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Select LA/SF Dealers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15k Fuel Card

after Tax Credits & Incentives (Select Locations)

$23,100

$52,408

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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I went to Hamer Toyota and they had balls to mark those up 3k plus 1k gps add-on. Came to $56.5k with no negotiation because stimulus money is here and dealers wants it all. Sad state
Hydrogen Fuel cell is exempt from CA rebate income limits.

"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."

Source: cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/requirements/1470
Slow car, 0-60 is 9.3 sec

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Mar 19, 2021
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steven99
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Quote from anthony32376 :
" complimentary $15,000 fuel card, which is good for about 50,000 miles or 6 years"

Ok so is this like a warranty in the way that it is 50k or 6 years whichever comes first ?
Or is that just an estimate of how long the fuel card will last and even if you have the car for 10 years and 70k miles you can still use the fuel card as long as there is still money left on the card?

Also what about an at home electrolyzer?
Do they exist and if so how much do they cost and how much in electricity would it cost for a fill up?

And what kind of range are we talking on a full tank?

Would it be same as gas?
Because with the low price of the car
I could see it being feasible outside of the LA/SF area if the electrolyzer is less that 3 or 4k
And if the car has a range on par with a traditional ICE

also is the fuel card transferable?
if I'm on the east coast could I sell the card?

if I could sell the card for 7k ,half price
and buy my own electrolyzer that would be even better

That home hydrogen electrolyzer doesn't exist for your price.
The local hydrogen refill station installed theirs for a couple of million, I doubt it will be that much cheaper for a home version.
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thanatossassin
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Quote from NukinFuts :
Holding-out for a car burning methane.
I think you missed your shot with CNG, but that was a car of diminishing returns. Power was weak at the get go, and even then it would lose another 10% of peak power over 3-4 years. I know my hometown ran a fleet of municipal CNG Honda Civics a few years back, but those are all gone now.
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ExtremeOak
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Quote from AndyP24 :
Agreed. Really nice car especially the supersonic red color. I bought one last Monday for $33,000 OTD 😄
Damn dude, that's a better deal then the one I got. Congrats!
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Deals.That.Are.Slick
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Quote from slicknod :
I own one. Definitely the wrong forum to post this in even though it is truly a slick deal.

The media/Tesla have unfortunately shaped the consensus that fuel cells are have no future and thus, infrastructure has been slow to expand, funding may dry up and go directly to BEV related componentry and of course, sales will continue to slow down.
Ironically, the power grid failure in TX actually illustrates that it's electric that isn't feasible. At least not in the US, using the century old 120v system.

Hydrogen has massive benefits including long distance and rapid refuels. But this is the US and we are no longer able to invest into things like this as a country.
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livindreamzs
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I'm having a bit of a hard time negotiating it down a bit. Can someone provide a screenshot of your price so I can use it to haggle a bit? I'm seeing people getting between 47-48k before rebate or 27k-28k after rebate and before taxes, fees, and registration (so about 32k OTD?)

Please help. thanks!
Last edited by livindreamzs March 19, 2021 at 01:43 PM.
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Quote from thanatossassin :
I think you missed your shot with CNG, but that was a car of diminishing returns. Power was weak at the get go, and even then it would lose another 10% of peak power over 3-4 years. I know my hometown ran a fleet of municipal CNG Honda Civics a few years back, but those are all gone now.
CNG is popular in countries that have the infrastructure to support it.
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Quote from 91LT250R :
It's 100% true. Gasoline powered cars still dominate the roads and sales by a long shot and that's not set to change for at least 20 years!

Yes, the new President and other politicians are pushing electric because they are invested in it and set to make a ton of money! Don't you realize money runs the world? Those who disagree haven't looked into the facts. Pelosi's husband, as an example, invested heavily in Tesla.
...and then he/she brought politics to the conversation. Tiresome.
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beaulieu
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There is a Hydrogen station right off the 405 freeway about 5 miles south of LAX ,

Was a shell station , now a chevron station.....

CNG is good for fleets with their own tanks to fill up , but there are not many other places for the public to fill up , Plus the tanks have to be replaced I think every 10 years
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Quote from sushlet :
Let me do some calculations to justify possibly buying this:

~$34k after taxes (+/- $1k?)
Take off $8k for Federal tax credit
Don't think I get any CA state rebate (I make over the income limit)

So that's $26k for just the car.

I get free fuel for 3 years (I'll never hit the free $15k limit considering how less I drive). If I consider how much I spend on gas (8k miles/year, $4/gal, 25mpg) over 3 years, I'd have spent $4k on gas.

Effectively, the Mirai is a $22k car for me with the amount of fuel costs I would save from a gas car.

Then if after 4 years it's worth ~$9k (according to previous Mirai depreciation, reminder that previous Mirai has a much higher MSRP).

A 2017 Camry SE with 30k miles is worth $15k (from $27k new, after tax).

