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Generally it's always better to use your Chase UR points elsewhere. These points do not expire, and you can transfer them to a huge list of airlines or hotels when you travel in the future. Depending on which airline you transfer to, they're worth about 1.6 cents/point, or if you transfer them to Hyatt, it's easily 2 cents/point. If you use them on business/first class international flights, the value is even higher.
I understand that during the pandemic people needed to cash in points to pay bills, but redeeming on Apple products isn't a good value. Unless you don't plan to travel ever, it's always better to hold on to these points so you can maximize them in the future, IMO.
Maybe I'm not understanding, can you explain? From my point of view if I spend $100 on apple gift cards at a grocery store using CSR I earn 100 points, which is equal to $1. If I then pay myself back for the gift card purchase I would spend 6,666 points to regain the $100. So my net gain is $1 (100 points), vs just spending 6,666 points directly via apple redemption offer? Am I missing something else?
I think the idea is many times you can get apple gift cards at grocery stores or elsewhere with some kind of discount (like fuel points, etc.).
Maybe I'm not understanding, can you explain? From my point of view if I spend $100 on apple gift cards at a grocery store using CSR I earn 100 points, which is equal to $1. If I then pay myself back for the gift card purchase I would spend 6,666 points to regain the $100. So my net gain is $1 (100 points), vs just spending 6,666 points directly via apple redemption offer? Am I missing something else?
Firstly, let me just say, that redeeming via pay yourself back or using for the apple directly, is at best a value of 1.5 cpp. This is decent, but not the best. As others have said, you can of course get better value via hyatt, or transferring to airline miles and redeeming for business/first class flights if you can manage it.
In this particular situation (using points to buy apple stuff directly vs buying gift cards and paying yourself back), I personally feel it is better to do the pay yourself back for a couple reasons.
1. You can use the gift card value later, like on the next iPhone that comes out on September. You don't have to buy only what's available now. This is the main benefit to me.
2. Yes, $1 in extra points (per $100 spend) isn't that much, but it is something. Multiply by 10 you get an additional 1000 points, which would be worth $15 with csr pay your self back. It's just a little bonus.
Exactly.
It's better to buy apple gift cards from a supermarket, and pay yourself back at the same rate.
Except then you lose the credit card benefits like Extended Warranty… in my opinion it's much better to use this offer and redeem directly for the Apple products.
Well. I'm not sure if you'll be getting the extended warranty and other benefits when using points...
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Except then you lose the credit card benefits like Extended Warranty… in my opinion it's much better to use this offer and redeem directly for the Apple products.
Well. I'm not sure if you'll be getting the extended warranty and other benefits when using points...
I am sure. Per Chase's terms:
"Extends the time period of the U.S. manufacturer's warranty by one additional year, on eligible warranties of three years or less when item is purchased with an eligible Chase card or with rewards earned on an eligible Chase card"
Exactly.
It's better to buy apple gift cards from a supermarket, and pay yourself back at the same rate.
Terrible strategy. You lose the extended warranty that you get from buying Apple with points redemption (just like you do by buying with the credit card) for the marginal savings in buying gift cards first.
Terrible strategy. You lose the extended warranty that you get from buying Apple with points redemption (just like you do by buying with the credit card) for the marginal savings in buying gift cards first.
Marginal savings? I get at least 15% savings? I wouldn't call that marginal.
Generally it's always better to use your Chase UR points elsewhere. These points do not expire, and you can transfer them to a huge list of airlines or hotels when you travel in the future. Depending on which airline you transfer to, they're worth about 1.6 cents/point, or if you transfer them to Hyatt, it's easily 2 cents/point. If you use them on business/first class international flights, the value is even higher.
I understand that during the pandemic people needed to cash in points to pay bills, but redeeming on Apple products isn't a good value. Unless you don't plan to travel ever, it's always better to hold on to these points so you can maximize them in the future, IMO.
While I completely agree on transfer partners being the way to maximize UR value (and I have gotten some extremely high - 3-5 cents/point Hyatt redemption valuations in the past year...), the reality is that most people either don't care to maximize beyond the 'default' 1.5cpp or don't have travel/vacation priorities where that adds significant value.
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Except then you lose the credit card benefits like Extended Warranty… in my opinion it's much better to use this offer and redeem directly for the Apple products.
For some devices and circumstances, this is correct. But, don't discount the drawbacks of this offer.
1. Turnaround time: T&C's note 3-4 weeks shipping and handling time. IIRC from the last time this deal was around, people noted that as being pretty accurate. If someone needs (or 'needs') their device now,
2. Selection: If someone simply wants to get an iPad or some Airpods, this isn't really an issue. If instead they are looking for a Macbook Air, they better be happy with the 8gb RAM/base GPU option/256 or 512gb SDD, b/c that is the only set of configs that are offered.
3. Discount eligibility/Refurb store. Many people are eligible for things like the Apple education discount (and it doesn't seem like Apple even really checks eligibility for online orders...) or work discounts, which can be taken advantage of when paying via gift card. Depending on the device and how much one values the CC warranty, they might come out ahead doing this - for the iPad air for example, the math points to doing the Gift Cards > PYB over this deal. Same with the Apple refurbished site. Particularly if one is looking for a device released in the past 6 months-2 years, that is typically the sweet spot of getting value for an Apple purchase.
1. Turnaround time: T&C's note 3-4 weeks shipping and handling time. IIRC from the last time this deal was around, people noted that as being pretty accurate. If someone needs (or 'needs') their device now,
I was considering returning my iPad Pro and using this but this is the killer; it took 7 weeks last time to get an iPhone.
Firstly, let me just say, that redeeming via pay yourself back or using for the apple directly, is at best a value of 1.5 cpp. This is decent, but not the best. As others have said, you can of course get better value via hyatt, or transferring to airline miles and redeeming for business/first class flights if you can manage it.
