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Select LA/SF Dealers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15k Fuel Card

after Tax Credits & Incentives (Select Locations)

$23,100

$52,408

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Written by ExtremeOak
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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Ponzi
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I went to Hamer Toyota and they had balls to mark those up 3k plus 1k gps add-on. Came to $56.5k with no negotiation because stimulus money is here and dealers wants it all. Sad state
ExtremeOak
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Hydrogen Fuel cell is exempt from CA rebate income limits.

"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."

Source: cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/requirements/1470
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Slow car, 0-60 is 9.3 sec

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Quote from Arcanlaw :
Yeah having a car with a full 300mi tank in my garage every morning is super inconvenient. I miss those gas station stops!
I know. And going on road trips is longer than ever - fun fun fun.
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Quote from ToolDeals :
Eavesdropping and feeling left out? .... lol... You saw who I was responding to and it was not you.

Meanwhile, $200 Million in taxpayer dollars have went towards the few stations to supply fuel for the hydrogen cars in just California..... that will require a minimum of $10 Billion for just the major cities. There is a reason why they are trying to 'give' these cars away..... and no guarantee you can find the fuel in the coming future.

Meanwhile, as a fuel, electric is much more cost effective if you charge at home. If at a charging station, it is at least double, that is still cheaper than hydrogen.
Yeah they said the same thing about electric a few years ago. Hydrogen stations will pop up.

Also, electric is not always cheaper than gasoline. And if electric vehicles ever make up most of the cars on the road don't you realize the power companies are going to jack up the prices? Then it will no longer be cheap to fill up that heavy and overgrown Power Wheels in your garage.​
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https://hfcnexus.com/us-map/

For those not in CA....
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Get an SR+ model 3 for 37k instead. Range is like 263 miles now and the infrastructure is vast enough to go anywhere.
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Not everyone wants to risk being paralyzed in an accident.
hey man. you get a front row parking everytime via handicap parking, plus you don't even need to get out of your car - someone will drive for you and carry you out.

In-person valet service.
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the catch is hydrogen is not catching on and you can't fill up anywhere. I was waiting and waiting for one of the "planned" hydrogen stations to open near me and eventually gave up this year and bought a plugin hybrid instead.
Indeed, limited locations
https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10370
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Just stopped in to say 50,000 miles might be about 4 years of driving. I know I don't spend $15,000 for gas in 4 years. Sounds pretty pricey to operate one of these things.
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capturstudios
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Quote from BrokePanda :
I just bought a 2021 Prius Prime for $17727 after tax and all rebates. Rather drive this than a Mirai.
I am looking to get a Prius prime. Can you tell me how you got that price?
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Quote from capturstudios :
I am looking to get a Prius prime. Can you tell me how you got that price?
for under $18k, Prius Prime is a good deal. Very versatile car. LIke a mini mini van.
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cobolisdead
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I find this deal to be quite dishonest and deceptive. The math is wrong for the cost of fuel, and the credits are accounted for like they are deductions in price. On top of everything else, this really is more of advertising than a reported deal.

That being said, this car isn't a bad option for anyone that has Hydrogen stations near them and their usual routes that they take.
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inquisitive
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Is this the cleanest 2nd only to nuclear?
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Quote from satnav4 :
Just stopped in to say 50,000 miles might be about 4 years of driving. I know I don't spend $15,000 for gas in 4 years. Sounds pretty pricey to operate one of these things.
I ran some numbers. See below:

Electric:
50000 miles in a Tesla at 0.275KWh/mil efficiency, which is typical for mixture of regular driving, will yield 13.750MWh. Multiple by 10% for charging inefficiency, you are looking at 15.125MWh or energy usage. Adding about 5% more for "vampire drain" for you typical EV, NOT Tesla, you are looking at: 15.881MWh. Tesla Vampire drain is closer to 10% over the 4 years. Here in SoCal, electricity at the low tiers is $0.33/KWh which means: $5240.73 electricity cost for those 50K miles. If you have the EV TOU plan, then each KWh is $0.09 or $1429.29 for those 50K miles.

Gas:
Typical gasoline car do around 35mpg these day or 1428.57 gallons of gasoline. Again here in So Cal, 1 gallon is around $3.5 or $5000. If you live in cheaper region, fuel might be $2.7 average or $3857 for those 50K miles. If you have a new Prius or those really efficient Hybrid, then you are looking at around 50-55mpg. So low end would be 1000 gallons of gasoline or $3500 in So Cal or $2700 in cheaper gasoline regions.

Hydrogen:
I don't have a reference, but OP says $15000 is good for around 50K miles.

Conclusion:
Yes Hydrogen is the way more expensive when compared to Electricity or Gasoline. So I would use $2700 if you are in the cheaper gasoline region or $1429 for EV fuel cost if you are in EV-TOU plan, etc etc. Don't take the $15K at face value.
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Quote from cobolisdead :
I find this deal to be quite dishonest and deceptive. The math is wrong for the cost of fuel, and the credits are accounted for like they are deductions in price. On top of everything else, this really is more of advertising than a reported deal.

That being said, this car isn't a bad option for anyone that has Hydrogen stations near them and their usual routes that they take.
The deductions is pretty accurate. The fuel is location and Electricity plan dependent See my calculations. Just count the car being $23K OTD after taxes and tax credit. Again if you only qualify for those credits. The fuel is not $15K face value. It varies quite a bit depending on how you charge/fuel up and where. I can be as low as $1.5K for EV fuel up during low demand time using an EV-TOU plan and as high as $5K if you use an 30mpg vehicles in region with fairly expensive gasoline.

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Quote from BrokePanda :
I just bought a 2021 Prius Prime for $17727 after tax and all rebates. Rather drive this than a Mirai.
Can you share how you got that deal?
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