ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i5 10400F - GeForce RTX 3060 - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB SSD - Newegg.com - $1199.99

Why does it say "Brand May Vary" on the GPU ?
• GPU: GeForce RTX 3060 12GB (Brand May Vary)

You guys realize GPU prices are tanking and stock is replenishing, right? Don't pay absurd amounts for cheapo GPUs like this one.

This seems pretty legit, is this a good long term investment for someone who wants to transition to PC gaming?

Why does it say "Brand May Vary" on the GPU ?
• GPU: GeForce RTX 3060 12GB (Brand May Vary)

This seems pretty legit, is this a good long term investment for someone who wants to transition to PC gaming?

Usual reminder you are massively overpaying for a graphics card in a build like this due to the market. Built this system on pcpartpicker without the GPU and it's about a $500-$550 system at these specs minus the 3060. So, you're paying a healthy $650-$700 for a 3060 which is nuts.

Unless you just want to overpay because of the GPU market, wait until GPU prices fall, they inevitably will, and systems like this will be under $1k easily.

man... the graphic card shortage is so BS. games rarely uses faster CPU, if you build anything in the last 5 years, your system minus graphic card is probably good for the next 5 years. i would much rather just buy the GPU for 300 dollars, than the entire system for 1k.

Really depends what you're playing, at what res and settings.


If you're 4k gaming with a relatively high end card that can handle that- yeah, even older than 5 year CPUs won't make much difference.

If you're gaming at 1080p, and even somewhat at 1440p, a LOT of games are CPU bound and it can make a big difference.


https://www.tomshardware.com/feat...benchmarks

They use a 3080, then they test a suite of 9 games at 1080, 1440, 4k...with a range of 7 CPUs including 9th/10th gen intels, Ryzen 3600 and 3900x AMDs, and even a 2013 i7-4770k Haswell....(normalizing everything else like memory speeds as much as possible)



At 1080p medium going from the 10th gen i9 down to a 9th gen cost you 10 fps, the i9 10th gen down to a 3900x Ryzen cost you almost 40 fps... 10 more fps gone dropping to the 3600, 12 more to the i3....and almost another 40 gone with the Haswell CPU.

At 1080p Ultra the i9s were about the same- but you still lost 15 fps dropping to the 3900x, another 7 to the 3600, and you're down 30 fps from the i9 to the i3 (and 30 more to the Haswell).

Those are 70% and 47% FPS drops from top to bottom CPU...but even sticking to relatively "current" stuff you saw notable differences.



At 1440p medium the ryzens "only" give up ~15-25 fps, the i3 about 30, and the Haswell about 70 fps compared to the i9.

1440p ultra the ryzens only lose about 10-12 fps, the i3 only 3 more, then 18 more for Haswel.


But by the time you get to 4k MEDIUM, EVERYTHING is within about 5 fps of each other-- except Haswell, which is now just 15 fps behind.

Lastly at 4k Ultra? Everything is within 3 fps, except Haswell... which is only 6 fps slower- a mere 8% difference from the 4th gen i7 to the 9th/10th gen i9.



That review was especially interesting to me, since my "old" desktop gaming rig was an i7-4770k with an Aorus Xtreme OCed 1080ti I was using for 4k gaming with pretty respectable results on a 4k/60Hz OLED--- now whole setup is my wifes 4k gaming machine.

The way how both parties run this country nothing is going down price-wise. So stop telling people wait until the GPU prices to fall. It's not going to happen for a very long time unfortunately.

so here my conclusion after reading it, for games that shows dramatic difference in frame rate, even the low 4770 can provide over 60 fps in ALL cases, for games that actually need higher performance, the difference between 8 year old process and new process is about 5 fps, if even that.