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Adorama has
Rel Acoustics HT/1508 Predator Subwoofer for
$999 (discount will show in cart).
Shipping is free.
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Includes:- HT/1508 Predator Subwoofer (Black Vinyl)
- AC Power Adapter
- Users Manual
Features:- Use a single HT/1205 in rooms 100-400 sq.' or a pair for rooms larger than 400 sq.'
- HT-Air Wireless compatible
- Front-firing 15" long-throw CarbonGlas driver
- 800 watt Class D amplifier
- Low Level stereo RCA or .1/LFE RCA inputs
- Low Level stereo RCA or .1/LFE RCA outputs for daisy chains
- -6dB @ 21Hz in room frequency response
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Video on YouTube from Sparechange who reviews an HSU VTF15 and compares it to a REL: https://youtu.be/2HcMM7d5BkQ
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I will be looking only at ported subs going forward
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The Rel brand name impresses people.
If you want quality bass, get at least three subwoofers and integrate them as shown here:
https://mehlau.net/audio/multisub_geddes/
As for which subwoofers, I'm partial to Rhythmik (however they spell it) or Seaton Sound if you go high end.
What it will do is widen the dispersement of what you are already getting, doesn't improve the "hz" boom.
If you want a sealed sub for HT duty in this price range I would suggest looking at SB3000.
IMO in my comparison I felt like the SB gave more real impact but the REL shined better with music.
This is not to say the other is "bad" in any way, the differences are minor.
To be honest at this level the main deciding factor is preference in sound because they are all good quality subs.
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Even you went from "most people want that 20-30hz boom", now to "more subs does give you more output".
IMO those are two different factors.
With "output" you can recommend that 2-3 subs in a "small room" "would be great".
With hz you don't really need that many subs in a small room IMO.
The great thing is this is all subjective and everyone's preference will override all this.
Even you went from "most people want that 20-30hz boom", now to "more subs does give you more output".
IMO those are two different factors.
With "output" you can recommend that 2-3 subs in a "small room" "would be great".
With hz you don't really need that many subs in a small room IMO.
The great thing is this is all subjective and everyone's preference will override all this.
This is such pointless back-and -forth banter which is how every subwoofer deal thread ends up.
Nobody can buy 10 different subs and trial them out in their space, so subjectivity is out of the equation.
People here want bang for their buck. I have not heard these subs personally, but from raving reviews, I'd say this is a screaming deal. I personally own 3 klipsch r-115sw and am considering this upgrade.
Nobody can buy 10 different subs and trial them out in their space, so subjectivity is out of the equation.
People here want bang for their buck. I have not heard these subs personally, but from raving reviews, I'd say this is a screaming deal. I personally own 3 klipsch r-115sw and am considering this upgrade.
And generally speaking, the best bang for your buck for home theater is with ported subs.
I get that but that's not what you said IMO.
My point was to clarify that "20-30hz boom" is different than "output in the 20-30hz region" at least IMO.
I would agree that getting 20-30hz in a small room should be a "non issue" for this sub.
IMO if the "output" from this sub in a small room is to low(less) then IMO there is something wrong.
Even you just said "in a small room, you'll have enough room gain for that to be a non issue".
As I mentioned this gets intermixed constantly but Hz and output aren't really the same.
If you do intermix them then yes you may believe adding another sub or two will improve what you already hear.
We will just have to agree to disagree and just move on.
And generally speaking, the best bang for your buck for home theater is with ported subs.
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Meanwhile, most small rooms (biggest dimension less than ~18 feet) will get meaningful room gain below 30hz. This complements the natural roll off of a sealed sub and allows them to stay flat in their response. (Output which you'd have to eq out of a ported sub to remain flat.)
Those are all facts of subwoofer design. No opinion.