Acer – Predator Triton 300 SE 14" 144Hz Laptop – Intel 11th Gen i7 – NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 16GB DDR4

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05-12-2021 at 02:48 AM #2

wow i wasn't even aware they made a 14" laptop!! i thought my only option was the rog!

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05-12-2021 at 06:42 AM #3

Just a word of warning so people don't get confused by Intel's marketing shenanigans.

This is the CPU that caused a lot of controversy because Intel decided to slap on an i7 onto a 4 core processor for their 11th gen. Don't expect it to push out the nearly same performance(especially multicore) to something like the 10th gen 10750h which is a 6 core processor. Probably closer to a i5 than an i7 and might bottleneck the GPU as a result.

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05-12-2021 at 08:25 AM #4

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Just a word of warning so people don't get confused by Intel's marketing shenanigans.

This is the CPU that caused a lot of controversy because Intel decided to slap on an i7 onto a 4 core processor for their 11th gen. Don't expect it to push out the nearly same performance(especially multicore) to something like the 10th gen 10750h which is a 6 core processor. Probably closer to a i5 than an i7 and might bottleneck the GPU as a result.

I was hitting CPU limit on FPS gaming with 6 cores i7 before. This is a not a good idea for future proof gaming. I'd recommend a hard pass on this machine for gaming.

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05-12-2021 at 09:12 AM #5

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I was hitting CPU limit on FPS gaming with 6 cores i7 before. This is a not a good idea for future proof gaming. I'd recommend a hard pass on this machine for gaming.

It is not even a good idea for today's gaming. Multiple reviewers like Hardware Canucks, Hardware Unboxed, Notebookcheck, have reviewed Asus Dash 15 with same CPU and a 85W TDP RTX 3070 and found out that despite Dash 15 pushing 60W continuously to that "supposed 35W TDP 4-Core CPu designed for Thin & Light Gaming Laptops", it was bottlenecking even that low-powered GPU heavily, causing it to perform poorly that a older RTX 2070 Max-Q in Razer Blade 15.
Now Dash 15 is a full sized 15.6" Laptop and it has lot of cooling headroom and was able to push 60W constantly in Turbo Mode, just to the CPU and still bottlenecking the CPU. This one, is a 14" Laptop and won't be able to push that much for sure...imagine how much that's going to throttle the GPU.

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05-12-2021 at 10:54 AM #6

Can someone help me understand the role of TDP in determining GPU performance? Does higher TDP mean better?

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05-12-2021 at 10:56 AM #7

A 4 core lap heater…for a high price.

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05-12-2021 at 11:03 AM #8

Thumbs up from me. This laptop and the Asus G14 are targeted at people that need ultra portability and a decent video card. If you don't care about that combo then it's not going to be a good deal for you with it's weaker 4 core processor.

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05-12-2021 at 11:16 AM #9

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Can someone help me understand the role of TDP in determining GPU performance? Does higher TDP mean better?

For laptop GPUs higher TDP means the GPU is allowed to use more power (and as a byproduct create more heat) for higher performance. Manufacturers will limit TDP so that the laptop doesn't get too hot or noisy. Thinner laptops are a good example of this as they have more limited cooling solutions and they can't handle a lot of heat so manufacturers will go with lower TDP chips.

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05-12-2021 at 02:23 PM #10

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Thumbs up from me. This laptop and the Asus G14 are targeted at people that need ultra portability and a decent video card. If you don't care about that combo then it's not going to be a good deal for you with it's weaker 4 core processor.

I don't think you quite understand, portable or not, this build is not right. It's not matched right for efficiency. The 6 core i7 would limit me to 90s FPS on Warzone with a 2060. The CPU was the limitation. This has a 144hz screen, to what end? It's not going to be doing much 144hz Now we have a 3060 and the processor is nerfed, what's the point? 4 cores in 2021 is a terrible purchase, this needs to go on a big sale and even then, why bother? Vote with your wallet, leave this alone.

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05-12-2021 at 05:07 PM #11

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I don't think you quite understand, portable or not, this build is not right. It's not matched right for efficiency. The 6 core i7 would limit me to 90s FPS on Warzone with a 2060. The CPU was the limitation. This has a 144hz screen, to what end? It's not going to be doing much 144hz Now we have a 3060 and the processor is nerfed, what's the point? 4 cores in 2021 is a terrible purchase, this needs to go on a big sale and even then, why bother? Vote with your wallet, leave this alone.

Doesn't this CPU slot in above the 1165G7? The few reviews I saw seemed like this was running AAA games anywhere between 60 to 80 fps because they drew on the GPU, not the CPU. Would appreciate any further thoughts as I'm close to pulling trigger!

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05-12-2021 at 05:40 PM #12

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I don't think you quite understand, portable or not, this build is not right. It's not matched right for efficiency. The 6 core i7 would limit me to 90s FPS on Warzone with a 2060. The CPU was the limitation. This has a 144hz screen, to what end? It's not going to be doing much 144hz Now we have a 3060 and the processor is nerfed, what's the point? 4 cores in 2021 is a terrible purchase, this needs to go on a big sale and even then, why bother? Vote with your wallet, leave this alone

The build is okay. This gets higher fps in gaming than the 2020 Asus G14 that has a 8 core cpu and 2060 gpu. The 144hz screen is fine as well considering faster GPUs aren't getting 144+ fps on newer games with all the settings turned up. As for Warzone, 4 core 8 thread processors do fine: https://www.dsogaming.com/wp-cont...324_hd.png It's not "future proof" but people don't buy ultra portables for that reason.

As I said in my earlier post:

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...This laptop and the Asus G14 are targeted at people that need ultra portability and a decent video card. If you don't care about that combo then it's not going to be a good deal for you with it's weaker 4 core processor.

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05-12-2021 at 06:05 PM #13

It was a good deal until I saw the i7-11th. TRASH

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05-12-2021 at 06:08 PM #14

Basically, we're still ignoring Intel until they get good. Could be a while.

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05-12-2021 at 06:12 PM #15

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Just a word of warning so people don't get confused by Intel's marketing shenanigans.

This is the CPU that caused a lot of controversy because Intel decided to slap on an i7 onto a 4 core processor for their 11th gen. Don't expect it to push out the nearly same performance(especially multicore) to something like the 10th gen 10750h which is a 6 core processor. Probably closer to a i5 than an i7 and might bottleneck the GPU as a result.

Mobile processors have never followed the same conventions as desktops. For man yyears mobile i7 could be dual core with HT or quad core with HT. Most games are limited by GPU not CPU. Some difference but a 3060 is very unlikely to be cpu bottlenecked. The only way that would happen normally is if the laptop is not power managed correctly or running on battery. This is what I do for a living--owned my own computer company for 26 years and building gaming systems is the biggest part of my business, especially the last year. IMHO I would never own a laptop for gaming. We see so many of them in our shop 2-3 years down the road with motherboards croaked from constant high heat. Never should be on a lap--always on a cooling pad and plugged in for max performance and life. Future proof is kind of an oxymoron is computing. Our company mantra is spend less and upgrade more frequently. For the record this combination in mobile should net 95-100 FPS at high settings and over 140 at low to medium with no cpu bottleneck. Considering supply constraints and current pricing and availability. I'd say its a good deal if you want a gaming laptop.

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