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Use code NEOCTOBER for $10 off $50+ orders
LINK:
https://www.newegg.com/neo-forza-...C0ECPE6383 NLA
Features:
- DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600)
- Timing 16-18-18-36
- CAS Latency 16
- Intel XMP 2.0
- Voltage 1.35V
Using the same code but for $5 dollars more you can get Neo Forza FAYE 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4 3600 CL18
Link:
https://www.newegg.com/neo-forza-...C0ECPE6382
Features:
- DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
- Timing 18-19-19-39
- CAS Latency 18
- Intel XMP 2.0
- Voltage 1.35V
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DIMMs are a simple commodity and one of the only ways to compete is cutting cost in production and design and one of the only ways to do those is by cutting corners.
And I'm not just speulating here, this is actually stuff I've heard straight from the horses mouth talking to actual engineer at DIMM producers in the course of my career.
Most of the time I imagine most people will be OK with any random generic DIMM. But some of the time generic DIMMs will be DOA. Worse, some of the time generic DIMMs will have low performance problems from marginal design that will randomly crash your system. Memory quality problems that result in instability can be one of the worst and most elusive system problems to diagnose and resolve.
For a difference of a few dollars memory is not one compent that I personally would cheap out on with an unproven brand if the result is a higher risk of system instability. Even if money is tight, I'd really recommend going with an established name brand with a track record of quality.
Hopefully people buing these will have good luck and these Neo Forza DIMMs will establish a record of quality and they'll turn out to be OK purchase. But then they'll probably jack their prices...
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16GB should be enough for most people.
But if you need more just buy 32GB. Not as good a deal of course.
In for one. $45 rather cheap for 16GB of Ram. Will replace the 8GB I have. Perhaps put it in another desktop that has four slots.
> Most Desktops only have two slots nowadays anyway.
Gonna need a source for this, because I'm 99.999...% sure you're wrong
Gonna need a source for this, because I'm 99.999...% sure you're wrong
The Dell 3000 series has two but the 5000 and 7000 series has four.
First of all, an older i3 is the only one that had a hard limit that even the best MB couldn't run the memory higher at. i5 and above can run with higher speed memory depending on the MB. But the official supported memory speeds for Intel tend to be 2666 (or less). So, any memory can be used. The question is what speed will it run at.
The speed in the spec for anything above 2666 is the max you can get with an XMP profile to "overclock" it if the MB allows. If the MB is not able to use XMP profile (most of the budget brand name PCs cannot), then you are limited to the so-called JEDEC standard setting that every MB and memory chip supports. Almost all higher speed memory is able to run at 2133 by default. So, you may find the memory being clocked at 2133 when you install it. Without XMP, you may be able to manually tweak it higher if the MB Bios allows it.
However, some (but not all memory sticks, the higher the performance/speed stick you go to higher the chances they don't bother as their target market don't use it for that purpose) have a "fallback" speed timing greater than 2133 either 2400 or 2666 reported in its SPD so motherboards even without XMP capability can run them at that speed without requiring manual tweaking. So such sticks can be used with the highest speed supported by the CPU/Motherboard as a plug-and-play without manual timing tweaking. Otherwise, you may find they run at 2133 without manual tweaking even if rated much higher while sticks advertised 2666 will run at 2166 on the same MB as it reports the timings for it in SPD without an XMP profile.
You should check the specs of the memory stick for either a JEDEC or SPD default or fallback clock rate to see what it will fall back to if XMP is not used. If they say 2666 then you can use it out of the box at that speed, otherwise you will need to manually tweak it in the bios if it allows it.
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Here is an example of a 3200 stick that will run at 2133 when you plug it into that machine. Read the article or my post above to understand why.
https://www.tomshardwar
Little information is a dangerous thing.
Edit: Showed up the next day. Oh well.
Installed it and it works fine. 16GB now. 8Gb before. Now I have a 8GB stick I can not use. Well may install it in another Desktop I have and sell it. I bought a new Ryzen 5 Desktop for $199 added a M.2 256GB now 16GB of DDR4. It is faster with 16GB. It boots up faster. Switches tabs faster.
Not sure the plastic actually does any good. It is just plastic not some metal. But I only wanted 3200 anyway as this Desktop would not accept faster. Dual channel is nice.
The Ryzen was using 2 GB so I have a lot more usable memory now. From 6GB to 14 GB.