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Amazon.com: AMD YD297XAZAFWOF Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX 24 Core, 48 Thread Processor, Pack of 1 : Everything Else $635.99

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An astonishing 24 cores and 48 processing threads for serious designers and artists
Incredible 4.2 ghz max boost frequency, with a huge 76mb cache
Unlocked, with automatic overclocking via the new precision boost overdrive (pbo) feature
Quad channel DDR4 and 64 pcie lanes, the most bandwidth and I/o you can get on desktop processor
250w TDP, CPU cooler not included

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08-28-2021 at 05:59 PM.
08-28-2021 at 05:59 PM.
Sold and shipped by Third party - "AMD Authorized Reseller" FYI.

Not eligible for prime.
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08-28-2021 at 06:22 PM.

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08-28-2021 at 06:22 PM.
Almost a 3 year old chip now. The motherboards for these only support TR1 and TR2 chips unless I am mistaken. Motherboards are very expensive.

Granted, the processor is going for like $899 on Newegg.
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08-28-2021 at 06:48 PM.

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08-28-2021 at 06:48 PM.
Get a 5900x for $500 unless you need all that pcie lanes
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08-28-2021 at 07:01 PM.
08-28-2021 at 07:01 PM.
Quote from heavyarms1912 :
Get a 5900x for $500 unless you need all that pcie lanes
Bragging rights are more important than pcie lanes imho
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08-28-2021 at 07:05 PM.
08-28-2021 at 07:05 PM.
Quote from heavyarms1912 :
Get a 5900x for $500 unless you need all that pcie lanes

Yeah looks like 5900x is the way to go also end of the line for AM4
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08-28-2021 at 07:37 PM.
08-28-2021 at 07:37 PM.
wow. actually tamped to upgrade my 1950x

doesn't make sense for most people, but those who build TR system 5 years ago is a good choice.
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08-29-2021 at 05:23 AM.
08-29-2021 at 05:23 AM.
Quote from seanleeforever :
wow. actually tamped to upgrade my 1950x

doesn't make sense for most people, but those who build TR system 5 years ago is a good choice.

Most likely your mb will need an add on to support it if you have a gen1 motherboard

Have the zenith extreme first gen and it needed a kit to support anything above the 2950x
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08-29-2021 at 09:30 AM.
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Quote from paulhenta :
Most likely your mb will need an add on to support it if you have a gen1 motherboard

Have the zenith extreme first gen and it needed a kit to support anything above the 2950x
you are referring the cooling kit that is basically a fan blow air on the VRM as the 2970 and 2990 use more current and generate more heat for a board that was designed only with 16 core in mind.

not all M/B requires that (heck, my MSI x399 gaming pro carbon actually came with the optional cooling fan for VRM, i just never bother to install as the temperature isn't high), but most importantly, zenith extreme's the VRM supply was a 8+3 design, which is why they had to redesign zenith extreme alpha to support 2nd gen with 16+3 design. if you have board like MSI that build with 10+3 to begin with, you will be fine (and the fact that MSI never bother to release a new board for 2nd gen TR or any of the add on stuff )
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08-29-2021 at 04:09 PM.
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Quote from seanleeforever :
you are referring the cooling kit that is basically a fan blow air on the VRM as the 2970 and 2990 use more current and generate more heat for a board that was designed only with 16 core in mind.

not all M/B requires that (heck, my MSI x399 gaming pro carbon actually came with the optional cooling fan for VRM, i just never bother to install as the temperature isn't high), but most importantly, zenith extreme's the VRM supply was a 8+3 design, which is why they had to redesign zenith extreme alpha to support 2nd gen with 16+3 design. if you have board like MSI that build with 10+3 to begin with, you will be fine (and the fact that MSI never bother to release a new board for 2nd gen TR or any of the add on stuff )
I have the same motherboard with a 1900x in it and tempted to upgrade. I am the second owner and the system originally came with a liquid CPU cooler. Any idea if i can re use the cooler?
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08-29-2021 at 04:16 PM.
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Quote from VamsiG2093 :
I have the same motherboard with a 1900x in it and tempted to upgrade. I am the second owner and the system originally came with a liquid CPU cooler. Any idea if i can re use the cooler?
you mean the zenith or MSI?
it really just a bracket that point to the VRM (the metal heat sink next to CPU socket). i don't know why you cannot use the cooler? it doesn't get in the way or anything, especially if you use water cooler.

it is mighty ugly. so if you have a case fan that can point to the VRM, you can achieve the same effect.
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08-29-2021 at 04:46 PM.
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Quote from seanleeforever :
you mean the zenith or MSI?
it really just a bracket that point to the VRM (the metal heat sink next to CPU socket). i don't know why you cannot use the cooler? it doesn't get in the way or anything, especially if you use water cooler.

it is mighty ugly. so if you have a case fan that can point to the VRM, you can achieve the same effect.
I have the MSI X399. The case fan sits right below the VRM heat sink.

I got it for a relative bargain, but am now thinking of upgrading the chip, PSU,and add a 30xx to run some Machine learning training work loads. If the mobo is gonna creak under that load, I might as well build a new pc, but am reluctant to just give away a perfectly good rest of the machine.
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08-29-2021 at 05:02 PM.
08-29-2021 at 05:02 PM.
Quote from VamsiG2093 :
I have the MSI X399. The case fan sits right below the VRM heat sink.

I got it for a relative bargain, but am now thinking of upgrading the chip, PSU,and add a 30xx to run some Machine learning training work loads. If the mobo is gonna creak under that load, I might as well build a new pc, but am reluctant to just give away a perfectly good rest of the machine.
i think it should be fine, if you don't think about OC.
i push my 1950 to run 4.0G Hz all day long, i don't recall the exact power usage during testing, but entire system during cinabench is about 450W, since my system idle at 115W, that means i pushed over 300W to the processor during stress test.

but ML has a lot more to do with GPU than CPU. i build my system for ML school project a few years ago, running the same training set with the same model, the difference between setting CUDA flag on and off is night and day difference, and that was with 1070.
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08-29-2021 at 11:51 PM.
08-29-2021 at 11:51 PM.
Both the 5900x and 5950x are much better choices for almost every use case.

There is a case to be made for this 2970wx IF:
What you are doing relies COMPLETELY on uncapped multithreading.
You need more than 128GB of RAM.
You need over 48GB/s of memory bandwidth (Dual Channel).


The 5900x for less money outperforms this chip even in most heavily multithreaded loads, has other modern architecture advances, AND most importantly has very good reliability, a must for any professional environment, Even now the 2000 series Zen chips do not have 100% uptime kind of reliability.

And to really blow this one out of the water the 5950x is only $800 if you are looking for every thread you can get. 24 "old" Cores are not as good as 16 "modern" when it comes to Ryzen.
Motherboards for the 2970wx cost easily $100-200 more than those for 5000x cpus.
Also they both use half the power and put out half the heat.
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08-30-2021 at 10:36 AM.
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Quote from Endzero :
Yeah looks like 5900x is the way to go also end of the line for AM4
Wouldn't it be the 5950x, or are you saying 5900x is the more reasonably priced alternative?
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