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Apr 2, 2021 5:04 PM

Creality Ender 3 MAX $289

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Ender 3 Max for $289 with Coupon code ZP3MAX40F

When I added it to the cart I got a pop up that said I saved $40 and I didn't have to add it manually.

This printer is currently listed for $349 on Amazon.
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Ender 3 Max for $289 with Coupon code ZP3MAX40F

When I added it to the cart I got a pop up that said I saved $40 and I didn't have to add it manually.

This printer is currently listed for $349 on Amazon.

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Apr 2, 2021 6:50 PM
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slickrobertApr 2, 2021 6:50 PM
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I don't have this printer but I would be wary. I have two regular Ender 3's and I've had a lot of issues with the gantry (the horizontal bar with the hotend on it) going off-level as it moves up and down.

This is a common problem due to the Ender's design, which has a single Z-stepper and spindle on the left side. The right side is held up purely by tension, which has to be set juuuust right. If it's not perfect, moving up or down the Z-axis changes the angle of the gantry just slightly, which makes it difficult to achieve good calibration even with an autoleveling kit. It took me a lot of tweaking before I started getting good results.

I'm concerned that increasing the width of the gantry by 50% without any mitigation is going to exacerbate it. But again, I haven't actually tried this printer; maybe they've done something to fix the issue.
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Apr 2, 2021 7:13 PM
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rkdusApr 2, 2021 7:13 PM
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The board is not the same as ender 3 v2. I think it's just ender 3 with bigger hotbed
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Apr 2, 2021 7:34 PM
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GeOpHmAn
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Apr 2, 2021 7:34 PM
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Quote from slickrobert View quoted comment :
I don't have this printer but I would be wary. I have two regular Ender 3's and I've had a lot of issues with the gantry (the horizontal bar with the hotend on it) going off-level as it moves up and down.

This is a common problem due to the Ender's design, which has a single Z-stepper and spindle on the left side. The right side is held up purely by tension, which has to be set juuuust right. If it's not perfect, moving up or down the Z-axis changes the angle of the gantry just slightly, which makes it difficult to achieve good calibration even with an autoleveling kit. It took me a lot of tweaking before I started getting good results.

I'm concerned that increasing the width of the gantry by 50% without any mitigation is going to exacerbate it. But again, I haven't actually tried this printer; maybe they've done something to fix the issue.

CHEP on Youtube has a video he just released about this printer. He received a Beta version a few months ago and he wasn't too impressed. Some of the concerns you mention are addressed and fixed in the final release. I have had an Ender 3 for a couple of years now and absolutely love the thing. I have had little to no issues. I have upgraded quite a few parts, but even before then I was getting good consistent prints.

My favorite aspect of this printer is the online presence. Tons of support out there from fellow internet strangers. r/Ender3
Last edited by GeOpHmAn April 2, 2021 at 12:43 PM.
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Apr 2, 2021 7:39 PM
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GeOpHmAn
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Apr 2, 2021 7:39 PM
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Quote from rkdus View quoted comment :
The board is not the same as ender 3 v2. I think it's just ender 3 with bigger hotbed
It has upgrades that do not come on the Ender 3. It has silent drivers, filament run out sensor, dual cooling fans, upgraded springs and a glass bed. I have probably missed something, CHEP has a very informative video on Youtube, his main complaint is the Z stop isn't adjustable. He swapped out the screws with some shorter ones and added t slot nuts to fix that.
Apr 2, 2021 7:45 PM
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cliquedApr 2, 2021 7:45 PM
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Quote from GeOpHmAn View quoted comment :
CHEP on Youtube has a video he just released about this printer. He received a Beta version a few months ago and he wasn't too impressed. Some of the concerns you mention are addressed and fixed in the final release. I have had an Ender 3 for a couple of years now and absolutely love the thing. I have had little to no issues. I have upgraded quite a few parts, but even before then I was getting good consistent prints.

My favorite aspect of this printer is the online presence. Tons of support out there from fellow internet strangers. r/Ender3
I just saw that video about an hour ago. Completed my order 30 minutes ago 😁

"Creality Ender 3 MAX Better and Cheaper Improved Version"
https://youtu.be/Zw_6aMPN_Os
Apr 3, 2021 2:23 PM
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connordogApr 3, 2021 2:23 PM
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I own and Ender 3 Pro and CR-10 v2. This model looks to be slotted in-between these two models.

While I like the 400mm height-option of the CR-10, I've yet to use. it. I have used the wider 300mm base on the CR-10 quite a few times so the add'l width is welcome.

The placement of the power supply and screen on the Ender 3 Pro, like this version, looks cleaner and takes up less space versus the CR-10's disconnected version. Both are 24v power supply units (PSU).

While I like the compactness of this 'Max' option versus the CR-10 V2, I do appreciate the addition of the 2nd z-axis motor CR-10 V2. I can't say for sure it's a requirement but having 2 z-axis motors on the CR-10 V2 inspires confidence. The CR-10 V2 also has the vertical brace add-ons included.