In this particular situation (using points to buy apple stuff directly vs buying gift cards and paying yourself back), I personally feel it is better to do the pay yourself back for a couple reasons.
1. You can use the gift card value later, like on the next iPhone that comes out on September. You don't have to buy only what's available now. This is the main benefit to me.
2. Yes, $1 in extra points (per $100 spend) isn't that much, but it is something. Multiply by 10 you get an additional 1000 points, which would be worth $15 with csr pay your self back. It's just a little bonus.
I don't feel that you are getting a better value by redeeming for business/first class flights unless you would actually buy a first class flight if you were paying out of pocket. Otherwise, the real value of the flight is what you would have paid in cash for a regular ticket.
Is that like when someone says no offense and then offends the person. Just because you say the onus is on me doesn't make the onus on me. There are numerous ways throughout the year to get 15%+ discount on Apple gift cards....one way right now is to use the Amex offer for happy gift cards and use the happy gift card at Bed Bath & Beyond to buy an Apple gift card.
I don't feel that you are getting a better value by redeeming for business/first class flights unless you would actually buy a first class flight if you were paying out of pocket. Otherwise, the real value of the flight is what you would have paid in cash for a regular ticket.
The somewhat-counter argument is that it is possible to value the business/first class ticket over the coach class ticket enough that the difference in points between a coach and biz redemption makes sense, even if you wouldn't pay the theoretical crazy high cash price for the premium ticket.
For example, pre-COVID, my wife and I flew from the west coast to Europe on a biz class redemption. 57.5k AA miles each, instead of 30k each for a coach ticket. Did I have a problem redeeming an extra 27.5k miles/each for that flight? No. Would I have paid the ~ $2k/each cash price of a biz class ticket instead of ~ $400 in coach? No. Would I have paid the cash value of that 27.5k miles difference? At 1cpp, without a doubt. At 1.5cpp, the same. At 2cpp, as a special occasion yes.
You don't have to consider the pure theoretical CPP value of a premium class ticket as accurate to still give those redemptions some extra weight. Especially if you would pay extra for some kind of upgraded seating anyways.
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I understand that during the pandemic people needed to cash in points to pay bills, but redeeming on Apple products isn't a good value. Unless you don't plan to travel ever, it's always better to hold on to these points so you can maximize them in the future, IMO.
Firstly, let me just say, that redeeming via pay yourself back or using for the apple directly, is at best a value of 1.5 cpp. This is decent, but not the best. As others have said, you can of course get better value via hyatt, or transferring to airline miles and redeeming for business/first class flights if you can manage it.
In this particular situation (using points to buy apple stuff directly vs buying gift cards and paying yourself back), I personally feel it is better to do the pay yourself back for a couple reasons.
1. You can use the gift card value later, like on the next iPhone that comes out on September. You don't have to buy only what's available now. This is the main benefit to me.
2. Yes, $1 in extra points (per $100 spend) isn't that much, but it is something. Multiply by 10 you get an additional 1000 points, which would be worth $15 with csr pay your self back. It's just a little bonus.
It's better to buy apple gift cards from a supermarket, and pay yourself back at the same rate.
"Extends the time period of the U.S. manufacturer's warranty by one additional year, on eligible warranties of three years or less when item is purchased with an eligible Chase card or with rewards earned on an eligible Chase card"
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It's better to buy apple gift cards from a supermarket, and pay yourself back at the same rate.
I understand that during the pandemic people needed to cash in points to pay bills, but redeeming on Apple products isn't a good value. Unless you don't plan to travel ever, it's always better to hold on to these points so you can maximize them in the future, IMO.
1. Turnaround time: T&C's note 3-4 weeks shipping and handling time. IIRC from the last time this deal was around, people noted that as being pretty accurate. If someone needs (or 'needs') their device now,
2. Selection: If someone simply wants to get an iPad or some Airpods, this isn't really an issue. If instead they are looking for a Macbook Air, they better be happy with the 8gb RAM/base GPU option/256 or 512gb SDD, b/c that is the only set of configs that are offered.
3. Discount eligibility/Refurb store. Many people are eligible for things like the Apple education discount (and it doesn't seem like Apple even really checks eligibility for online orders...) or work discounts, which can be taken advantage of when paying via gift card. Depending on the device and how much one values the CC warranty, they might come out ahead doing this - for the iPad air for example, the math points to doing the Gift Cards > PYB over this deal. Same with the Apple refurbished site. Particularly if one is looking for a device released in the past 6 months-2 years, that is typically the sweet spot of getting value for an Apple purchase.
In this particular situation (using points to buy apple stuff directly vs buying gift cards and paying yourself back), I personally feel it is better to do the pay yourself back for a couple reasons.
1. You can use the gift card value later, like on the next iPhone that comes out on September. You don't have to buy only what's available now. This is the main benefit to me.
2. Yes, $1 in extra points (per $100 spend) isn't that much, but it is something. Multiply by 10 you get an additional 1000 points, which would be worth $15 with csr pay your self back. It's just a little bonus.
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For example, pre-COVID, my wife and I flew from the west coast to Europe on a biz class redemption. 57.5k AA miles each, instead of 30k each for a coach ticket. Did I have a problem redeeming an extra 27.5k miles/each for that flight? No. Would I have paid the ~ $2k/each cash price of a biz class ticket instead of ~ $400 in coach? No. Would I have paid the cash value of that 27.5k miles difference? At 1cpp, without a doubt. At 1.5cpp, the same. At 2cpp, as a special occasion yes.
You don't have to consider the pure theoretical CPP value of a premium class ticket as accurate to still give those redemptions some extra weight. Especially if you would pay extra for some kind of upgraded seating anyways.