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- Ryzen 9 5900HX 3.3 GHz (8C/16T, 4.6 GHz Boost, 20MB Cache)
- 2 x SODIMM DDR4 Slot (64GB Max)
- 1x M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 3 Slot
- 2x 2.5" SATA 3.0 6 Gbps Bay
- 1x M.2 2230 with Intel AX200 Wi-Fi 6 + BT 5.0
- Ports:
- 5x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
- 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C
- 2x HDMI 2.0 (4k@60Hz)
- 2x DislayPort (4k@60Hz)
- 2x Line Out
- 1x RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet
- 1x Clear CMOS
- Power Adapter DC 19V / 6.3A
- 1x HDMI Cable
- 1x USB Cable
- 1x Mounting Bracket
- 1x Computer Stand
Editor's Notes
Written by slickdewmaster | Staff- Deal Expert Suryasis recommends that you watch Review Video posted below for deciding whether to go with various Ram + Solid State Drive option.
- Review: Head on over to TechTablet for their In-Depth review of this PC.
- Warranty: Includes 12-Month Warranty which starts at date of purchase (details).
- Minisforum Return Policy: Undamaged products may be returned within 7-Days (details). -slickdewmaster
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Minisforum.com has Minisforum EliteMini HX90 Mini PC Barebone Pre-Order on sale for $649. Shipping is free.
Thanks community member Suryasis for sharing this deal
Specs:
Thanks community member Suryasis for sharing this deal
Specs:
- Ryzen 9 5900HX 3.3 GHz (8C/16T, 4.6 GHz Boost, 20MB Cache)
- 2 x SODIMM DDR4 Slot (64GB Max)
- 1x M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 3 Slot
- 2x 2.5" SATA 3.0 6 Gbps Bay
- 1x M.2 2230 with Intel AX200 Wi-Fi 6 + BT 5.0
- Ports:
- 5x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
- 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C
- 2x HDMI 2.0 (4k@60Hz)
- 2x DislayPort (4k@60Hz)
- 2x Line Out
- 1x RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet
- 1x Clear CMOS
- Power Adapter DC 19V / 6.3A
- 1x HDMI Cable
- 1x USB Cable
- 1x Mounting Bracket
- 1x Computer Stand
Editor's Notes
Written by slickdewmaster | Staff- Deal Expert Suryasis recommends that you watch Review Video posted below for deciding whether to go with various Ram + Solid State Drive option.
- Review: Head on over to TechTablet for their In-Depth review of this PC.
- Warranty: Includes 12-Month Warranty which starts at date of purchase (details).
- Minisforum Return Policy: Undamaged products may be returned within 7-Days (details). -slickdewmaster
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The 16GB Kit comes with two Single Rank 8GB modules (Ram chips only one side of the stick) which reduces the performance by certain degree as Ryzen Processors benefits from dual rank memory.
My recommendation will be buying the barebone and then get your SSD and Ram. They're charging extra $150 for 16GB Ram + 256GB SSD configuration which you can buy yourself. 256GB NVMe SSD can be found as cheap as $30-$40 if you look for the deals and 16GB kit will cost $60-$70.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHpBsPx
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I don't need to prove anything to you. You are looking at things from a very small viewpoint. There are people out there doing real work on regular computers in the business space. I know what I do day in and day out with Excel and it will definitely bog down my two year old office PC with an i7. This same problem happens to most everyone in my department as well. It's not just me.
I'll tell you what; you BUY this machine and run your [non-existent] spreadsheet sort function on each of the two and do a simple video of it. If you show this outperforming your "i7" system (which really means nothing since i7 is just a family and they have CPUs going all the way back to nearly 15 years ago) and I'll BUY it for you. That's even without you qualifying what "i7 system" that you have. I'm going to guess you'll never do anything of the sort because you suspect I'm right, but even if you did I'm further willing to bet that you're going to march up some old laptop with 4GB of RAM and a 4600RPM hard drive.
I built myself a mATX x570 system with a 3900x, 128GB of not so fast ram, 2gb sabrent x3 nvme, 512gb OS sata ssd... and it's massive. It's very overkill for my lab and I realize now that I'd much rather have a small device with a bit less power if it meant getting rid of this large system. I'm seriously considering getting this little box, moving the SSD's over, getting 64GB of ddr4, and the selling what's left of the old system.
