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Select LA/SF Dealers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15k Fuel Card

after Tax Credits & Incentives (Select Locations)

$23,100

$52,408

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Ponzi
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I went to Hamer Toyota and they had balls to mark those up 3k plus 1k gps add-on. Came to $56.5k with no negotiation because stimulus money is here and dealers wants it all. Sad state
ExtremeOak
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Hydrogen Fuel cell is exempt from CA rebate income limits.

"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."

Source: cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/requirements/1470
sawman5
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Slow car, 0-60 is 9.3 sec

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carbonfiber
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
Incorrect and you're a troll for SLC who can't buy it anyway.
I lives in the bay area for 16 years, and I'm in the auto business moronLMAO
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TenseVest783
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Quote from mjt49 :
This deal seems dead in SoCal unless you're willing to pay near MSRP: only 1 dealer got back to me in the past 24 hours, and they were unwilling to budge more than $1K from MSRP (>$56K OTD). Anyone else having better luck? Seems that just a few days ago folks were getting $50K to $53K OTD.
I just one yesterday. Hammer Toyota Mission Hills seems to have a few left. 33.8 OTD before the Toyota loyalty dsct (extra 1K). PM if you need details
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Blindman
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Quote from TenseVest783 :
I just one yesterday. Hammer Toyota Mission Hills seems to have a few left. 33.8 OTD before the Toyota loyalty dsct (extra 1K). PM if you need details
So price is about 30 to 33.8 out the door?
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suednim
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Old saying: There are bad ideas and there are REALLY bad ideas. Guess what we have here. Oh, and if U fall for this, I've got hydrogen mine for sale.
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talals32
Mar 21, 2021
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Quote from deusofhearts :
My family and I purchased three Mirai's from a dealer in the past two days. We math'ed out the actual cost of ownership after federal credit, rebates and HOV access and figured we couldn't pass up the deal. We all live about 5-10 minutes from an H2 pump and commute a predictable distance weekly.

I negotiated 33k OTD financed at 0%/72 months for the XLE + tech package and pre-installed accessories. This is before the rebates and credits that we all qualify for. I thought I got a stellar deal but my family members were able to do even better! YMMV depending on sales tax zip code, dealer doc fees, etc. We figured that as long as the H2 pumps are around for the next 6 years (or life of the fuel card), the car can be worth $0 at the end of the 72 month 0% interest finance, and it would have served it's purpose.

Initial impressions: Luxurious and comfortable ride at the cost of interior space. This is strictly a work commuter vehicle for me so space is not a concern. I've been commuting 40 miles round trip in a Stinger GT2 so it's my only comparison. For the standard 5 days a week commuting in Socal traffic, I realize I prefer the signature plain Jane Toyota/Lexus sedan experience over a high horsepower, sporty sedan. I also prefer the silence of the fuel cell motor over the exaggerated combustion engine sounds of the GT2, especially in "Sport mode" the piped engine noises become somewhat obnoxious (to me at least).

Tech wise, the Mirai XLE has about the same bells and whistles as the GT2. Some differences here and there but about equal all things considered. The GT2 sound system is significantly better than the Mirai to my ears and probably the one thing I'll notice when swapping between the two cars. I haven't played around with the Mirai audio settings, but it lacks the soundstage and warmth that I'm used to with the GT2.

Build wise, the Mirai feels very well assembled given that it's one of the few Toyotas assembled in Japan. I realize this could be my personal perception of Japanese manufacturing though. Perhaps it's a new car thing, but the Mirai chassis feels taut behind the wheel compared to the GT2. Some parts of the Mirai feel very budget conscious while other parts have a high end feel. For example, the trunk and glove box in the Mirai feel like they're imported from a no frills Corolla, but all 4 doors feel premium as you would expect from a Lexus sedan.