I think if you're familiar with 3d printing or a beginner willing to tinker with a limited budget, this model will give you options to print bigger. Otherwise, I'd either 1) wait for the CR-10 V2 to drop closer in price (got mine for $350 shipped) or purchase the Ender 3 Pro for ~200 from Microcenter (or similar).
Last edited by connordog April 3, 2021 at 07:52 AM.
Apr 3, 2021 2:52 PM
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connordogApr 3, 2021 2:52 PM
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One more thing to mention...in my opinion the Ender 3 v2 is not an upgrade. In fact, I consider it a downgrade because of the addition of the new graphical user screen as opposed to the older-style lcd. The graphical user screen limits access to upgraded versions of Marlin and its features. No one can guarantee if future enhancements will be compatible with the new screen as well effectively locking the owner of the Ender 3 V2 to what Creality provides and only what Creality provides.

For example, Marlin provides a mesh-leveling feature which, in our experience, negates the needs to purchase hardware add-ons like the BL Touch.
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Apr 3, 2021 4:48 PM
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vd853Apr 3, 2021 4:48 PM
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I have a E3 and E5. I probably won't buy anything more expensive then the cheapest E3. They are not very reliable in the long run. I need to do a lot of regular maintenance and upgrades for them to work correctly.
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Apr 4, 2021 1:10 PM
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BlackseaApr 4, 2021 1:10 PM
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coupon code not working.
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Apr 4, 2021 3:20 PM
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slashy42Apr 4, 2021 3:20 PM
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Quote from connordog View quoted comment :
One more thing to mention...in my opinion the Ender 3 v2 is not an upgrade. In fact, I consider it a downgrade because of the addition of the new graphical user screen as opposed to the older-style lcd. The graphical user screen limits access to upgraded versions of Marlin and its features. No one can guarantee if future enhancements will be compatible with the new screen as well effectively locking the owner of the Ender 3 V2 to what Creality provides and only what Creality provides.

For example, Marlin provides a mesh-leveling feature which, in our experience, negates the needs to purchase hardware add-ons like the BL Touch.
This is not true. I am currently using Firmware from Smith3D that based on the newest stable Marlin build. It provides a lot of nice features. https://smith3d.com/ender-3-v2-bl...ith3d-com/

Additionally, if your willing to pay $10 a year you can get access to the nightly Marlin builds configured for most Creality printers, including the V2. I don't use the service, but if I really wanted the nightly builds I'd consider it. https://marlin.crc.id.au/

Since this is based on open source software you can also compile it from the source yourself. There are probably other options I haven't listed, since this community is huge I'd be surprised if others where not compiling the firmware for their needs and publishing it somewhere. ​
Apr 4, 2021 4:26 PM
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iPandaXApr 4, 2021 4:26 PM
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Coupon is not working, added to cart but cannot use the coupon.
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Apr 5, 2021 6:39 PM
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connordogApr 5, 2021 6:39 PM
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Quote from slashy42 View quoted comment :
This is not true. I am currently using Firmware from Smith3D that based on the newest stable Marlin build. It provides a lot of nice features. https://smith3d.com/ender-3-v2-bl...ith3d-com/

Additionally, if your willing to pay $10 a year you can get access to the nightly Marlin builds configured for most Creality printers, including the V2. I don't use the service, but if I really wanted the nightly builds I'd consider it. https://marlin.crc.id.au/

Since this is based on open source software you can also compile it from the source yourself. There are probably other options I haven't listed, since this community is huge I'd be surprised if others where not compiling the firmware for their needs and publishing it somewhere. ​
While Smith3d does offer a solution, it's not base Marlin... it's a branch. And while 10 dollars is not a lot of money in the US, Marlin costs nothing.

So, maybe I am misunderstood your post but mesh bed leveling in Marlin is a menu item. Smith3D and Chep use Gcode in Cura which requires more hoops to hop through versus the Marlin...the site you provided states...Ender 3 V2 is unable to make "leveling enabled" persistent after reboot. Marlins is persistent, does not require geode in Cura, and is an easily accessible menu item.
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Apr 5, 2021 6:46 PM
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slashy42Apr 5, 2021 6:46 PM
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Quote from connordog View quoted comment :
While Smith3d does offer a solution, it's not base Marlin... it's a branch. And while 10 dollars is not a lot of money in the US, Marlin costs nothing.

So, maybe I am misunderstood your post but mesh bed leveling in Marlin is a menu item. Smith3D and Chep use Gcode in Cura which requires more hoops to hop through versus the Marlin...the site you provided states...Ender 3 V2 is unable to make "leveling enabled" persistent after reboot. Marlins is persistent, does not require geode in Cura, and is an easily accessible menu item.
You stated you are forced to use only creality firmware. I was pointing out that isn't true. Some of them are probably adding more or less features, IDK, I haven't gone down feature list and checked. Just pointing out two options I know of and pointing that there are probably others out there as well.
Apr 5, 2021 10:47 PM
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whiplash707Apr 5, 2021 10:47 PM
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Quote from iPandaX View quoted comment :
Coupon is not working, added to cart but cannot use the coupon.
Yeah i missed it too, just got paid though so have to wait for next time.

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Apr 6, 2021 3:03 AM
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whiplash707Apr 6, 2021 3:03 AM
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Update* deal is live again
I spoke with there csr over messanger and they reactived the coupon code.
Can confirm it works as of right now

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