I'm especially curious about the thin-min parts and building a tiny system with a 5700G. The only thing really holding me back from that as an option is that the only boards I'm seeing have 1Gb ethernet ports and this little box has 2.5Gb. 1Gb feels like it might be a bottleneck in the future.
This is the typical argument method of those lacking common sense and pragmatism. You people love to argue specific versus general. That is a practice of both the ignorant and the deluded.
This is the typical argument method of those lacking common sense and pragmatism. You people love to argue specific versus general. That is a practice of both the ignorant and the deluded.
1. System is paging. I'm assuming you mean we are running out of memory. No.
2. The CPU is perfect for this type of Excel work. Just because you can't utilize it or think unnecessary because of your ignorance is your own fault.
3. There is little to negate your previous comment other than you don't know WTF you're talking about that a large complex excel file can be done in 30s. This is pure BS talking, You seriously don't know WTF you're talking about. And it's fcking clear you don't work on such Excel reports.
4. Sorting is NOT the only thing done in Excel. At some point in a large file functions like vlookup becomes resources hogs. This is where you can switch to nested functions.
5. This system is awkward and lack balance. Again, WTF are you talking about here. What is this awkward and lack of balance thing you're referring to in reference to Excel reports. Educate us.
6. Refresh rate. I'm assuming you believe the large complex Excel reports would do better with a higher end GPU so it can refresh the screen quicker. See #4 and many other amazing things Excel can do. Now, to be fair if I would to histogram 4-5 years worth of data on a chart then yes it may slow down a bit.
7. What I'm doing and what thousands of other companies are doing using Excel to report out is normal. Most companies do not have the database solution to gather the data. And of those that do with MRP systems they lack of modules and functions to output a suitable report. This SOLUTION, as pointed out by another member here, is not ideal for many, many companies. As such Excel and Access! So yea, it's not 1 in a fcking million. You don't know WTF you're talking about due to your lack of experience in a multitude of industries.
8. Who the Fck said anything about using this system as an enterprise work machine? Are you fcking retarded.
9. We're the ones working with large, complex Excel files to be ABLE to state as such. You are the one assuming all this PURE BS. That last statement of yours is about you and only you.
So there you go, from your simplistic, ignorant first comment that somehow you assumed you were very detail, to my response to your more absurd ramblings.
Lastly, please go the fck away and NEVER respond to me ever again. I will do my part, Thank Jesus fcking God's anus.
I'll tell you what; you BUY this machine and run your [non-existent] spreadsheet sort function on each of the two and do a simple video of it. If you show this outperforming your "i7" system (which really means nothing since i7 is just a family and they have CPUs going all the way back to nearly 15 years ago) and I'll BUY it for you. That's even without you qualifying what "i7 system" that you have. I'm going to guess you'll never do anything of the sort because you suspect I'm right, but even if you did I'm further willing to bet that you're going to march up some old laptop with 4GB of RAM and a 4600RPM hard drive.
This is the typical argument method of those lacking common sense and pragmatism. You people love to argue specific versus general. That is a practice of both the ignorant and the deluded.
I already told you I will not be providing evidence. I simply do not care if you don't believe my personal experience.. Even if I did, I would not be able to since I work on sensitive data that I am not able to share within the company I work for.
As what processor I have. Since you are so "knowledgeable" about all things computer, I already gave you enough information in my previous reply. I stated my PC is a 2 year old HP and has 32GB of RAM. It also has an SSD. From that you should be able to figure out what CPU it has
2.5GB ethernet is not a thing? Try using your DuckDuckGo searching skills. There are 2.5GB/5GB/10GB/40GB ethernet speeds and NICs. This device has a 2.5GB ethernet port. It is listed in the product page. Based on some of your replies to people's posts though, it appears you do have reading comprehension problems.
Again, you need to stop thinking that your use case is the same for everyone else's. Just because you do not see the need for this product, does not mean it does not fit the bill for someone else. I am far from a power user and can see the benefits of a high powered CPU and 10GB ethernet ports. I couldn't care less about high powered GPUs and this "refresh rate" advantage you speak of since I'm not a gamer. Integrated GPUs are plenty fast enough for me so long as I can run at least 2 monitors at 1920x1080@60Hz.
Re the phy, it's in the specs, and also on the pictures of the rear of the device "RJ45 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Port × 1". If we're being overly critical about the difference between GB and Gb, well that's on you.
Not trying to get into some weird techy religious war here. I have my reasons for what I want, I play with plenty of tech (including my raid and other link aggregated systems that can saturate the interfaces I'm concerned about).
