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expired Posted by xlnc • Aug 29, 2021
Aug 29, 2021 2:33 AM
Costco Members: HP Pavilion 15.6" Touch Laptop: Ryzen 7 5700U, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD
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1. This HP has usb-c with DP and PD, meaning you can actually use a dock to both power the laptop as well as having 4K60hz output over the usb-c. The lenovo usb-c has neither DP or PD function
2. This HP has HDMI 2.0. The lenovo only have hdmi 1.4 meaning that lenovo has no way to output 4K60hz at all while with the HP you can actually connect two external 4K screens and run both at 60hz. If you are the type that want a laptop that can run multiple external screen, the HP beats the lenovo by a mile
3. This HP has dual ram slots meaning you will be able to upgrade all the way to 64GB ram and run them in dual channel. The lenovo has a built in 4GB soldered ram with 1 ram slot (hence it has a weird 12GB ram configuration with the costco model because that one ram slot has an 8GB module). So with the lenovo you are limited to 40GB ram and its not dual channel.
advantage of the lenovo:
1. Slightly bigger battery
2. Slightly brighter screen
3. Black color keyboard is better with white backlit and visibility compared to the HP silver keys not as well visible with the backlit.
This Pavilion 15 has two ram slots, supporting 64GB of memory (32GB is the max HP sells this model with, not maximum supported), hdmi 2.0 port and fully featured Type-C port, supporting 10 Gbps data, display port 1.4 (4k at 120 Hz) and power delivery charging which can be used to charge the device with any 45W+ PD charger.
Nice specs but 250nits is a deal breaker for me.
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1. This HP has usb-c with DP and PD, meaning you can actually use a dock to both power the laptop as well as having 4K60hz output over the usb-c. The lenovo usb-c has neither DP or PD function
2. This HP has HDMI 2.0. The lenovo only have hdmi 1.4 meaning that lenovo has no way to output 4K60hz at all while with the HP you can actually connect two external 4K screens and run both at 60hz. If you are the type that want a laptop that can run multiple external screen, the HP beats the lenovo by a mile
3. This HP has dual ram slots meaning you will be able to upgrade all the way to 64GB ram and run them in dual channel. The lenovo has a built in 4GB soldered ram with 1 ram slot (hence it has a weird 12GB ram configuration with the costco model because that one ram slot has an 8GB module). So with the lenovo you are limited to 40GB ram and its not dual channel.
advantage of the lenovo:
1. Slightly bigger battery
2. Slightly brighter screen
3. Black color keyboard is better with white backlit and visibility compared to the HP silver keys not as well visible with the backlit.
What does PD stand for?
The base deal was $400, but according to this upvoted guy,
Coupon SMBHOL10 works for $599 or more.
Paypal Chase offer gives 5% cashback too !!
- old deal had Ryzen 7 4700U vs this deal's Ryzen 7 5700U
- old deal had HDMI 1.4 vs this deal's HDMI 2.0
- The guy didn't mention DP 1.2 upgrade so not sure if that cost more. This deal is DP 1.4
- HP 30 day return policy vs Costco 90 day
- HP 1 year warranty vs Costco 2 year warranty
The old deal was $548 with 5% paypal Chase cashback.This deal is $610 - $50 coupon = $560 with 5% paypal key discover cashback.
So this deal is $560 - $548 = $12 more expensive than the previous deal with a few upgrades. It has also been about 9 months since that deal. If you buy this laptop before the deal expires, the 90 day return policy will land you within Black Friday 2021 to return if there are better deals.
What does PD stand for?
The base deal was $400, but according to this upvoted guy,
I think after those customizations, the laptop is almost the same except for a few things:
- old deal had Ryzen 7 4700U vs this deal's Ryzen 7 5700U
- old deal had HDMI 1.4 vs this deal's HDMI 2.0
- The guy didn't mention DP 1.2 upgrade so not sure if that cost more. This deal is DP 1.4
- HP 30 day return policy vs Costco 90 day
- HP 1 year warranty vs Costco 2 year warranty
The old deal was $548 with 5% paypal Chase cashback.This deal is $610 - $50 coupon = $560 with 5% paypal key discover cashback.
So this deal is $560 - $548 = $12 more expensive than the previous deal with a few upgrades. It has also been about 9 months since that deal. If you buy this laptop before the deal expires, the 90 day return policy will land you within Black Friday 2021 to return if there are better deals.
With the older deal from HP you can configure a more barebone nontouch 1080p, 8GB ram, 256gb ssd for less than $450 so it's more flexible and better bargain if 1) you just want more barebone for cheaper 2) you want to do your own upgrade.
the older laptop has 8 core 8 thread cpu vs this new one with 8 core 16 threads. the newer cpu is much faster, about 30-40% multicore speed with marginal 8% single core improvement.
