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PC Mag reviewed this Laptop giving it 4 Stars out of 5 Stars noting its light weight size, immaculate design and engineering and impressive battery life.
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1) A lot of engineering applications simply aren't available for Macs. It's dominated by Windows, then Linux.
2) Too many engineers I know live and die by Excel. Add 1) to the equation and you know where they run their spreadsheets.
3) Most engineers wouldn't tolerate Apple's 'my way or the highway' mentality. Not for work and certainly not for personal use.
Fact is, Macs simply aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks. As someone else here said, I guess it could complement your iPhone, but then that shows how seriously you use your computer.
Is Apple making good computers? Definitely. Would I buy or recommend one? Hell no. Integrated SSDs, glued batteries and crappy keyboards is why I stay away from them from a hardware perspective. And why I love Lenovos. Also, I just don't like MacOS, but others may differ or be indifferent.
Got a source for that statistic or you just don't like Macs?
Different strokes for different folks. I personally work with virtualized machines and can't use the new M1, so I stick to Windows. But for folks with a Final Cut Pro or Logic workflow, or for Xcode devs, there's a place for them. Even as a lifestyle machine, if you've got an iPhone, having a MacBook to go with it is a nice seamless experience.
Fanboyism in tech needs to go extinct. We can have preferences but being all cutthroat about a product's use seems pointless.
It can go lower me thinks. M1X right around the corner. All laptops priced $1000+ will get obliterated (nongaming).
I think that's a big postulation. Truth is, who knows. But it's a valid insight - and for someone not in any rush, is a great reason to wait and see what happens.
I got one from the last deal: 16:10 screen is very bright, keyboard is better than most but definitely inferior to T14s with less travel and more cramped (about 3/4" smaller). Touchpad is also cramped but it feels well made and 2# is extremely light, feels like a tablet.
A lot of engineers in general seem to prefer Mac over windows (including me). I just find the OS easier and simpler to navigate without as many distractions compared to windows. The seamless experience with other apple devices is also unparalleled
I doubt this very much.
1) A lot of engineering applications simply aren't available for Macs. It's dominated by Windows, then Linux.
2) Too many engineers I know live and die by Excel. Add 1) to the equation and you know where they run their spreadsheets.
3) Most engineers wouldn't tolerate Apple's 'my way or the highway' mentality. Not for work and certainly not for personal use.
Fact is, Macs simply aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks. As someone else here said, I guess it could complement your iPhone, but then that shows how seriously you use your computer.
Is Apple making good computers? Definitely. Would I buy or recommend one? Hell no. Integrated SSDs, glued batteries and crappy keyboards is why I stay away from them from a hardware perspective. And why I love Lenovos. Also, I just don't like MacOS, but others may differ or be indifferent.
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1) A lot of engineering applications simply aren't available for Macs. It's dominated by Windows, then Linux.
2) Too many engineers I know live and die by Excel. Add 1) to the equation and you know where they run their spreadsheets.
3) Most engineers wouldn't tolerate Apple's 'my way or the highway' mentality. Not for work and certainly not for personal use.
Fact is, Macs simply aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks. As someone else here said, I guess it could complement your iPhone, but then that shows how seriously you use your computer.
Is Apple making good computers? Definitely. Would I buy or recommend one? Hell no. Integrated SSDs, glued batteries and crappy keyboards is why I stay away from them from a hardware perspective. And why I love Lenovos. Also, I just don't like MacOS, but others may differ or be indifferent.
Well I'm a software engineer so I definitely got a POV from a coding perspective. However, a lot of these points I disagree with:
1) Excel is available and just as capable on Mac. Microsoft is much better about this then years last.
2) the whole comment about they aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks is ignorant. They have plenty of use cases and are proven for enterprise and personal use, time and time again. Software Engineering, UX/UI Design, students/teachers just to name a few.
Obviously Mac has some issues but they do address them like the keyboard. Yes, customizability is questionable but then again macs are known to have a much higher build quality then most windows computers overall and the price does reflect that.
I'm not going to continue because it's irrelevant to the deal. Obviously, you want/need windows or maybe Linux for this deal. Apple hate is consistent and rarely for good reason in SD comments. There is plenty negative to say about them but most comments are just ignorant bias.
Well I'm a software engineer so I definitely got a POV from a coding perspective. However, a lot of these points I disagree with:
1) Excel is available and just as capable on Mac. Microsoft is much better about this then years last.
2) the whole comment about they aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks is ignorant. They have plenty of use cases and are proven for enterprise and personal use, time and time again. Software Engineering, UX/UI Design, students/teachers just to name a few.
Obviously Mac has some issues but they do address them like the keyboard. Yes, customizability is questionable but then again macs are known to have a much higher build quality then most windows computers overall and the price does reflect that.
I'm not going to continue because it's irrelevant to the deal. Obviously, you want/need windows or maybe Linux for this deal. Apple hate is consistent and rarely for good reason in SD comments. There is plenty negative to say about them but most comments are just ignorant bias.