The most important point here is it's what I want. For me space is a premium and this would make my life better.
This thread really needs to take a breather. It's just a computer folks.
If you're experiencing extended delays when working with spreadsheets that are that "massive, I pontificate that you are accessing them over a local network, most likely from a typical DFS server or cluster. That network traffic? Yeah, that's what's slowing the process down. It might not even be a bandwidth issue; it's probably something related to your TCP window size and the well-documented issues with TCP autotuning for SMB 2.0+ systems. That issue is often further exacerbated by accessing large databases or other datasets (such as large spreadsheets) over multiple segments and your Network engineering team should work on cross-router window sizes and traffic prioritization.
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8. Who the Fck said anything about using this system as an enterprise work machine? Are you fcking retarded.
Are you suggesting that SOHOs would be using massive Excel spreadsheets with complicated formulas and reporting? Hmmm
*mic drop*
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Re the phy, it's in the specs, and also on the pictures of the rear of the device "RJ45 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet Port × 1". If we're being overly critical about the difference between GB and Gb, well that's on you.
Not trying to get into some weird techy religious war here. I have my reasons for what I want, I play with plenty of tech (including my raid and other link aggregated systems that can saturate the interfaces I'm concerned about).
The most important point here is it's what I want. For me space is a premium and this would make my life better.
This thread really needs to take a breather. It's just a computer folks.
You're correct about the 2.5Gbps; the specifications indicate gigabit but the image does indeed indicate that it supports 2.5Gbps Ethernet. The images on the website doesn't even have a rear-view image. I had to google the device to find one.
If you checked my comment, I did indeed state that those speeds of network transfer are only realized in limited instances, one of which is in systems with large RAID arrays of more than a few drives. If that's how you're set up then that meets what I stated. That being said, this system wouldn't support a RAID interface that could saturate that pipe so even if you had a $50K Clarion SAN array with 100 drives in RAID6, it would still only be useful in cases where you were connected directly to the LUN as your primary data storage. Replicating files would still be bottlenecked by the local storage. I would say that out of thousands of people, you're probably the only one to have a legitimate use-case scenario to substantiate the added cost of buying something like this, but only if you are doing some other random activity that requires such an overkill CPU. Frankly, I'd argue that if you're enough of a nerd to be running a local SAN with NIC teaming at home, you could probably geek up a better solution. I still wonder what kind of 'lab' would require that type of setup. It seems interesting.
What is the commit charge? If you don't know then you are making unsubstantiated remarks. The fact that you refer to commit charge as being out of memory already tells me that you aren't qualified to make this statement because they two are related but not the same. Also, you haven't a clue what it means to be "out of memory" because you don't understand how the system kernel allocates those resources. If the system is performing correctly when loading huge files, you should see your RAM being maxed out up to whatever percentage the kernel decides should be reserved for other application or system processes. You say you've 32GB of RAM but that really means NOTHING. If you have 32GB, Excel might allocate (depending on its configuration and that of the kernel's page pool allocation [and NO, the system paged pool and non-paged pool is NOT the same thing as paged RAM, even if they both use the word "page"] for example 28GB for Excel to use, cut up into the non-paged memory pool which then purges data from the pool when more is added. Typically for examples such as yours you would set it to 0xFFFFFFFF in the registry to overcome depleted memory pools. Again, you can check for event ID 2020 or 2021 in the log files to see if this is becoming extreme enough to cause system instability issues.
If you're experiencing extended delays when working with spreadsheets that are that "massive, I pontificate that you are accessing them over a local network, most likely from a typical DFS server or cluster. That network traffic? Yeah, that's what's slowing the process down. It might not even be a bandwidth issue; it's probably something related to your TCP window size and the well-documented issues with TCP autotuning for SMB 2.0+ systems. That issue is often further exacerbated by accessing large databases or other datasets (such as large spreadsheets) over multiple segments and your Network engineering team should work on cross-router window sizes and traffic prioritization.
Again, you're desperately clinging to this fantasy that this system is good for working on large spreadsheets. Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that this system is generally an off-balance system that serves little to no purpose except for marketing to people like you who don't really have a firm grasp of the technology you employ. Yet again you're trying to argue a specific example versus a general idea. It's the debate method those with little to offer in terms of actual knowledge typically resort to.
So you're a grunt; I got it. That further substantiates my assertion that YOU really haven't a clue what you're talking about and are in fact just some bean counter without nothing more than a very basic understanding of systems.