Costco warranty and money back exchange is a lot better than HP.
I would say given the price increase compare to the older HP deal, the two deals would be fairly close, with slight advantage to this new deal.
I should have been able to figure that one out, but I didn't think the ac plug / power cord / charging port were not descriptive enough?
I learned something additional here. Like, a usb-c can be both the power plug or a DP. I'm thinking about setting up an additional monitor and this knowledge will save me some headaches down the road.
I should have been able to figure that one out, but I didn't think the ac plug / power cord / charging port were not descriptive enough?
I learned something additional here. Like, a usb-c can be both the power plug or a DP. I'm thinking about setting up an additional monitor and this knowledge will save me some headaches down the road.
A lot of laptops sadly only have usb-c for data only with HDMI 1.4 still that won't let you run anything more than 2560X1440 at 60hz.
The great thing about having both DP and DP over usb-c is the ability to fully use an external usb-c dock with a lot of these docks having additional usb as well as display outputs and also supplying power to the laptop at the same time. All while you are connected to the dock with only the usb-c cable.
The usb-c cable however has to be rated for both DP and PD. not just any usb-c cable will do.
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A lot of laptops sadly only have usb-c for data only with HDMI 1.4 still that won't let you run anything more than 2560X1440 at 60hz.
The great thing about having both DP and DP over usb-c is the ability to fully use an external usb-c dock with a lot of these docks having additional usb as well as display outputs and also supplying power to the laptop at the same time. All while you are connected to the dock with only the usb-c cable.
The usb-c cable however has to be rated for both DP and PD. not just any usb-c cable will do.
Again, thank you. I did not know that one could run multiple items off of one usb-c port!
With a dock made for that, of course.
A lot of laptops sadly only have usb-c for data only with HDMI 1.4 still that won't let you run anything more than 2560X1440 at 60hz.
The great thing about having both DP and DP over usb-c is the ability to fully use an external usb-c dock with a lot of these docks having additional usb as well as display outputs and also supplying power to the laptop at the same time. All while you are connected to the dock with only the usb-c cable.
The usb-c cable however has to be rated for both DP and PD. not just any usb-c cable will do.
I presume with a dock from the USB-C that I could connect dual monitors via HDMI (or DP if the monitor has that) thru the dock?
The base deal was $400, but according to this upvoted guy,
I think after those customizations, the laptop is almost the same except for a few things:
- old deal had Ryzen 7 4700U vs this deal's Ryzen 7 5700U
- old deal had HDMI 1.4 vs this deal's HDMI 2.0
- The guy didn't mention DP 1.2 upgrade so not sure if that cost more. This deal is DP 1.4
- HP 30 day return policy vs Costco 90 day
- HP 1 year warranty vs Costco 2 year warranty
The old deal was $548 with 5% paypal Chase cashback.This deal is $610 - $50 coupon = $560 with 5% paypal key discover cashback.
So this deal is $560 - $548 = $12 more expensive than the previous deal with a few upgrades. It has also been about 9 months since that deal. If you buy this laptop before the deal expires, the 90 day return policy will land you within Black Friday 2021 to return if there are better deals.
HDMI is 2.0 also for the older one. I can confirm that because i have one. The older one also support DP 1.4 over usb-c . So really nothing new in term of ext display output.
With the older deal from HP you can configure a more barebone nontouch 1080p, 8GB ram, 256gb ssd for less than $450 so it's more flexible and better bargain if 1) you just want more barebone for cheaper 2) you want to do your own upgrade.
the older laptop has 8 core 8 thread cpu vs this new one with 8 core 16 threads. the newer cpu is much faster, about 30-40% multicore speed with marginal 8% single core improvement.
Costco warranty and money back exchange is a lot better than HP.
I would say given the price increase compare to the older HP deal, the two deals would be fairly close, with slight advantage to this new deal.
I do agree that there are more suitable deals for people who won't be taking advantage of all the features of this laptop, like the barebones HP or the previous Costco Lenovo deals. A typical user probably won't be using 16 threads, 16 GB ram, and 2 displays. They could probably do without the touchscreen too. And probably be fine with 256 GB SSD if they don't store a ton of media and games.
Just sign up for paypal key on paypal site and then use that virtual credit card number to pay for purchases. It will be treated as a paypal purchase and Discover will give you your 5%. I haven't confirmed I'll get 5% for this Costco order, but I've got it working on previous orders already.
A neat trick is that you can use this method to pay for utilities, rent, internet, and cell phone bills too. It has worked for me on utilities and internet so far. People on Reddit also confirm that it has worked on their utilities and rent. You can easily hit the $1500 quarter limit if this works for you.
Paypal key shows up as a debit card, so make sure debit is accepted. You can still charge the card as credit though. Some people charge it as debit to avoid credit card administrative fees when paying stuff like rent.
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