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TI-84 Plus CE (Color Edition) is on sale this week for $99.99 at Target. This calculator is available from Target in 4 colors:
Blue:
https://www.target.com/p/texas-in...nk=sametab
Red:
https://www.target.com/p/texas-in...nk=sametab
White:
https://www.target.com/p/texas-in...nk=sametab
Black:
https://www.target.com/p/texas-instruments-84-ce-graphing-calculator-black/-/A-82545755#lnk=sametabโ [target.com]
Please note that TI has stopped making the graphing calculator in pink. You can still find a few of those on amazon or ebay but for a premium price.
These calculators are required in every high school in America, even though we all know they are overpriced and not more useful than a $10 calculator in everyday life.
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Is the era of the $100+ graphing calculator coming to an end? [thehustle.co]
Porting isn't really that big of a problem, and the math operations that thing does are so simple I'm not even sure if there's need to optimize anything unless they use totally outdated processors from like the 80s.
Sounds to me more about everything else (monopoly, behind the scene stuff, etc) than technological reasons to me.
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The current ones bear almost no resemblance to the ones you bought 20 years ago. In fact the current ones bear no resemblance to ones I used in engineering school 7 years ago.
You also don't understand how fast processor architectures change.
You also don't recognize that TI has been releasing new calcs every 5 years for the past 20 years.
News flash, you full color TI calc of today is not based upon the 68000 processor that was used 20 years ago.
So they want to make money on their intellectual property? You can do better for $10? Go for it. They also have no competition except HP and Casio, and traditionally TI's user experience has been MUCH better. That's why it's so widely adopted.
So stop complaining about what the market is willing to bear and that they have had a successful business model for 20 years. You are just silly.
In any case, you refuted my argument with zero additional information other than saying "no I don't think so from my armchair expert location"
But, yes, go with the monopoly evil corporation theory OR, go get a raspberry pi, add an LCD, put python on it, make it work on batteries and compete at 1/4 the cost....
My daughter requires a TI Nspire CX CAS Graphing
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Wow. When the hell did they remove the ability to curse?
I think I can build a web version one for a weekend project by reading its instruction.
For a physical one, we should be able to build one within 20 dollars... if the TI is not going to sue me some copyright issues....
For the most part people say the better is great but there are still a few who say it won't take a charge after a year.
The battery does last a long time, and it was never a problem for me, but I was using it in college and not as a middle schooler.
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Thanks,
-Guru
IMHO, it's is mostly a gimmick. It is neither convenient nor practical to do general-purpose coding on the calculator. Still, the geek in me cannot resist...
Out of 12 math teachers in our school, 11 of them tell the students if you get a casio you are on your own learning it. I am the only teacher in the school who knows how to use the Casio, and even kids in my class have to come on their own time if they have questions on the Casio. Do you realistically think a teacher is going to spend 10 minutes trying to figure out the calculator of the 1 kid who has a different one than the other 25 kids?
My daughter requires a TI Nspire CX CAS Graphing
1) Yes, there are free Apps that have the same features or more. There are also TI-84 emulators.
2) Limiting factor is what is Allowed. Classes and standardized tests generally don't allow smart-phones. ACT test do not allow calculators with CAS. SAT test allow calculators with CAS.
3) Does the student NEED all those fancy features? I've been studying the SAT questions, and you don't need anything fancy. And for classes, any old calculator can probably work fine. So, you don't really NEED graphing calculators. The difference is SPEED and ACCURACY. I think I can calculate a simple quadratic equation faster than inputting the numbers into the calculator. But for long complex equations, the calculator will do it a lot faster. (For calculus, it's probably TOO FAST, which means the class might not allow CAS or high-end calculators.) And if a class requires a CAS graphing calculator, the homework/tests would probably take too long to do long-hand.
4) 4 year investment or just for 1 class? 4 years of Math is generally required for high school. That doesn't mean all the math classes would need anything fancy. But for AP Calculus, it would definitely help. So, I see it as a 4 year investment. After that, I think the calculator would still have pretty good resale value. If you're getting it for college student, that could be 4 year investment as well. If you're getting it to pass 1 class, yeah, just get a used one and then resell.
5) HP, CASIO, or TI? Depends on the teacher. The teachers in my kid's school are only trained in TI-84s, so I went with TI.
6) Which TI model? I couldn't decide, so I bought both the TI-84 Plus CE and TI-Nspire CX II CAS used (but like-new condition). And just FYI, the HP Prime has better reviews than the TI Nspire.
7) Rechargeable Battery: The key is to recharge only when needed. Sure, you can technically recharge it anytime, but it reduces the battery life. Also, the calculator drains the battery quickly when it is in Test mode.
8) Games. The TI-84 Plus OS 5.5.0 and lower supports assembly and C language. I haven't tried it, but you can probably download all games on Gameboy into the calculator. There are also programs that you can buy for various functions that makes the calculator more powerful. Once you upgrade the OS to 5.5.1 or higher, assembly and C language are disabled. Someone mentioned that the new calculator from Target is TI-84 Plus CE Python. That won't be able to run assembly and C language.
9) Python. From what I've read online, Python is slowwww compared to C. I don't know what you would use it for....especially if you have smartphones.
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