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Specs:
- AMD Ryzen 7 4800U Processor 1.8GHz 8-Core Processor
- 13.3" WUXGA 1920x1200 IPS 300-nit Display
- 16GB LPDDR4X 4267MHz Memory
- 512GB PCIe Solid State Drive
- 802.11AX (2x2) + Bluetooth 5.1
- Backlit Keyboard + Fingerprint Reader
- Windows 10 Pro
- Ports:
- 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (w/ DisplayPort & Power Delivery)
- 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1
- 1x HDMI 2.0
- 1x Audio Combo Jack
- 4-Cell 56Wh Internal Battery
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Intel's latest gen is manufactured at 10nm (Intel 10nm is about 100 million transistors per mm^2). That's a lot more competitive with TSMC 7nm, but Intel is having problems producing it in quantity, especially for their higher-end (higher power and heat) processors. Their latest high-end processors are still being manufactured at 14nm. Which is just nuts when Apple and probably Nvidia are being manufactured on TSMC 5nm (about 175 million transistors per mm^2 - nearly 5x the density of Intel 14nm).
AMD could've manufactured at 5nm if they were willing to pay more, but it looks like they're content to stay on 7nm for now. I suspect that decision had more to do with keeping Intel around as a competitor so that AMD doesn't have to face anti-trust investigations. That's how far behind Intel is.
But at multicore performance, the AMD 4700U (8 core/8 thread) and 4800U (8 core/16 thread) processors just wipe the floor with Intel's 10nm CPUs (best are 4 core/8 thread). I would only seriously consider the Intel 10nm processors (ice lake and tiger lake) for lower-end laptops competing with the AMD 4500U (6 core/6 thread), maybe the 4600U (6 core/12 thread). For higher performance, it's AMD on TSMC 7nm vs Intel on Intel 14nm, which is no contest. Intel only makes sense there if you don't care about power consumption at all. That might make sense on a desktop, but it automatically eliminates them from consideration if you're buying a performance laptop.
And keep in mind that AMD's new Zen 3 processors are now showing up for mobile... At this point with Intel 7nm (rumored to be around 200 million transistors/mm^2) still 2 years away at best, I think their only chance is to swallow their pride and have TSMC (or maybe Samsung) manufacture some of their processors for them.
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Here's a head-to-head comparison at same RAM clock speeds where a 4500U bests a 1135G7 by about 20% in GTA5.
You could extrapolate that out to the 1165G7 having 20% more execution cores than the 1135G7 at the same clock rate and the 4800U having 33% more execution cores than the 4500U and running at 16.66% faster clocks so this 4800U should win even better against Intel's best mobile.
Another laptop could still beat this with discrete graphics like an MX350 or any mobile GPU, but not at this power efficiency.
I do have an i7/16GB/1TB wintel lappy for a few things, but day to day my M1 macbook gets way more use. Phenomenal battery life, great screen, great keyboard, buttery smooth, no fan.
I do have an i7/16GB/1TB wintel lappy for a few things, but day to day my M1 macbook gets way more use. Phenomenal battery life, great screen, great keyboard, buttery smooth, no fan.
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I was a bit annoyed at how frequently the fan kicked in during setup. This is no longer an issue after the max CPU use was set to 98% while plugged in according to a tip I found on the Lenovo Canada discussion board. It is now running silent almost all the time, and of course, it's very snappy. The keyboard is far superior to my old MBP too. So overall I am happy with the purchase.
https://www.amd.com/system/files/documents/thinkbook-14p-datasheet.pdf
Also, this seems to be the 5800H series instead of the U.
https://www.amd.com/system/files/...asheet.pdf
Also, this seems to be the 5800H series instead of the U.
ThinkBook 14 Gen 3: https://www.lenovo.com/sg/en/lapt...MD000004
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I was a bit annoyed at how frequently the fan kicked in during setup. This is no longer an issue after the max CPU use was set to 98% while plugged in according to a tip I found on the Lenovo Canada discussion board. It is now running silent almost all the time, and of course, it's very snappy. The keyboard is far superior to my old MBP too. So overall I am happy with the purchase.
You could perhaps use a program like prime 95 for the single core and multi core tests...