The build quality may be better than a lot of Windows-based machines but not all. Add the questionable choices Apple makes and it's enough to steer clear of them. For example, they had the butterfly keyboards for FIVE years. FIVE years they had it and people were complaining about them from day one. They finally got rid of it after their head of design left. Crazy. Second, the touchbar is absolutely useless and they keep it. Lenovo tried that on their 2nd Gen X1 Carbon from 2014 and abandoned it in one cycle. Third, Apple takes their profit margins extremely seriously to the point of playing with fire when it comes to fault tolerance. In past machines they've made the LCD panel cable so short that it was causing screen issues. After blaming their customers, Apple relented and extended the warranty but still faced a class action lawsuit. You can see their obsession with margins coming into play by gluing batteries, integrating (very slow) SSDs into the system board, amongst other things. These are very consumer-hostile moves and keep me away.
I use my computer for work (I don't game on it) so garbage moves like these have me running away from Apple and back to Lenovo every time I want to get a new machine. Add the fact that you have to go out of your way to find the technical and business apps you need on a Mac as opposed to being assured that they will be available, updated and supported for Windows makes it an easy choice.
I know software engineers. And, surprisingly, many of them don't seem to know much about the underlying hardware that make up their computers. So, I guess, using a computer like a Mac isn't something they would think twice about. Visit any software firm and they all have shiny new Macs. But I work in hardware engineering and I try to understand what I'm buying and, more importantly, how I can deal with any issues that may arise, even if I'm not paying for it. And Apple lost me a long time ago with their aforementioned decisions. No way would I choose a Macbook considering the innumerable amount of questionable decisions Apple makes when it comes to their machines, all to increase their margins.
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The build quality may be better than a lot of Windows-based machines but not all. Add the questionable choices Apple makes and it's enough to steer clear of them. For example, they had the butterfly keyboards for FIVE years. FIVE years they had it and people were complaining about them from day one. They finally got rid of it after their head of design left. Crazy. Second, the touchbar is absolutely useless and they keep it. Lenovo tried that on their 2nd Gen X1 Carbon from 2014 and abandoned it in one cycle. Third, Apple takes their profit margins extremely seriously to the point of playing with fire when it comes to fault tolerance. In past machines they've made the LCD panel cable so short that it was causing screen issues. After blaming their customers, Apple relented and extended the warranty but still faced a class action lawsuit. You can see their obsession with margins coming into play by gluing batteries, integrating (very slow) SSDs into the system board, amongst other things. These are very consumer-hostile moves and keep me away.
I use my computer for work (I don't game on it) so garbage moves like these have me running away from Apple and back to Lenovo every time I want to get a new machine. Add the fact that you have to go out of your way to find the technical and business apps you need on a Mac as opposed to being assured that they will be available, updated and supported for Windows makes it an easy choice.
I know software engineers. And, surprisingly, many of them don't seem to know much about the underlying hardware that make up their computers. So, I guess, using a computer like a Mac isn't something they would think twice about. Visit any software firm and they all have shiny new Macs. But I work in hardware engineering and I try to understand what I'm buying and, more importantly, how I can deal with any issues that may arise, even if I'm not paying for it. And Apple lost me a long time ago with their aforementioned decisions. No way would I choose a Macbook considering the innumerable amount of questionable decisions Apple makes when it comes to their machines, all to increase their margins.
For what it's worth I have always had a pretty good experience with Apple repairs when needed. Most have been free of charge. I've relied on them for almost 10 years now since the first unibody design and issues have been minor. I was much more upset with the lack of ports vs the butterfly keyboard and touchbar tbh. I'm not a fan of the butterfly keyboard but it hasn't crapped out on me although it seems prone to do so. The touchbar isn't a dealbreaker but pretty gimmicky.
I have heard good things about the Lenovo X series though. These seem to compare well with the Dell XPS and HP Spectre. All seem like solid decisions from feedback I've heard.
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Not sure what all this Mac discussion, none of which is new (haven't we been hearing the arguments for 20 years?), has to do with the ThinkPad…
Snagging an X1 Nano myself; I hate that the X1 Carbon only has 1080p or 2160p, the latter is too high res for 14" (only makes sense if you use 2x scaling). I think the 1440p at 13" is just right.
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1) A lot of engineering applications simply aren't available for Macs. It's dominated by Windows, then Linux.
2) Too many engineers I know live and die by Excel. Add 1) to the equation and you know where they run their spreadsheets.
3) Most engineers wouldn't tolerate Apple's 'my way or the highway' mentality. Not for work and certainly not for personal use.
Fact is, Macs simply aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks. As someone else here said, I guess it could complement your iPhone, but then that shows how seriously you use your computer.
Is Apple making good computers? Definitely. Would I buy or recommend one? Hell no. Integrated SSDs, glued batteries and crappy keyboards is why I stay away from them from a hardware perspective. And why I love Lenovos. Also, I just don't like MacOS, but others may differ or be indifferent.
Different strokes for different folks. I personally work with virtualized machines and can't use the new M1, so I stick to Windows. But for folks with a Final Cut Pro or Logic workflow, or for Xcode devs, there's a place for them. Even as a lifestyle machine, if you've got an iPhone, having a MacBook to go with it is a nice seamless experience.
