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HP Laptop: 15.6" 1080p, Ryzen 5 5500U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Vega 7

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Walmart has HP Laptop 15.6" (15-ef2127wm) on sale for $399. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member Suryasis for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • 15.6" 1080p FHD IPS 250nits Display, 45% NTSC
  • Ryzen 5 5500U 6 Cores 12 Threads (2.1GHz Base / 4GHz Boost) Processor
  • 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4-3200 Memory (2 Slots, 64GB Max)
  • 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • AMD Vega 7 Graphics at 1900 MHz
  • 802.11ac Wi-Fi 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.0
  • Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C (Data Only)
    • 1x HDMI 1.4b
    • 1x SD Card Reader
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
  • 3 Cell 41 WHr Battery
  • 3.75 lbs

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Written by megakimcheelove | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This offer represents an 11% savings off the list price
  • About this product:
    • 1-year limited hardware warranty
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Walmart has HP Laptop 15.6" (15-ef2127wm) on sale for $399. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member Suryasis for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • 15.6" 1080p FHD IPS 250nits Display, 45% NTSC
  • Ryzen 5 5500U 6 Cores 12 Threads (2.1GHz Base / 4GHz Boost) Processor
  • 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4-3200 Memory (2 Slots, 64GB Max)
  • 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
  • AMD Vega 7 Graphics at 1900 MHz
  • 802.11ac Wi-Fi 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.0
  • Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C (Data Only)
    • 1x HDMI 1.4b
    • 1x SD Card Reader
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
  • 3 Cell 41 WHr Battery
  • 3.75 lbs

Editor's Notes

Written by megakimcheelove | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This offer represents an 11% savings off the list price
  • About this product:
    • 1-year limited hardware warranty
  • About this store:
    • Walmart return policy here

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Jul 26, 2021 7:20 PM
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realculJul 26, 2021 7:20 PM
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any experience with the walmart protection plan ? I plan to buy with Citi Costco card that gives 1year extra warranty.. is the walmart plan good to get on top of that ?
Jul 26, 2021 7:38 PM
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ikjadoonJul 26, 2021 7:38 PM
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Quote from puneet_pal :
Is this not better for 399?
https://www.costco.com/hp-14%22-l...46492.html [costco.com]
This comes with 2 year warranty.
People are a little confused about the CPUs. The Intel CPU is both a 4C/8T and is 23% faster for most consumer (read:1T) workloads versus this deal's AMD CPU. See the notably higher single-threaded performance, which is what most people use on $399 laptops.

i3-1125G4: 4C/8T, 3.7 GHz boost (Tiger Lake) | 1157 points 1T / 3826 points nT [geekbench.com]
Ryzen 5 5500U: 6C/12T, 4.0 GHz boost (Zen2, not Zen3) | 939 points 1T / 4402 points nT [geekbench.com]

Intel i3 CPUs have come a very long way. In 1T performance (most CPU workloads), the Intel i3 CPU is ~23% faster.

What's probably misleading is AMD pulled an Intel with the naming; the 5500U is actually a rebadged older Zen2 CPU from early 2020 versus the latest-gen Zen3 APUs from early 2021.

5800U = Zen3
5700U = Zen2
5600U = Zen3
5500U = Zen2
5300U = Zen2


https://i.imgur.com/1ZZvkvs.png

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Otherwise, the systems are pretty darn close. I'd say size & weight are probably what differentiate them, though I'm always a fan of longer warranties on laptops these days: repair costs are frankly ridiculous.
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Jul 26, 2021 7:40 PM
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mustyluridJul 26, 2021 7:40 PM
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Quote from Suryasis :
I've given the details in the post. It doesn't have backlit keyboard or fingerprint reader. I think for college, you should get something slightly better than this. HP pavilion series or Dell inspiron 5000 series should be your target. They cost slightly higher for same configuration but come with better build quality, ports and features like charging using Type-C.
If you look at the pics on Walmart site the keyboard has the backlight keyboard sign
Jul 26, 2021 7:42 PM
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realculJul 26, 2021 7:42 PM
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Quote from ikjadoon :
People are a little confused about the CPUs. The Intel CPU is both a 4C/8T and is 23% faster for most consumer (read:1T) workloads versus this deal's AMD CPU. See the notably higher single-threaded performance, which is what most people use on $399 laptops.

i3-1125G4: 4C/8T, 3.7 GHz boost (Tiger Lake) | 1157 points 1T / 3826 points nT [geekbench.com]
Ryzen 5 5500U: 6C/12T, 4.0 GHz boost (Zen2, not Zen3) | 939 points 1T / 4402 points nT [geekbench.com]

Intel i3 CPUs have come a very long way. In 1T performance (most CPU workloads), the Intel i3 CPU is ~23% faster.

