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4TB WD Red Plus NAS 5400 RPM 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $89 with $8 off code + FS $89.99
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newegg.com has 4TB WD Red Plus NAS 5400 RPM 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (WD40EFZX) for $97.99 - $8 = $89.99, with $8 off w/ promo code 93XRZ35, Shipping is free.
https://www.newegg.com/red-plus-wd40efzx-4tb/p/1B4-005X-001D3?sdtid=152
t is $1 more than previous frontpage deal.
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https://www.newegg.com/red-plus-wd40efzx-4tb/p/1B4-005X-001D3?sdtid=152
t is $1 more than previous frontpage deal.
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Absolutely not saying spacej0ckey is wrong, desktop storage is not the intended use for a red brand hard drive but at that price it sure is tempting !
https://community.spice
Jorge is an employee at Western Digital who basically says yes go ahead and use it for storage
https://forums.tomshard
super_sophWD who talks about "our store at western digital" says it's okay as a big storage drive but that's not it's primary intended purpose
https://forums.tomshard
the guy who posted that at tom's hardware forum says he used a red brand hard drive for four years successfully for storage
https://www.quora.com/Can-a-NAS-h...hard-drive
in that quora link a guy who does data recovery from hard drives for a living Jared Palmer insists you can use the red brand for storage (but there's also a guy on there who's an electrical engineer saying don't do it )
and see also
https://www.quora.com/Can-I-use-a...desktop-PC
https://www.quora.com/Can-a-NAS-h...hard-drive
You'll notice in those links there are some people who are saying "don't do it " but a lot of people say " Sure that's fine go ahead".
I did a lot of research on this when amazon mailed me the 2 TB red brand hard drive instead of the 1 TB black drive that I wanted
Standard disclaimer.. I own a dozen Wd reds between my dedicated NAS (Truenas) and a couple of dual disk appliances. I have ran original 8 for several years now with only one failure to date. I have not treated them well in the sense they get to run in less than ideal environment ( very hot ). I think they are great drives but like all things not the best suited for every need. I'm actually buying some more of these 4tb disk to eventually replace the 8 1tb reds that have served me well.
Western Digital has now turned to "5400 RPM Class" in their Spec Sheet: WD Red Plus Product Brief [cnetcontent.com]
and some entrepreneurial techie (reddit Data Hoarders maybe?) had gone so far as to measure the vibration frequency of 5400 RPM vs 7200 RPM HDDs and reached the conclusion that "5400 RPM Class" is in fact rotating at 7200 RPM
The WD Red sold today is SMR.
The WD Red PLUS sold today is CMR.
For reliable long-term storage you want to buy a CMR HDD.
Forget it..math challenged 2nite.
I don't know why they chose to call it "5400 RPM Class" though. I just 'assumed' that it was a poorer performing 7200 RPM HDD. Have you done your own 'hands on' testing to verify?
In my personal view, Western Digital has lost a lot of credibility and is 'playing games' with the names and performance numbers of their HDDs. You can't compare Apples to Oranges, and if you look at their Spec Sheets they use different qualifiers 'as needed' to make one HDD look better than it really is:
- WD Black Data Sheet [westerndigital.com] - "Host to/from drive (sustained)"
- WD Red Data Sheet [westerndigital.com] - "Internal transfer rate"
- WD Red Plus Data Sheet [westerndigital.com] - "Interface Transfer Rate up to"
All nonsense by Marketing just to further confuse the public, IMNSHO... (and it varies greatly depending on HDD capacity)My point was to make a PSA about WD's misdirection - not to argue over 'nits'.
they spun about 22% slower and transferred yet transferred data ~20% faster.
and yes many of the disk utils confirm transfer rates
I don't know why they chose to call it "5400 RPM Class" though. I just 'assumed' that it was a poorer performing 7200 RPM HDD. Have you done your own 'hands on' testing to verify?
In my personal view, Western Digital has lost a lot of credibility and is 'playing games' with the names and performance numbers of their HDDs. You can't compare Apples to Oranges, and if you look at their Spec Sheets they use different qualifiers 'as needed' to make one HDD look better than it really is:
- WD Black Data Sheet [westerndigital.com] - "Host to/from drive (sustained)"
- WD Red Data Sheet [westerndigital.com] - "Internal transfer rate"
- WD Red Plus Data Sheet [westerndigital.com] - "Interface Transfer Rate up to"
All nonsense by Marketing just to further confuse the public, IMNSHO... (and it varies greatly depending on HDD capacity)My point was to make a PSA about WD's misdirection - not to argue over 'nits'.
