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Google Nest Wifi - AC2200 - Mesh WiFi System - Wifi Router - 2 pack - $229.00

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Including two of the mesh routers, this Google Nest Wifi package delivers 4,400-square feet of coverage while also supporting 80.211ac 2.2Gb/s speeds, as well.

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Including two of the mesh routers, this Google Nest Wifi package delivers 4,400-square feet of coverage while also supporting 80.211ac 2.2Gb/s speeds, as well.

This is different from other similar deals where there is one router and one point


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YMJ5...ARBM2Q5Q3Z

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Sep 1, 2021
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ben_b
Sep 1, 2021
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This post has some incorrect info:
* The Router does not have Google assistant built in, only the Points do
* Each Router only has two ethernet plugs, one of which has to be used for connection to your modem
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Sep 1, 2021
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Jayhawkaholic
Sep 1, 2021
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I was an early adopter of Google Wifi and have a router and three points (4 original google wifi units). I know one of the routers would be an upgrade but when the other router acts as a point does it also do higher speeds? I guess it's possible if I backhaul the second router but don't know if it'll do it naturally via mesh.
Sep 2, 2021
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EngineerDude
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Quote from Jayhawkaholic :
I was an early adopter of Google Wifi and have a router and three points (4 original google wifi units). I know one of the routers would be an upgrade but when the other router acts as a point does it also do higher speeds? I guess it's possible if I backhaul the second router but don't know if it'll do it naturally via mesh.
When you use wireless backhaul for a point rather than wired, it theoretically cuts the maximum possible speed of the point in half. But using a Google Nest WiFi router as a point instead of a Google WiFi puck would still improve the speed because you're halving a AC2200 unit instead of an AC1200 unit.
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JamesT9955
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Just a heads up, there's no way to separate the 2.4 ghz and the 5 ghz bands (at least easily) with these things and most smart home devices require you use the 2.4 band.

If you ask Google about it they say it's on your phone manufacturer to force 2.4 during setup. Well Google made my phone too and it doesn't have that functionality. The solution? Stand across the street from your house when you set up smart home devices.
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springaround
Sep 2, 2021
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Quote from JamesT9955 :
Just a heads up, there's no way to separate the 2.4 ghz and the 5 ghz bands (at least easily) with these things and most smart home devices require you use the 2.4 band.

If you ask Google about it they say it's on your phone manufacturer to force 2.4 during setup. Well Google made my phone too and it doesn't have that functionality. The solution? Stand across the street from your house when you set up smart home devices.
When u setup new smart devices that require 2.4, unplug google nest WiFi, enable the built in 2.4 wifi inside the modem with the same WiFi name and password, once the new devices are connected, disable the modem WiFi and plug back the google nest WiFi, done!
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VSB
Sep 2, 2021
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Does any one know how this one is different from the one sold by Best Buy ($199) here -
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nest...Id=6382512... ?
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JamesT9955
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Quote from springaround :
When u setup new smart devices that require 2.4, unplug google nest WiFi, enable the built in 2.4 wifi inside the modem with the same WiFi name and password, once the new devices are connected, disable the modem WiFi and plug back the google nest WiFi, done!
Smart work around if your modem has wifi. I just wish Google included such basic functionality.

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Quote from VSB :
Does any one know how this one is different from the one sold by Best Buy ($199) here -
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nest...Id=6382512 [bestbuy.com]... ?
Yes. And you probably aren't alone in this, as it certainly isn't clear from the outside; at least with a cursory look. While the Nest WIFI devices all look the same [from the top], there are actually two different sets of hardware at play here.

(1) The first is the router, which is included in every kit on the shelf *. Whether you buy a one-pack, or a three-node setup, one of these will be included. This is the device that would connect to your modem and has two built-in ethernet ports. It will act as the "center" of your network. Of note (and I haven't verified this), but of the two devices available, word is it also has the more powerful antenna. This device does not have the built-in assistant (no speaker or mic).