What's probably misleading is AMD pulled an Intel with the naming; the 5500U is actually a rebadged older Zen2 CPU from early 2020 versus the latest-gen Zen3 APUs from early 2021.

5800U = Zen3
5700U = Zen2
5600U = Zen3
5500U = Zen2
5300U = Zen2


https://i.imgur.com/1ZZvkvs.png

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Otherwise, the systems are pretty darn close. I'd say size & weight are probably what differentiate them, though I'm always a fan of longer warranties on laptops these days: repair costs are frankly ridiculous.
curious how does the passmark rating of these CPUs shows 5500 much higher power
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/comp...3830vs3995

Jul 26, 2021 7:50 PM
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SniperSheepJul 26, 2021 7:50 PM
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Quote from realcul :
curious how does the passmark rating of these CPUs shows 5500 much higher power
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/comp...3830vs3995
Passmark score is based on multi-threaded workloads, however they also include single-thread scores for reference.
Passmark single thread score for i3-1125G4 is 2539, for Ryzen 5 5500U it's 2495.
Not 23% difference like Geekbench, more like 2% difference.
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Quote from realcul :
curious how does the passmark rating of these CPUs shows 5500 much higher power
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/comp...3830vs3995
That guy tried to judge the whole performance of those two processors by GeekBench score alone which it literally the worst way of comparing. GeekBench typically favor Intel CPUs andut runs for a very short time, resulting CPU with higher turbo boost which it can retain for extremely short time, getting higher score. In rrality, 5500ubis on average 12% slower in single threaded but over 40% more powerful in any multi threaed tasks. Also, you will have a far snappier system overall. It even beats i5-1135G7 and i7-1165G7 in all muti threaed workloads. Plus the iGPU performance is better than the UHD Graphics in i3-1125G4. Remember, this i3 doesn't have IRIS XE graphics but a UHD iGPU which is slightly faster than age old UHD 620 and a lot slower than Vega 7 in 5500u. Check an actual review below to see how this cpu performing https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E14-G3-AMD-Laptop-Review-Affordable-Business-Notebook-with-Ryzen-Power.551070.0.html
Last edited by Suryasis July 26, 2021 at 12:53 PM.
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Jul 26, 2021 7:57 PM
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gatotacoJul 26, 2021 7:57 PM
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Quote from Suryasis :
Have a closer eye on Dell Inspiron 15 5515 laptop which you'll find around 500 bucks in many deals with exact same hardware but better build quality, backlit keyboard, Wi-Fi 6, fingerprint reader and bigger battery. Also, the Type-C port on that can support data, display out and charging.
Do these regularly go on deals? I don't see any in the history and retail is $900.

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Jul 26, 2021 7:58 PM
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ikjadoonJul 26, 2021 7:58 PM
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Quote from realcul :
curious how does the passmark rating of these CPUs shows 5500 much higher power
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/comp...3830vs3995 [cpubenchmark.net]
A good question. I think a few reasons:
  1. I'd imagine PassMark's total score is relying on multi-threaded performance, as they break out 1T performance.
  2. But: PassMark 1T only shows the Intel leading by 2%, instead of 23%. I wonder if PassMark is a much longer test, so both CPUs hit 100C -> throttled? At that point, AMD should win with its hands tied behind its back.
  3. Maybe it's a different balance of plugged-in (AC) vs battery (DC) between their two averages.
  4. The Intel CPUs do run hotter; you'll have cooler & comfortable laps with the 5500U, I'd say, because the Intel CPUs ramp up the watts very aggressively.
Once plugged in, the AMD CPUs run away with it, but they somehow drop off once unplugged, even on Best Performance mode. From PCMark's testing overview [pcworld.com],

https://images.idgesg.net/images/...2-orig.jpg
https://images.idgesg.net/images/...2-orig.jpg

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They're both solid, if not great, CPUs for the price. $399 for this kind of performance is special. I'd more meant to note the i3 is not as big a sand trap as it used to be, versus Zen2 CPUs.
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Jul 26, 2021 8:08 PM
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ikjadoonJul 26, 2021 8:08 PM
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Quote from Suryasis :
That guy tried to judge the whole performance of those two processors by GeekBench score alone which it literally the worst way of comparing. GeekBench typically favor Intel CPUs andut runs for a very short time, resulting CPU with higher turbo boost which it can retain for extremely short time, getting higher score. In rrality, 5500ubis on average 12% slower in single threaded but over 40% more powerful in any multi threaed tasks. Also, you will have a far snappier system overall. It even beats i5-1135G7 and i7-1165G7 in all muti threaed workloads. Plus the iGPU performance is better than the UHD Graphics in i3-1125G4. Remember, this i3 doesn't have IRIS XE graphics but a UHD iGPU which is slightly faster than age old UHD 620 and a lot slower than Vega 7 in 5500u. Check an actual review below to see how this cpu performing
What a ridiculous amount of disinformation. Sigh..

