expirediconian | Staff posted Jun 04, 2021 09:10 PM
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expirediconian | Staff posted Jun 04, 2021 09:10 PM
Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-280FA Atmos Floorstanding Speakers (Cherry, Pair)
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Before buying the Klipsch set, I did some research and found a lot of people saying they were bright and fatiguing on the ears. This was absolutely true until I re-ran audyssey. That toned down the highs a lot.
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They have to try to appease a HUGE seating area then they try to compensate with playing it very loud!
I personally think it's a big contributor why people associate loud with good.
The other issue is there are different levels in quality with "Atmos" and within them there is proper setup to get the best performance.
People automatically think "Atmos" equals better, that's just not the case.
Take for instance these built in enabled modules, very tricky for a proper setup in the average home and even then how good its works varies widely.
In the end it's actually on the lower in quality with "Atmos".
Another issue is most have never heard a proper setup so their perspective is skewed.
The great thing is as long as the person listening thinks it works for them is all that really matters.
edit: I just double checked and the base of the rp-8000f speakers is all metal. I thought it was wood or plastic which is why I was worried it might chip or break.
I think having the separate Atmos modules would be better than having them built in, as they would be more versatile for placement, but..to each their own.
They are just another "atmos" alternative called height "atmos" speakers.
With this alternative it's just not the "right ceiling" but also reflection point, seating & quality of the speaker that also play a major role on performance.
Dolby originally came up with these "alternatives" for people that couldn't/wouldn't follow their in ceiling(reference) recommendation.
They quickly learned that they were pigeon-holing themselves to a niche market, so now it's just these great options of getting "atmos" sound.
Makes sense, that's why you can come on here and say "These reflective speakers would be 10x better" and others would say there don't do much and just "forego" it.
What hasn't change are the proper setup recommendations. I'm not sure where the basis of your opinion is coming from but I will tell you from first hand experience following those recommendations is vital for best performance.
When done properly in ceiling object based setup is the best quality by far!
It is not easy or cheap to setup in the average home so most people have never actually heard a proper setup.
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They are just another "atmos" alternative called height "atmos" speakers.
With this alternative it's just not the "right ceiling" but also reflection point, seating & quality of the speaker that also play a major role on performance.
Dolby originally came up with these "alternatives" for people that couldn't/wouldn't follow their in ceiling(reference) recommendation.
They quickly learned that they were pigeon-holing themselves to a niche market, so now it's just these great options of getting "atmos" sound.
Makes sense, that's why you can come on here and say "These reflective speakers would be 10x better" and others would say there don't do much and just "forego" it.
What hasn't change are the proper setup recommendations. I'm not sure where the basis of your opinion is coming from but I will tell you from first hand experience following those recommendations is vital for best performance.
When done properly in ceiling object based setup is the best quality by far!
It is not easy or cheap to setup in the average home so most people have never actually heard a proper setup.
https://www.dolby.com/about/suppo...up-guides/
https://www.dolby.com/about/suppo...up-guides/
Again you misspoke they can't be "LR speakers with Atmos going through them", they all get discreet channel information to each of them, not shared.
Again you misspoke they can't be "LR speakers with Atmos going through them", they all get discreet channel information to each of them, not shared.
I was technically wrong, although for the average/mainstream buyer, there are almost no scenarios where it is recommended to put them there, hence it was bad advice unless one was going all in on a 6 Atmos speaker setup, and at that point I think most should go all in-ceiling, since a minimum of two have to be anyway.
I haven't used it myself but had it bookmarked for a possible center channel stand I may need to fashion for the 504c I just got.
I was technically wrong, although for the average/mainstream buyer, there are almost no scenarios where it is recommended to put them there, hence it was bad advice unless one was going all in on a 6 Atmos speaker setup, and at that point I think most should go all in-ceiling, since a minimum of two have to be anyway.
There is no "need" or "minimum" to follow but the concept, in very rudimentary terms a speaker per channel with the sound hitting your seating position(s).
That's why SVS has their Elevation speakers, heck even Klipsch's has their RP-500SA's that work as these modules OR Elevation speaker, they even call it that.
Yamaha even labels one of their speaker connections "height"!
https://www.svsound.com/products/prime-elevation
https://www.klipsch.com/products/...nd-speaker
I'm not sure why you think that sound bouncing off the ceiling can be "atmos" but mounting a speaker toward the top of the ceiling pointing at your ceiling position isn't, they are coming at you from the same angle.
As a matter of fact Elevation speakers option are more like all the other speakers, direct radiating pointing at you.
So in theory that should be "better' than bouncing it off the ceiling.
There are many options, which works best for you depends on MANY things but coming in here and saying one is "10x better" is just incorrect.
There is no "need" or "minimum" to follow but the concept, in very rudimentary terms a speaker per channel with the sound hitting your seating position(s).
That's why SVS has their Elevation speakers, heck even Klipsch's has their RP-500SA's that work as these modules OR Elevation speaker, they even call it that.
Yamaha even labels one of their speaker connections "height"!
https://www.svsound.com/products/prime-elevation
https://www.klipsch.com/products/...nd-speaker
I'm not sure why you think that sound bouncing off the ceiling can be "atmos" but mounting a speaker toward the top of the ceiling pointing at your ceiling position isn't, they are coming at you from the same angle.
As a matter of fact Elevation speakers option are more like all the other speakers, direct radiating pointing at you.
So in theory that should be "better' than bouncing it off the ceiling.
There are many options, which works best for you depends on MANY things but coming in here and saying one is "10x better" is just incorrect.
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