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I'm not sure where they get "three hours of runtime" the included chart says 37 minutes at 100W (which is more than the 600VA?), but if you actually look at the APC site 37 minutes is at 50W, it's actually 15 min at 100W (52/23 min respectively for the 600VA).
It also appears that the battery is not user-replaceable on this model. Not knocking that the price/value isn't pretty good, but things to keep in mind.
I bought a dozen of these for the office. They would simply not work and would break down in less than a year. I ended up having a few PCs get screwed up when we had power outages. (Frequent problem for us due to our neighbors in the office park.)
As an aside I thought these were the APC units designed for networking equipment. If you need these to be a backup for your computer I would really double check your specs. The wattage is under 300. Granted tech has come a long way at being power efficient, but I doubt any PC ships with a smaller power supply then 300 watts unless it's a mini or small form factor home theater type pc. Even then this seems to be the unit to avoid.
they are....these are mainly designed for low draw electronics like routers, switches, modems, smart hubs, etc. i bought these to put one in the media enclosure in our master closet which houses all smart hubs as well as router and switch. other one will go in the garage wall mounted to backup the fios ont. one could run a pc on it if desperate but prob will not last very long if it can handle the load at all.
I'm not sure where they get "three hours of runtime" the included chart says 37 minutes at 100W (which is more than the 600VA?), but if you actually look at the APC site 37 minutes is at 50W, it's actually 15 min at 100W (52/23 min respectively for the 600VA).
It also appears that the battery is not user-replaceable on this model. Not knocking that the price/value isn't pretty good, but things to keep in mind.
This is definitely a no buy then if the battery isn't replaceable. These things tend to go on sale when the battery is about to go
We replace batteries on these regularly as well as on APC. Triplite, and Cyberpower units.
These are no more difficult or dangerous (LOL seriously?) than any other UPS. i.e. you can always plug in the battery backwards if you want to. Yeah, you will see a green circuit board near the battery and no you shouldn't work on these plugged in or poking at the electronics. But, they are no more complex or risky.
HOWEVER these have a slightly non-standard lead acid battery (I think they were 12V 3.5 4 or 5AH) which will run about $30-$40 vs the standard 12V 7AH batteries that most 1000VAish units take which run $20 ea (usually needing a pair of them) so take that for what it's worth.
The ones we do have deployed seem to be quite reliable as compared to the tower units we have which seem to have a 10-20% / yr failure rate (fail not battery going bad).
its 12v 4.5a battery easily replaceable. $16 on amazon.
Oh I get what you are saying now. Yeah that's nuts. I really think the one I had was a cyberpower rebranded one. The alarm was no wear near hurting your ears even right next to it and the alarm would stop once the electricity was back. No need to unplug to stop it, that sounds super annoying and a terrible design. Funny since I thought APC was top dog for UPS's.
Yes, it was a pain. I have been afraid to try another UPS because of that experience.
Yeah, I was thinking about getting something like this since my old big UPS bit the dust and I only really used it to keep the internet running during the rare power outage in my area. Since removing the UPS my electricity bill has gone done a bit since the trickle charge maintaining it is gone. I ended up just opting for this
You can probably get it cheaper once it shows up on Direct Tools Outlet or goes clearance at Home Depot, but if you are not in the Ryobi tool system you can add two 4AH batteries and charger for a $100 total https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../315424283[homedepot.com]
It looks like that deal sold out online, but if you find a store with the inverter and batteries it will still work until August 1st.
Regardless I think the inverter with Lithium tool batteries is the way to go for your modem/router. Battery is easily replaceable, they don't lose their charge as quickly over long periods of time, and that saves you some $ on your energy bill. You can also use the batteries in your tools. If your internet connection is mission critical the UPS is better, but that short runtime is going to make you need to find a solution in an hour or so anyway when it dies not to mention the higher up front cost for each minute of power and the constant draw added to your meter.
I have Ryobi tools and really like this as a secondary backup (since I'm in hurricane prone area). However, this inverter is Home Depot exclusive and quite pricey for what it is.
I don't have a 40V battery, but I did find this at direct tools outlet:
I bought an APC 600 in 2013 and the battery died last week after using it for 7+ years. Bought another 650 to replace it. The alarms are pretty loud but its worth to know in the middle of the night that you need to power down the NAS.
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I had a different model years ago. The problem I had was the only way to turn off the "audible alarm" was to cut power to the APC. So, the thing you bought to prevent you losing your PC power forced you to shut down to kill the alarm. All the while with a 110 decibel klaxon breaking your eardrums. The best part was in Philly, we rarely lose power. When we do it is usually back on in seconds lately, minutes years ago. So the APC should have allowed you to completely ignore it. The worst though was the alarm would go off even if you did not lose power but had a voltage variation in the line. That happens a LOT more often. I ended up just throwing the thing out in frustration. Not sure if any of the newer models have any kind of controls for the audible alarm.
Totally agree with this alarm frustration. It usually happens at 3am too. I have some newer ones that look like this one, with bigger replaceable batteries (900 and 650 models), and will allow you to turn off the alarm with a single click to the power button. I certainly can't speak for this model so double check with the manual online.
I have tried to use the PC software in the past to set them up to disable the alarm. I thought this worked, but I also remember a late night episode when the alarm was going off, and I connected my laptop to the UPC to turn off the alarm, but as soon as I hooked up the laptop, it shut down because you could not put the software in manage only state. The software always shut down the PC when the UPC was on battery mode and I couldn't get the alarm turned off fast enough before the shutdown started. So I smashed the power button and hard shut down all my equipment and went back to bed.
