhaps it's a new car thing, but the Mirai chassis feels taut behind the wheel compared to the GT2. Some parts of the Mirai feel very budget conscious while other parts have a high end feel. For example, the trunk and glove box in the Mirai feel like they're imported from a no frills Corolla, but all 4 doors feel premium as you would expect from a Lexus sedan.

All told, I intend to keep the GT2 and relegate it to the spirited weekend driver it was meant to be and daily drive the Mirai. Having two vehicles will alleviate the anxiety of H2 pumps going down for extended periods. I most likely would not have purchased this if it were to be my only vehicle. I have read that Toyota has taken great care of Mirai owners by fully covering rentals during weeks/months long H2 shortage for what it's worth.

Regarding insurance, YMMV, I was quoted 800/year through Costco/Ameriprise for 100/300k coverage for my driving habits. Includes $8 premium per 6 months for Costco's version of Gap coverage that replaces the vehicle in the event of a total loss.
Last edited by deusofhearts March 18, 2021 at 11:00 PM.

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