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Absolutely not saying spacej0ckey is wrong, desktop storage is not the intended use for a red brand hard drive but at that price it sure is tempting !
https://community.spice
Jorge is an employee at Western Digital who basically says yes go ahead and use it for storage
https://forums.tomshard
super_sophWD who talks about "our store at western digital" says it's okay as a big storage drive but that's not it's primary intended purpose
https://forums.tomshard
the guy who posted that at tom's hardware forum says he used a red brand hard drive for four years successfully for storage
https://www.quora.com/Can-a-NAS-h...hard-drive
in that quora link a guy who does data recovery from hard drives for a living Jared Palmer insists you can use the red brand for storage (but there's also a guy on there who's an electrical engineer saying don't do it )
and see also
https://www.quora.com/Can-I-use-a...desktop-PC
https://www.quora.com/Can-a-NAS-h...hard-drive
You'll notice in those links there are some people who are saying "don't do it " but a lot of people say " Sure that's fine go ahead".
I did a lot of research on this when amazon mailed me the 2 TB red brand hard drive instead of the 1 TB black drive that I wanted
Sorry that I posted the question b4 reading your comments. Thanks for sharing!
https://documents.weste
The current blacks with double this cache of 256MiB has advertised spec of 256MBps, which is both cache and rotational speed contributing. Blacks have significantly faster transfer rates even if they don't necessarily show the max claimed. I have not seen any reviews where Blacks do worse than these Reds.
https://documents.weste
They are all transfer rates to hosts although the data sheets mislabel them with poor proof-reading. Interface rates are the SATA interface rights but some data sheets use this label for transfer rates incorrectly. Of course, it is always "up to" and real world performance varies on test and where in the platter the data resides. They are not fixed transfer rate devices.
But your main point is valid. WD does play a lot of games in the internals, and don't always create new model numbers or SKUs. So, the drives from one batch could have slightly different profile than another batch.
The SMR vs CMR change was very bad, small tweaking or interchangeable drives within the same speed class isn't that much of a concern for practical purposes (in terms of affecting performance or noise or heat).
"HMM... we can't seem to find promo code 93XRZ35 on our end. Check again?"
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Misleading, incomplete and WRONG! https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
For someone who DID NOT follow the LINK, the EFRX (old WD Red CMR version) was used successfully. NOT the new WD Red SMR EFAX version. For a NAS, folks should now buy the WD Red Plus EFZX and thank Western Digital and their unsuccessful attempt to 'put one over / pull a fast one on the unsuspecting public' back in April 2020 for all of the ensuing confusion. https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
---SNIP---
Misleading, incomplete and WRONG! https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
For someone who DID NOT follow the LINK, the EFRX (old WD Red CMR version) was used successfully. NOT the new WD Red SMR EFAX version. For a NAS, folks should now buy the WD Red Plus EFZX and thank Western Digital and their unsuccessful attempt to 'put one over / pull a fast one on the unsuspecting public' back in April 2020 for all of the ensuing confusion. https://static.slickdealscdn.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
Now you're going to have to bear with me since my memory is hazy on this since I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention to this part with my online research (see below)... but I have a vague recollection of Western Digital being hit with a lawsuit due to the non Plus versions of the Red drive doing something
(I want to say "shingling"?... TakeTheActive help me out here I'm sure you know more about this than me !
such that when the drives were used for their intended purpose (that is to backup data from computers such that the computer could be restored to it's original state if necessary instead of for " I want to stick this in my PC and store files on it ! " like what I want to do with the drive ....... of course I was more concerned with the non-backup-imaging PC's use for the drive since I don't do that sort of thing thus my lack of attention
... well it got so bad that WD actually got sued (as far as the Reds being used for their intended back stuff up purpose), resulting in the Plus version of the Red brand drive being released which presumably does not have the "bad" technology in it.
So totally my bad, I'm sitting here assuming everyone wants it to stick in their desktop to store files on, I can see from the posts here there are absolutely people who are interested in using it for it's original purpose (back up data from PC's in general and restore the PC back to it's original working condition if necessary or I assume that's the intended original use).. so from what little I could understand (again my emphasis was on desktop use and I don't know a lot about the backup imaging type stuff this drive is normally used for) absolutely , do what TakeTheActive says and go with the "Plus" version (which this slickdeals alert is for , I was lucky to get a Plus version from amazon myself when amazon made it's mistake
Maybe the Plus version is better even for standard "forget backing up PC's I just want to store files on it!" desktop use? TakeTheActive help me with this !
I feel silly posting all of this given the deal appears to be now over though