If I sold both of the at the 4 year mark:
* Mirai costed me originally $22k, sold for $9k
* Camry costed me originally $27k, sold for $15k

It seems to be trading the more luxurious cabin with refueling convenience at this point as the cost of ownership seems to be within several thousand of a Camry.

Tell me if I got anything wrong! I'm genuinely considering buying one but I've been on the fence for a week now.
I think you forgot one factor for many of the people reading the forum. It is far and away more environmentally friendly than ICE vehicles.
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msgca
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Quote from AndyP24 :
I purchased one last Monday for $33,000 OTD. If you still want it, DM me, I will let you the contact there.
Can you share info with me? Screenshots etc?
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cao_nguyen2002
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
Yes, if there's hydrogen at the Coalinga station. You can check this at https://cafcp.org/stationmap

The distance between the Mission Hills station and Coalinga is 177 miles and Coalinga to San Ramon is 175 miles so it should be no trouble.
Mission Hills station is offline as of now. I don't know when it will be back. The website say the company Truezero is planning to fix it within the next few months 😭😭
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I was watching the youtube channel of Motoman, I noticed that there is a sticker that said do not refuel past a certain date. I calculated it at 14 years.
Most of the people on this thread have valid points.
The price is certainly tempting to those that can afford it.
The concerns I have is that when something goes wrong (minor or major), we can only go to the dealer.
After the 3 years maintenance free program, how much is the cost to extend the warranty/ service plan?
I know that everyone will receive different insurance numbers from their own insurance companies so costs will vary.
Is the sales tax on the car based on the MSRP, or the actual final purchase price aside from where you live? Different products have different taxation (i.e. cell phones)
If those that purchase the car can DM me, I'd appreciate it.
I'm in the SoCal area.
Thank you SD Fam!
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We leased a 2019 Mirai in April 2019, 36 months, 12k miles per year. We paid $2500 (cap cost reduction, acq fee/tax/title/license/doc fees etc.) cash due at signing and we did max multiple security deposits of $2,475 total (we get the $2,475 back at the end of the lease) to buy down the money factor, plus 35 monthly payments of $262.20 (including 9.5% sales tax), so the simple math version is an expenditure of $2,500 + $9,177 = $11,677 (counting the MSDs as a wash). We received the $5,000 CVRP rebate check in the mail about 4 months after. The carpool stickers came maybe a month before that. $15,000 fuel card included. All maintenance and bumper to bumper warranty are covered for the duration of the lease. We also got 21 days of rental car included (sidenote: Santa Monica Toyota has been awesome with the rental car procedures and selection of models).

It's arguable that our total cost to operate the car for 3 years is $11,677 - $5,000 = $6,677. Just switched to Esurance and my new auto insurance premium is down to about $85/month just for the Mirai portion--I have 2 other cars on the policy. 100/300 coverage. Switched away from Geico to save about $600 total for the 3 car policy per 6 months. We live in zip 91402.

Comparing the $6,677 Mirai net lease cost with fuel included against a 30mpg gas car, that's 1,200 gallons x $3.30 average per gallon = $3,960 cost of gas plus the cost of the car or depreciation--I'm happy with where we ended up.

Yes, I went for this money saving deal even though I feel like the Mirai is ugly lol. The inside is actually great. Fully loaded, drives pretty nicely on the freeway. Wish it had a sunroof. We also value the carpool stickers and rental car. I've been able to reserve all wheel drive vehicles for snow trips.

Other notes: We have 29,000 miles on the car now, and the Michelin tires have plenty of tread left. We won't need to buy a new set when we return the lease.

We also applied for an American Express Platinum before leasing the Mirai. We swiped the entire amount of $4,975 at the Toyota dealer, $2,500 cash DAS plus the $2,475 MSDs. Got the 100,000 point sign up bonus basically in one shot--I only need 90,000 Amex points to cover a business class roundtrip flight to Asia in the future, normally a $3,500 flight. That benefit alone justified the $550 annual fee.

At the time of our lease, we could have done a one-pay lease which would have been around $10,877 or so, but it would have been too hard on our budget.

2nd year registration was around $450 and 3rd year is $429. First year was included in the cash due at signing, like with most leases.

All this to say....we won't go for a 2021 Mirai unless the numbers are close to our 2019. I'd be willing to pay a bit more since it's a nicer design and fits 5 people. There's a $3,500 incentive right now for turning in our current Mirai but it's still not cheap enough for my slickdeals blood lol. The current $20k purchase incentive, $15k fuel card and 0% financing are huge, but the unpredictable resale value scares me. It also doesn't seem to be a very popular car on Turo. So, I'm not really seeing how some folks are saying this is a free car.

Cheers!!
Last edited by JohnBlaiyz March 19, 2021 at 11:40 AM.
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Quote from Coffae :
...and then he/she brought politics to the conversation. Tiresome.
Facts and truth hurt some. I just don't understand why though.

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This is deep research. And reminds me of the reason I m with slickdeals. Great job 👏🏽!!

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