How often do people actually run their CPUs to throttle, e.g., 100C? It's an asinine measurement. It's like comparing a Toyota Camry vs a Honda Accord at a drag strip, waiting until their engines overheat. "OK, which is faster now?!"

Nobody uses $399 laptops like that.

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Snappiness is almost entirely judged by short bursts of 1T performance, not multi-threaded performance.

Every single CPU benchmark shows the i3 is a faster 1T CPU.

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Unfortunately, as soon as you unplug the AMD CPU, it loses a vast amount of its multi-thread performance, which you seem to wholly ignore.

It's been show again and again and again, especially for these 5000 series APUs.

Tested: How bad is Ryzen 5000 battery performance? | PCWorld [pcworld.com]


Some AMD laptops reduce system performance for better battery life, but is that OK? | Windows Central [windowscentral.com]

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The iGPU differences: sure, if you're buying a $399 laptop for games, the AMD iGPU is noticeably faster than the Intel iGPU, but that's a silly recommendation in the end. You should probably save a few more $$$ to get a proper dGPU. Make it an AMD CPU; it doesn't matter.

Any dGPU is absolutely worth the extra $100 to $200.
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Jul 26, 2021 8:09 PM
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helpme7089Jul 26, 2021 8:09 PM
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This may be a stupid question but does this have an ethernet port?
Jul 26, 2021 8:14 PM
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ikjadoonJul 26, 2021 8:14 PM
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Quote from helpme7089 :
This may be a stupid question but does this have an ethernet port?
Not a stupid question: some of the lower-end laptops still come with Ethernet ports.

This laptop does not. There are USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet adapters, though, which I've found pretty reliable. Unless you specifically wanted a Gigabit port for more intense networking or WoL etc. I do know the external ones do drain the battery a bit more, but for me, if I'm plugged into Ethernet, I'm also usually plugged into AC power, too.
Jul 26, 2021 8:23 PM
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cubybear09Jul 26, 2021 8:23 PM
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Quote from energyx :
Nope. Different model and retailers.
Which one is better? I'm not a computer guy but I did buy the old one and it's not shipping for another month.
Jul 26, 2021 8:28 PM
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NoviceOldManJul 26, 2021 8:28 PM
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Just about to start my remote job and am in dire need of a new laptop for the gig. Nothing special but just need to be able to comfortably access the back end of the site I will be working for, answering emails and then maybe streaming stuff on YouTube or the like so that I have background noise.

This the one for me?
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Jul 26, 2021 8:28 PM
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Quote from owiseone :
The lack of information/specs. on Walmart's website drives me nuts. We are looking for a new laptop for our son who is heading off to college in a couple weeks. We are looking for something pretty specific and Walmart makes it tough when they don't list all the details.
touchscreen, backlit keyboard, etc.
Someone else already responded about what this one has, so I'll just add that you should look into when/if your state has a Tax Free Weekend as it could save you some money. Mine comes up the first weekend in August. It applies to items that would be considered back-to-school, and includes computers. A few years ago we needed a new laptop around tax-free time, so I waited, found a sale, and saved a good bit on sales tax.

Also, you might want to shop at the Dell website itself. You can get full spec details like if there's a touchscreen or backlit keyboard, and purchase an extended warranty (which sometimes is also on sale). We always get one with on-site service that includes accidental damage. We used to get 4-year warranties, but the last time we purchased the 2-year full warranty was on sale cheap so we just got that and already had to use it for an accident my husband had tripping on the cord. Do a search for Dell codes as well, check your credit cards to see if they have cashback for shopping from Dell (i've gotten $100 back a couple of times from Amex that way), and check cashback shopping portals like Be Frugal or Top Cash Back as they sometimes offer a nice return.
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Jul 26, 2021 8:30 PM
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sftongJul 26, 2021 8:30 PM
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Anyone can comment on the performance between this deal and Walmart Lenovo deal at $50 more? I see that this HP deal has a longer battery life 3-cell 41 WHr, versus Lenovo Ideapad 3 of 35 WHr from Lenovo site, which is a factor in my kid's high school time as he would not have a charger. Thanks

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo.../773741305

I mean, I can get the specs of individual hardware components, but then, the hidden motherboards is really a big unknown. My past experience with Acer made me shun it, as it would match it's competitors with those well advertised hardware but then as a laptop it was much slower.
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