All told, I intend to keep the GT2 and relegate it to the spirited weekend driver it was meant to be and daily drive the Mirai. Having two vehicles will alleviate the anxiety of H2 pumps going down for extended periods. I most likely would not have purchased this if it were to be my only vehicle. I have read that Toyota has taken great care of Mirai owners by fully covering rentals during weeks/months long H2 shortage for what it's worth.

Regarding insurance, YMMV, I was quoted 800/year through Costco/Ameriprise for 100/300k coverage for my driving habits. Includes $8 premium per 6 months for Costco's version of Gap coverage that replaces the vehicle in the event of a total loss.
Which dealer did you go to?
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KeithTTom
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Quote from zulloj :
Nikola is building a hydrogen corridor from Phoenix to LA, which will have filling stations all along the way, so eventually you will be able to take a road trip. Not sure if hydrogen will ever be widely accepted, but I sure hope so since it is the most environmentally friendly and truly renewable.
Also, LA to Vegas corridor and soon LA to SF corridor will have truck/car hydrogen. Then we will see if hydrogen can go main stream.
I have 2 Mirais. I love them, but I'm also close to a station near home-UCI and near work-Diamond Bar. Otherwise, it would be inconvenient.
Right now I use as a commuter car and wife as a run around soccer mom car. Any road trip travel would be through the Toyota free rental program.
Last edited by KeithTTom March 21, 2021 at 01:44 PM.
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mike786
Mar 21, 2021
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Go read the thousands of complains about fueling station issues.
Look it up.. No one, I mean Toyota has never sold a Mirai without over $20k mark down from MSRP. How much money will Toyota lose before they decide to end it? Lease!!!
I'm not ready this limited use vehicle yet!
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sillylouie
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Quote from TenseVest783 :
I just one yesterday. Hammer Toyota Mission Hills seems to have a few left. 33.8 OTD before the Toyota loyalty dsct (extra 1K). PM if you need details
If your sales person can repeat the deal...let him or her know to contact me at [email protected] and I will use you as a referral.
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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Quote from mike786 :
Go read the thousands of complains about fueling station issues.
Look it up.. No one, I mean Toyota has never sold a Mirai without over $20k mark down from MSRP. How much money will Toyota lose before they decide to end it? Lease!!!
I'm not ready this limited use vehicle yet!
Definitely a limited niche market for FCEVs. Highly recommend those to avoid decision buying FCEVs unless you really WANT this car then this deal is for you.

I has Toyota Sienna and a Kia PHEV. I was aiming to get the Tesla Y, still in my future. after seeing this deal, I did lots of research.

Here is my story:
1) Test drove
2) Negotiated with two dealerships (SF and Dublin)
3) Took a week to think about it.
4) Did more research about FCEV, fueling stations, chatted with other and previous Mirai owners, read and watch crap loads or articles and videos on the web.
5) Dragged my entire family to test drive it again
6) Decided to get rid of my Sienna for the Mirai
7) Turned in my leased Kia Niro PHEV and bought a used Leaf
8) I still have the luxury to buy another car if this experiment become too much of a headache.
9) My family doesn't drive very far often, and never driving out of California. We fly when we do.


* I have three hydro fueling stations within 15-20 mina. including a green hydro fueling station location in Emeryville. This is where the hydrogen is from renewable energy. let's be serious, most of us consumers priority is convenience and deals, green is just a plus.
* I can get all the incentives
* I've accepted that there's a good chance these are all the hydrogen stations that there ever will be for the entire time I plan to own this car 6yrs ($15K fuel)
* I plan to get rid of this car when my fuel card is up unless in the remote chance hydrogen fuel drops to at least gas prices
* I don't plan to get much if any back when I get rid of this car
* Rough ownership of this Mirai for 6ish years is about $7-15K and I am good with it because I just love how this car looks and drives.
Last edited by Duke-GlobeTrotter March 21, 2021 at 04:14 PM.
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Wierdo-X
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Anyone with half a bit of research knows EVs are the future and this is a dead end. This is just Toyota's attempt at milking subsidies on a dead end technology for the consumer market. End of story.

