expiredDetrimental posted May 02, 2021 06:42 AM
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expiredDetrimental posted May 02, 2021 06:42 AM
12TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive
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My 4x 14TB were till in backordered.
That being said, don't you think it's a bit much to just jump to calling someone a liar and a shill because they have a different experience than you, with your 2 whole data points? Just checked the 8tb model on Costco and hit has thousands of reviews with a 4.4 average. Are they all lying shills too?
In fact I have never had any issues with mine. I have 19 (just checked) of the "Backup Plus Hub" (mostly from Costco, all 8tb) and 12 (3x 5tb and the rest are 8tb (STDT8000100)) of the older "Backup Plus" line (had lots of holes in both sides and bottom but no hub on front) and haven't had any of them crap out on me. Granted, I don't use and abuse them, I fill them with stuff and then plug them in to access said data as needed. But a lot are, at minimum 4 years old, and are used regularly, I'm not 100% sure, but I'd have to guess my oldest ones are ~6 years old.
Yes... I have that much Data. also have a few external WD's from 8tb to 14tb.
Honestly, I have had more trouble with the WD line, as I actually lost one of the 8tb's I had (it was an older one). I did lose a 8tb internal that was seagate, but it was 4.5 years old, and I had another internal WD black 5tb that died at 5 years 1 month old.... had replaced it with a Seagate Exos that's about 2 years old now, no problems there.
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I bought 2 x 8 tb from Costco last Thanksgiving , one is already developing problems.
Honestly, I'm sorry you've had a bad experience Lessmeat, but I'm not a liar or a shill. I actually have a spreadsheet to keep track of my drives and sizes, and I keep a search database setup so I can find what's on them when they're not connected in. While I don't have any current pics, I have one that's about 2 years old when I was doing a lot of organization and phasing out some older 2/3/4 TB drives moving stuff to larger drives and had a bunch all sitting together instead of in the case I keep them in. Most of my HUB drives already were storing specific stuff, so they weren't in the 'stack' I've also added probably 7-8 drives since then. Sent the pic to a friend when we were laughing about me being a digital hoarder and still had access to it. I've edited the labels out and attached it to the post.
Back in the early 2010's I had a lot of HD's that failed spectacularly because of how notoriously bad they were (a lot of that is attributed to flooding in Taiwan in 2011 and the terrible QC they had a year or two after that - but I had problems even before then) and I lost a lot of data of a few drives, before then I was a straight WD fan as I'd had a lot of problems with a couple of Seagate's... but at that time everything had problems. Actually several of my smaller Toshiba's were purchased then and even though I don't use them anymore, they're still going whenever I have to pull them out to check a backup.
As for Seagate? I don't really have a particular love for any brand. I did say I had several WD's, also some older Toshiba externals too, 4 and 5tb, and those have lasted a long time some are probably 8 or 9 years old. I have so many Seagate's because of convenience/price, Costco was always offering them on sell, even a few years back. In fact, I've been getting them for the $120 price point off and on for 4 years I believe. 3-4 years ago that was a GREAT price and you could rarely, if ever find WD's at that price. Similarly, the larger HD's I own are WD because it's harder to find larger Seagate's at a good price. The 14TB's I own are 1.5 years old and I bought them for ~200 I believe (A slickdeal I saw and combined with a 15% off through google checkout) I also mentioned I've had BOTH brands of internals fail, usually right after their warranty was up. Though several years ago I did have a WD Black fail at 3 years and got a refurb in its place that lasted several more years.
Shills for either company can ignore.
Are these actually shuckable? Are these actually cmr/pmr?
I follow BackBlaze numbers anytime they come out - I know they are one or two particular drive models generally, but IMO they give a good idea of the general failure of upper end stuff and most of the Seagate numbers hover around 1%... plus the fact that they're buying them (and a LOT of them) in the first point means that they believe they're worth the price.
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My 4x 14TB were till in backordered.
Personally I haven't shucked any myself. I'm still running WD reds in my NAS, as it only backs up really important stuff and that doesn't change a lot they've been running for 7 years with no problems. I have been considering updating, but I'm really not sure what to buy and I have obviously have a LOT of data if I want to go with big NAS (see earlier posts) a few of those are backups for important stuff - but a large percentage of those drives do not have backups. Was why I originally posted, because I wasn't aware those HUB drives had a bad rep.
I bought 2 x 8 tb from Costco last Thanksgiving , one is already developing problems.
Seagates are so stupid bad and disgusting. Stop lying online to deceive people.
Seagates were trash and still are trash.
Your perspective is anecdotal and is the opposite for me, had 2 WD drives fail and never a Seagate. I only buy Seagate now.
14TB is Barracuda Pro/Iron Wolf/Exos
16TB is all Exos
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In fact I have never had any issues with mine. I have 19 (just checked) of the "Backup Plus Hub" (mostly from Costco, all 8tb) and 12 (3x 5tb and the rest are 8tb (STDT8000100)) of the older "Backup Plus" line (had lots of holes in both sides and bottom but no hub on front) and haven't had any of them crap out on me. Granted, I don't use and abuse them, I fill them with stuff and then plug them in to access said data as needed. But a lot are, at minimum 4 years old, and are used regularly, I'm not 100% sure, but I'd have to guess my oldest ones are ~6 years old.
Yes... I have that much Data. also have a few external WD's from 8tb to 14tb.
Honestly, I have had more trouble with the WD line, as I actually lost one of the 8tb's I had (it was an older one). I did lose a 8tb internal that was seagate, but it was 4.5 years old, and I had another internal WD black 5tb that died at 5 years 1 month old.... had replaced it with a Seagate Exos that's about 2 years old now, no problems there.
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Every Seagate is literally trash. NAS lines are no exception. They all fail early and prematurely. 6% on the exos line. Whoever still advocates Seagate is either deliberately stupid or evil, or both.
Now shills, down vote this. XD hate truth please.
Oh boy why do I even bother.
BUY SEAGATES THEY ARE THE BEST. LOL
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