It seems that APC took an extra decade to figure out that we could use their products to keep our DVRs and routers powered up. I remember calling them about this and they said that their UPS where not designed for anything but a PC and it was basically tough s*** that I didn't like the alarm going off because I was using their product in an unauthorized manner. Their customer service was crap.
And it is basically unbelievable that they switched to non-replaceable batteries. They sell replacement batteries for 2-3x the cost of generics. Maybe people stopped buying their overpriced replacements.
Totally agree with this alarm frustration. It usually happens at 3am too. I have some newer ones that look like this one, with bigger replaceable batteries (900 and 650 models), and will allow you to turn off the alarm with a single click to the power button. I certainly can't speak for this model so double check with the manual online.
I have tried to use the PC software in the past to set them up to disable the alarm. I thought this worked, but I also remember a late night episode when the alarm was going off, and I connected my laptop to the UPC to turn off the alarm, but as soon as I hooked up the laptop, it shut down because you could not put the software in manage only state. The software always shut down the PC when the UPC was on battery mode and I couldn't get the alarm turned off fast enough before the shutdown started. So I smashed the power button and hard shut down all my equipment and went back to bed.
It seems that APC took an extra decade to figure out that we could use their products to keep our DVRs and routers powered up. I remember calling them about this and they said that their UPS where not designed for anything but a PC and it was basically tough s*** that I didn't like the alarm going off because I was using their product in an unauthorized manner. Their customer service was crap.
And it is basically unbelievable that they switched to non-replaceable batteries. They sell replacement batteries for 2-3x the cost of generics. Maybe people stopped buying their overpriced replacements.
If you're having problems with the alarm, and you didn't care about waiting warranty, I wonder if you could literally just stab out the speaker...
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It also appears that the battery is not user-replaceable on this model. Not knocking that the price/value isn't pretty good, but things to keep in mind.
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It also appears that the battery is not user-replaceable on this model. Not knocking that the price/value isn't pretty good, but things to keep in mind.
These are no more difficult or dangerous (LOL seriously?) than any other UPS. i.e. you can always plug in the battery backwards if you want to. Yeah, you will see a green circuit board near the battery and no you shouldn't work on these plugged in or poking at the electronics. But, they are no more complex or risky.
HOWEVER these have a slightly non-standard lead acid battery (I think they were 12V 3.5 4 or 5AH) which will run about $30-$40 vs the standard 12V 7AH batteries that most 1000VAish units take which run $20 ea (usually needing a pair of them) so take that for what it's worth.
The ones we do have deployed seem to be quite reliable as compared to the tower units we have which seem to have a 10-20% / yr failure rate (fail not battery going bad).
https://youtu.be/CsRTYQmFYF4?t=4
https://www.amazon.com/Mighty-Max...B079ZCJYP
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../308460871 [homedepot.com]
You can probably get it cheaper once it shows up on Direct Tools Outlet or goes clearance at Home Depot, but if you are not in the Ryobi tool system you can add two 4AH batteries and charger for a $100 total https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI.../315424283 [homedepot.com]
It looks like that deal sold out online, but if you find a store with the inverter and batteries it will still work until August 1st.
Regardless I think the inverter with Lithium tool batteries is the way to go for your modem/router. Battery is easily replaceable, they don't lose their charge as quickly over long periods of time, and that saves you some $ on your energy bill. You can also use the batteries in your tools. If your internet connection is mission critical the UPS is better, but that short runtime is going to make you need to find a solution in an hour or so anyway when it dies not to mention the higher up front cost for each minute of power and the constant draw added to your meter.
I don't have a 40V battery, but I did find this at direct tools outlet:
https://www.directtools
Pure Sine Wave too! No idea how much the battery cost though. Probably pricey.
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I have tried to use the PC software in the past to set them up to disable the alarm. I thought this worked, but I also remember a late night episode when the alarm was going off, and I connected my laptop to the UPC to turn off the alarm, but as soon as I hooked up the laptop, it shut down because you could not put the software in manage only state. The software always shut down the PC when the UPC was on battery mode and I couldn't get the alarm turned off fast enough before the shutdown started. So I smashed the power button and hard shut down all my equipment and went back to bed.
It seems that APC took an extra decade to figure out that we could use their products to keep our DVRs and routers powered up. I remember calling them about this and they said that their UPS where not designed for anything but a PC and it was basically tough s*** that I didn't like the alarm going off because I was using their product in an unauthorized manner. Their customer service was crap.
And it is basically unbelievable that they switched to non-replaceable batteries. They sell replacement batteries for 2-3x the cost of generics. Maybe people stopped buying their overpriced replacements.
I have tried to use the PC software in the past to set them up to disable the alarm. I thought this worked, but I also remember a late night episode when the alarm was going off, and I connected my laptop to the UPC to turn off the alarm, but as soon as I hooked up the laptop, it shut down because you could not put the software in manage only state. The software always shut down the PC when the UPC was on battery mode and I couldn't get the alarm turned off fast enough before the shutdown started. So I smashed the power button and hard shut down all my equipment and went back to bed.
It seems that APC took an extra decade to figure out that we could use their products to keep our DVRs and routers powered up. I remember calling them about this and they said that their UPS where not designed for anything but a PC and it was basically tough s*** that I didn't like the alarm going off because I was using their product in an unauthorized manner. Their customer service was crap.
And it is basically unbelievable that they switched to non-replaceable batteries. They sell replacement batteries for 2-3x the cost of generics. Maybe people stopped buying their overpriced replacements.
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