https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/defa...soline.pdf

EVs are clearly the way now, you wont find many legacy ICE products that will achieve the levels of efficiency or pollution by comparison, not even close, even in the most backwards states with the dirtiest energy generation.
Last edited by Wierdo-X March 21, 2021 at 04:57 PM.
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kingsfan626
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
Why would you buy a used one for $17k instead of a new one for $23k that is a much, much better car and will be far easier to sell?
Out the door price is $30k+ and you end up paying taxes on the original $50k MSRP. I also did my insurance comparison on GEICO and same coverage on both vehicles is $60/m for 6 month policy vs $163/m for a 6 month policy. I've test drove both 1st and 2nd gen Mirai's and the difference in performance isn't much better and definitely not worth twice the price just for exterior looks.

https://www.caranddriver.com/rese...hicle-tax/

Do California Vehicle Taxes Apply to Trade-Ins and Rebates?
California's vehicle taxes apply to the vehicle's full price before trade-in credits or rebates are applied. Many dealerships offer credits for trade-ins that decrease your out-of-pocket cost for the vehicle. For example, you may get a $5000 credit for a trade in that you can apply toward a $15,000 car. You will only pay $10,000 for your vehicle, but the state still taxes you for the full $15,000 purchase.
Similarly, a dealership may offer a manufacturer rebate or other incentive that reduces the price of your vehicle. As an example, you might enjoy a $1000 rebate for the $15,000 car. You will only pay $14,000 for the car, but you will still pay taxes on the full $15,000 sticker price.
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deusofhearts
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Quote from Wierdo-X :
Anyone with half a bit of research knows EVs are the future and this is a dead end. This is just Toyota's attempt at milking subsidies on a dead end technology for the consumer market. End of story.

https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/defa...soline.pdf [ucsusa.org]

EVs are clearly the way now, you wont find many legacy ICE products that will achieve the levels of efficiency or pollution by comparison, not even close, even in the most backwards states with the dirtiest energy generation.
I agree, EV's are the future, but at least for the next 6 years, I have confidence H2 will be available as a fuel source for me to deplete the complimentary fuel card that comes with this car. Best case scenario I use up the fuel card in the next 3 years, H2 goes completely belly up and Toyota is forced to buy back my clunker.
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th3g3ntl3man
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Quote from mjt49 :
This deal seems dead in SoCal unless you're willing to pay near MSRP: only 1 dealer got back to me in the past 24 hours, and they were unwilling to budge more than $1K from MSRP (>$56K OTD). Anyone else having better luck? Seems that just a few days ago folks were getting $50K to $53K OTD.
I bought mine right after the original Reddit post and got $2k off MSRP ($50k came out to a little less than $36k OTD). Little disappointed I didn't get the $4-5k off other people have got, but it's still a great deal either way.
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th3g3ntl3man
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Quote from RBA :
Closest proposed station near me (San Marcos, CA) is 19 minutes away (carmel valley/racho bernardo). But there is one on my way to and from work on the I-5 in Orange County. If they really want people to buy these they need a few on the I-15 to Vegas and 3 or 4 in Vegas (at least South Las Vegas so people an top off when arriving and leaving)
That's why Toyota is giving such a huge discount - they need the cars on the road to create demand for new fueling stations.

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KenEsq
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Quote from D_zee315 :
Or since it's still early in the year, ask your employer to reduce your tax contribution to force that you owe taxes. Put that money aside that would normally go to taxes so that it's ready (or growing for the year). Then reap the benefit of the tax credit.
That won't increase your taxes, it will increase the amount of the payment you owe. Those are two different things. At the end of the year you calculate a taxes owed amount and then subtract the amount you have already paid in. The difference is your payment/refund.

A tax credit goes against the total amount of taxes you have to pay. If you have other tax deductions or credits that lower the total amount you owe below $7500 you will not get the full benefit of the tax credit being discussed here.

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