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Specs
- AMD Ryzen 7 5800H Processor (3.20 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)
- 17.3" 1920 x 1080 144Hz 300nits IPS Display w/ Dolby Vision
- 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory
- 1TB PCIe Solid State Drive
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB Graphics
- 2x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2
- 4x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
- 1x HDMI
- 802.11AX (2 x 2) WiFi + Bluetooth 5.1
- Windows 10 Home
Top Comments
Don't listen to the "last year's chassis" guy. Most laptop makers don't really even "make" their own laptops. Faceless tech companies will sell them the design. In this way it's possible that you get a laptop from one company that is internally similar to a laptop from another. Like if MSI and Lenovo bought their design from Quanta computer, then those laptops may be more closely related than you'd imagine.
What matters to you, the consumer? 1stly, the CPU and GPU chips, along with the RAM and storage. Secondly, (mostly for gamers) you need to consider wattage and cooling. You may think a 3080 beats a 3070, and you wouldn't be wrong to think that way. The issue is that if the 3080 is being underfed by low wattage, it may underperform vs the 3070.
Cooling is an issue too. Heat kills electronics. Laptops are a compromise solution to begin with, due to packing an entire computer's hardware into a compact space. When your laptop heats up, it's programmed to scale back performance in order to reduce thermals. This is good...you don't want your gear to cook. But the downside is you lose performance when this happens.
You can have the two different laptops with the same specs, and due to the thermal solution, they could perform differently. Add in the fact that each laptop has its own wattage rating, and you can have wildly different levels of performance between similarly specced laptops.
Honestly, it's a nightmare for the common consumer. So it's up to us to set the record straight and help people understand. I'll post the details in a different comment since this one is long enough.
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Don't listen to the "last year's chassis" guy. Most laptop makers don't really even "make" their own laptops. Faceless tech companies will sell them the design. In this way it's possible that you get a laptop from one company that is internally similar to a laptop from another. Like if MSI and Lenovo bought their design from Quanta computer, then those laptops may be more closely related than you'd imagine.
What matters to you, the consumer? 1stly, the CPU and GPU chips, along with the RAM and storage. Secondly, (mostly for gamers) you need to consider wattage and cooling. You may think a 3080 beats a 3070, and you wouldn't be wrong to think that way. The issue is that if the 3080 is being underfed by low wattage, it may underperform vs the 3070.
Cooling is an issue too. Heat kills electronics. Laptops are a compromise solution to begin with, due to packing an entire computer's hardware into a compact space. When your laptop heats up, it's programmed to scale back performance in order to reduce thermals. This is good...you don't want your gear to cook. But the downside is you lose performance when this happens.
You can have the two different laptops with the same specs, and due to the thermal solution, they could perform differently. Add in the fact that each laptop has its own wattage rating, and you can have wildly different levels of performance between similarly specced laptops.
Honestly, it's a nightmare for the common consumer. So it's up to us to set the record straight and help people understand. I'll post the details in a different comment since this one is long enough.
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https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/la...0cto1wwus1
Other than Windows 11 is preloaded?
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/la...0cto1wwus1
Other than Windows 11 is preloaded?
AMD Ryzen 7 5800H Processor (3.20 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)
17.3" 1920 x 1080 144Hz 300nits IPS Display w/ Dolby Vision
16GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory
1TB PCIe Solid State Drive
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB Graphics
2x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2
4x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
1x HDMI
802.11AX (2 x 2) WiFi + Bluetooth 5.1
Windows 10 Home
VS:
https://slickdeals.net/f/15295447-msi-leopard-gp66-laptop-11th-gen-intel-core-i7-11800h-geforce-rtx-3070-140w-144hz-1080p-1499-99-costco
15.6" 1920x1080 Full HD 144Hz IPS display (non-touchscreen)
Intel Core i7-11800H Octa-Core (16 Thread) Processor
16GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM
1TB PCIe M.2 NVMe Solid State Drive
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB Graphics Card
Killer 802.11ax WiFi 6 (2x2), Bluetooth 5.2
Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (free Upgrade to Windows 11 when available)
Steel Series RGB Keyboard w/ Anti-Ghost Keys
Integrated 720p HD Webcam, 2x 2W Stereo Speakers
4-Cell 65Wh Li-Ion Battery
Weight: 5.25 lbs.
Ports:
3x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A
1x HDMI-Out
1x Mic-In/Headphone-Out Combo Jack
1-Year Manufacturer Warranty + Costco 2nd Year Warranty, Free Technical Support
The big question is which of these two deals should you go with? Costco's MSI, or Lenovo's, well, Lenovo. Both are similar specs and around the same price.
Size:
The Lenovo is bigger! At 17" it's more a desktop replacement than a portable gaming powerhouse. The bigger chassis does a lot of good things at the expense of the real estate on your desk. It's up to you personally with what you need.
CPUs:
The i7-11800H beats the Ryzen 7 5800H for gaming. It isn't a huge difference, but it's there. Ryzen's better for multi core processing tasks. They're both current-gen CPUs. Both are going to give you a great experience!
See this video for the nitty-gritty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iewhlo
GPUs:
https://psref.lenovo.co
It's the same GPU, but the question is about the wattage. If the above doc is right, then the Lenovo is a 130 watt part, which puts it line with high performing 3070s, such as the one in the MSI.
Screen:
They're both 1080p 144hz screens. A lot of people are crapping on the MSI, but keep in mind the size difference. 1080p at 17" is less pixel density than 1080p at 15".
Thermals:
I don't have graphs and numbers, but the intel CPU will run hotter. Also, the Lenovo is a larger laptop, so its chassis should allow for better heat dissipation. This is a good thing, if you want to deal with the larger size. Heat kills electronics, so the less heat the better.
RAM and storage:
They have the same capacity. I don't know what drives and sticks of RAM they've sourced for these models. This is something you can swap out though, if the stock options aren't that great. As for which SSD is faster, or which RAM has better speed, I'm not sure it matters. They probably aren't exactly the same, but I doubt it will be a performance difference you'll "feel."
Ports:
Lenovo has more ports. Again, bigger laptop, more stuff.
Price and Value:
Both are good deals, and I wouldn't put any stock in things getting better for Black Friday. If you want a system now, I wouldn't wait.
The Lenovo seems like it can be slightly cheaper, especially if you're a military member. But don't forget about Costco's 2 year warranty. But here again you need to be a Costco member to reap that benefit.
Both MSI and Lenovo have done shitty, shady things. I wouldn't put one's customer service ahead of the other. I personally had a bad experience with Lenovo gaming laptops back in 2014, but I realize that's just my anecdotal experience.
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I won't buy amd products. Not when Intel does things better. I always choose Intel over amd, kinda like apple to Android. Couldn't pay me to use windows.
Always buy the Intel variant
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