That's true, but mathematical operations are actually FASTER than sorting in almost every case. CISC architecture, which is what Core-iX processors employ includes many integrated instruction sets in the microcode to accelerate complicated mathematical expressions.
It has a CPU installed that is way out of balance with the rest of the system. With the exception of an INCREDIBLY RARE set of examples, this system would in fact be SLOWER than some systems that strike a balance between its components. Anyone worth their salt as a systems integrator, administrator, or solution architect will tell you exactly the same thing, although I doubt that you would listen, as you're the type of wannabe who likes to delude himself into thinking he's right, even when what he's saying is wrong.
LOL, NO. Again you demonstrate just how ignorant of the subject matter you actually are. "Refresh rate" refers to the speed in Megahertz that a component operates at; in this case the CPU. A fast GPU contributes nearly nothing to Excel as there is no CUDA acceleration employed the software... YET. I doubt it ever will, either since Microsoft wants to move to a subscription-based service that leverages cloud-computing. Excel 2019 is believed to be the last standalone version of the software that will ever get released, and even in that case you can't use the software without Windows 10 unless you go through an elaborate hacking process to get it working on previous versions of Windows.
Nobody is arguing the convenience of using spreadsheets versus databases. You're just confusing the conversation in an effort to look less of a fool. I stated that this system is not particularly well-engineered as configured. The number of people that would find this a better option over similarly-priced alternatives is INCREDIBLY small. You and your buddy's crying about Microsoft Excel is not only unfounded but frankly even if it was accurate, it is a moot point because no enterprise company would deploy an unsupported no-name system like this regardless.
Are you suggesting that SOHOs would be using massive Excel spreadsheets with complicated formulas and reporting? Hmmm
I've already established that I have worked with many large spreadsheets in enterprise corporate environments, not to mention had many direct reports over my career that are bean counter grunts just like you.
My first comment was that this system is pretty odd and won't be particularly useful for the vast majority of end users. That comment is accurate. You only consider my comments absurd in that they dumpster anything of the opinions you've given thus far... using facts.
I know you're tired from being buried repeatedly but if you don't like hearing TRUTH then YOU are the one that needs to leave. Also, Neither Jesus nor God would have anything to do with you. You are not a godly person, and are in fact bigoted in your adamant yet [mostly] untrue statements, fascist in that you don't want to hear that you're wrong so you demand people to be silent, and evil in that you exhibit these evil qualities while simultaneously using both Jesus' name and God's formal address in vain.
*mic drop*
"Refresh rate" = speed in MHZ? I definitely do not want whatever it is you're smoking. MHz is a measure of cycles per second. No one refers to the MHz value of a CPU/GPU as refresh rate. That is more commonly referred to as the clock speed of the CPU/GPU. So in one post you state that we don't need a more powerful CPU, what we need is a higher "refresh rate". Now you're stating refresh rate is the MHz of the CPU. The higher the MHz, the faster the CPU. So in essence you are now stating we need a more powerful CPU. So which is it? Do we need a faster CPU or do we need higher refresh rates?
As to your complaint that no one is arguing using databases vs. Excel, that is not true either. Again, this goes back you your inability to comprehend what you read. There was a poster who specifically stated we should consider using a database instead of Excel.
Please stop trying to sound intelligent by throwing out terms you heard but do not understand. Really? CUDA acceleration in Excel? You know why there is none? It makes no sense. CPUs and GPUs are designed for different purposes. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. You spec your system based on what you need to accomplish. You don't buy a high end CPU to mine bitcoin just like you don't buy a high end GPU to perform data analytics. Sure you can buy a wrench and use it to pound in a nail, but buying a hammer would be much more efficient.
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I'll tell you what; you BUY this machine and run your [non-existent] spreadsheet sort function on each of the two and do a simple video of it. If you show this outperforming your "i7" system (which really means nothing since i7 is just a family and they have CPUs going all the way back to nearly 15 years ago) and I'll BUY it for you. That's even without you qualifying what "i7 system" that you have. I'm going to guess you'll never do anything of the sort because you suspect I'm right, but even if you did I'm further willing to bet that you're going to march up some old laptop with 4GB of RAM and a 4600RPM hard drive.
It was a million rows by about 25 columns wide with each column utilizing a previous set of columns to generate an output. I quoted them a week to convert it to SQL Server but they needed it faster than they had time to even stand up a SQL Server much less refactor the model.
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