(2) The second device is strictly an access point. It has no ethernet ports and can only connect to the other nodes (or clients) wirelessly. You cannot use this device if you want wired backhaul, but I believe I'm safe in saying that *most* users won't do this any way. It is a shame though, as sometimes you want to put a device like this near a group of devices that could either benefit (A) from a wired connection due to less cross-talk/interference of wireless or (B) due to the fact they don't have wireless capabilities (see my old laser printer). This device DOES have a built-in speaker and mic, and supports the Google assistant.

With that... the Amazon listing (this post) has two Routers. The best buy option you posted is the standard "2-pack" with (1) Router and (1) Access Point.

* I'm sure you could find a multi-pack of access points out there if you tried hard enough. It's not something that I know Google sells as a kit though... So, you'll generally be safe with at least one router in the bunch, allowing you to connect these to the internet.
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apisaths
Sep 3, 2021
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I think BestBuy has it a little cheaper.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nest...Id=6382512
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BryanK87
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Quote from ben_b :
This post has some incorrect info:
* The Router does not have Google assistant built in, only the Points do
* Each Router only has two ethernet plugs, one of which has to be used for connection to your modem
Corrected. Thank you
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BryanK87
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Quote from apisaths :
I think BestBuy has it a little cheaper.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nest...Id=6382512
The Best Buy deal is one router and one access point. This has 2 routers
Sep 9, 2021
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Sep 9, 2021
vjarocks
Sep 9, 2021
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Quote from springaround :
When u setup new smart devices that require 2.4, unplug google nest WiFi, enable the built in 2.4 wifi inside the modem with the same WiFi name and password, once the new devices are connected, disable the modem WiFi and plug back the google nest WiFi, done!
I am not a super expert of networking. But couple of days ago I tried 4-pack nest wifi from Costco and needed to connect smart lights which needs 2.4 only. From google home app, its very seamless and quick. FYI, I used IPhone.
Sep 9, 2021
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user017
Sep 9, 2021
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FYI the wired backhaul is max 100 Mbps. I stopped using mine.
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Sep 16, 2021
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slamam
Sep 16, 2021
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Quote from credo :
Yes. And you probably aren't alone in this, as it certainly isn't clear from the outside; at least with a cursory look. While the Nest WIFI devices all look the same [from the top], there are actually two different sets of hardware at play here.

(1) The first is the router, which is included in every kit on the shelf *. Whether you buy a one-pack, or a three-node setup, one of these will be included. This is the device that would connect to your modem and has two built-in ethernet ports. It will act as the "center" of your network. Of note (and I haven't verified this), but of the two devices available, word is it also has the more powerful antenna. This device does not have the built-in assistant (no speaker or mic).

(2) The second device is strictly an access point. It has no ethernet ports and can only connect to the other nodes (or clients) wirelessly. You cannot use this device if you want wired backhaul, but I believe I'm safe in saying that *most* users won't do this any way. It is a shame though, as sometimes you want to put a device like this near a group of devices that could either benefit (A) from a wired connection due to less cross-talk/interference of wireless or (B) due to the fact they don't have wireless capabilities (see my old laser printer). This device DOES have a built-in speaker and mic, and supports the Google assistant.

With that... the Amazon listing (this post) has two Routers. The best buy option you posted is the standard "2-pack" with (1) Router and (1) Access Point.

* I'm sure you could find a multi-pack of access points out there if you tried hard enough. It's not something that I know Google sells as a kit though... So, you'll generally be safe with at least one router in the bunch, allowing you to connect these to the internet.
Can anyone with an access point confirm that they do not have an Ethernet port, and cannot be wired together? From Googles help page, it very clearly discuses how to link multiple points together with Ethernet, and how to add an Ethernet switch into the wired network etc.
https://support.google.com/wifi/a...624?hl=en#
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credo
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Quote from slamam :
Can anyone with an access point confirm that they do not have an Ethernet port, and cannot be wired together? From Googles help page, it very clearly discuses how to link multiple points together with Ethernet, and how to add an Ethernet switch into the wired network etc.
https://support.google.com/wifi/a...624?hl=en# [google.com]
FTA: "However, if you prefer to connect directly to your Google Nest Wifi router or Google Wifi point [...] "

Emphasis mine. "Google Nest Wifi" is a separate product from "Google Wifi". Somehow the genius marketing minds at Google thought simply adding the word "Nest" would make that clear, but it usually just leads to confusion.

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