Fanboyism in tech needs to go extinct. We can have preferences but being all cutthroat about a product's use seems pointless.
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Beta versions don't count for real work where the clients are waiting and blood will flow if you miss deadlines.
M1 simply can't be depended on to deliver minute Intel computers.
1) A lot of engineering applications simply aren't available for Macs. It's dominated by Windows, then Linux.
2) Too many engineers I know live and die by Excel. Add 1) to the equation and you know where they run their spreadsheets.
3) Most engineers wouldn't tolerate Apple's 'my way or the highway' mentality. Not for work and certainly not for personal use.
Fact is, Macs simply aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks. As someone else here said, I guess it could complement your iPhone, but then that shows how seriously you use your computer.
Is Apple making good computers? Definitely. Would I buy or recommend one? Hell no. Integrated SSDs, glued batteries and crappy keyboards is why I stay away from them from a hardware perspective. And why I love Lenovos. Also, I just don't like MacOS, but others may differ or be indifferent.
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" 90-95% of the world can't afford the Mac's value proposition"
1) A lot of engineering applications simply aren't available for Macs. It's dominated by Windows, then Linux.
2) Too many engineers I know live and die by Excel. Add 1) to the equation and you know where they run their spreadsheets.
3) Most engineers wouldn't tolerate Apple's 'my way or the highway' mentality. Not for work and certainly not for personal use.
Fact is, Macs simply aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks. As someone else here said, I guess it could complement your iPhone, but then that shows how seriously you use your computer.
Is Apple making good computers? Definitely. Would I buy or recommend one? Hell no. Integrated SSDs, glued batteries and crappy keyboards is why I stay away from them from a hardware perspective. And why I love Lenovos. Also, I just don't like MacOS, but others may differ or be indifferent.
1) Excel is available and just as capable on Mac. Microsoft is much better about this then years last.
2) the whole comment about they aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks is ignorant. They have plenty of use cases and are proven for enterprise and personal use, time and time again. Software Engineering, UX/UI Design, students/teachers just to name a few.
Obviously Mac has some issues but they do address them like the keyboard. Yes, customizability is questionable but then again macs are known to have a much higher build quality then most windows computers overall and the price does reflect that.
I'm not going to continue because it's irrelevant to the deal. Obviously, you want/need windows or maybe Linux for this deal. Apple hate is consistent and rarely for good reason in SD comments. There is plenty negative to say about them but most comments are just ignorant bias.
" 90-95% of the world can't afford the Mac's value proposition"
1) Excel is available and just as capable on Mac. Microsoft is much better about this then years last.
2) the whole comment about they aren't taken seriously outside of coding and Starbucks is ignorant. They have plenty of use cases and are proven for enterprise and personal use, time and time again. Software Engineering, UX/UI Design, students/teachers just to name a few.
Obviously Mac has some issues but they do address them like the keyboard. Yes, customizability is questionable but then again macs are known to have a much higher build quality then most windows computers overall and the price does reflect that.
I'm not going to continue because it's irrelevant to the deal. Obviously, you want/need windows or maybe Linux for this deal. Apple hate is consistent and rarely for good reason in SD comments. There is plenty negative to say about them but most comments are just ignorant bias.
I use my computer for work (I don't game on it) so garbage moves like these have me running away from Apple and back to Lenovo every time I want to get a new machine. Add the fact that you have to go out of your way to find the technical and business apps you need on a Mac as opposed to being assured that they will be available, updated and supported for Windows makes it an easy choice.
I know software engineers. And, surprisingly, many of them don't seem to know much about the underlying hardware that make up their computers. So, I guess, using a computer like a Mac isn't something they would think twice about. Visit any software firm and they all have shiny new Macs. But I work in hardware engineering and I try to understand what I'm buying and, more importantly, how I can deal with any issues that may arise, even if I'm not paying for it. And Apple lost me a long time ago with their aforementioned decisions. No way would I choose a Macbook considering the innumerable amount of questionable decisions Apple makes when it comes to their machines, all to increase their margins.
I use my computer for work (I don't game on it) so garbage moves like these have me running away from Apple and back to Lenovo every time I want to get a new machine. Add the fact that you have to go out of your way to find the technical and business apps you need on a Mac as opposed to being assured that they will be available, updated and supported for Windows makes it an easy choice.
I know software engineers. And, surprisingly, many of them don't seem to know much about the underlying hardware that make up their computers. So, I guess, using a computer like a Mac isn't something they would think twice about. Visit any software firm and they all have shiny new Macs. But I work in hardware engineering and I try to understand what I'm buying and, more importantly, how I can deal with any issues that may arise, even if I'm not paying for it. And Apple lost me a long time ago with their aforementioned decisions. No way would I choose a Macbook considering the innumerable amount of questionable decisions Apple makes when it comes to their machines, all to increase their margins.
I have heard good things about the Lenovo X series though. These seem to compare well with the Dell XPS and HP Spectre. All seem like solid decisions from feedback I've heard.
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Snagging an X1 Nano myself; I hate that the X1 Carbon only has 1080p or 2160p, the latter is too high res for 14" (only makes sense if you use 2x scaling). I think the 1440p at 13" is just right.
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