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Our research indicates that at the time of this post, that Creality CR-10 Smart 3D Printer is $180 lower (~37.6% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $479.
People saying CR-10s are bad printers have no idea what they're talking about or are Prusa shills. You'll get great print quality from a CR-10 out of the box.
Prusas are very expensive for hobbyists and aren't free from problems. Look up 3d printing forums. You'll see that, yes most prusas are good, but you'll also read about CR-10s reputation for good quality. Plus if you get the lower tier Prusa $800 model, you'll spend 8-12 hrs assembling it. CR-10 takes maybe 20 minutes. Not to mention the comparably tiny build volume of the Prusa compared to this.
If you don't have for tinkering? Then 3d printing won't be for you! You WILL spend countless hours printing, watching that print fail, looking up WHY the print failed, fixing YOUR mistake, resetting printer, start printing and wait until it almost finish for it to FAIL AGAIN. The repeat until you have THAT model 100% done.
Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
I bought one of these printers for full price of $499. One of bigger mistakes. Hard to get level and stay level, auto leveling is a joke. Built in wifi is used for their app only. When you're not fighting it, it prints very well
Wish I had gotten the Sidewinder X2 instead.
Cr10 smart has had a ton of user issues from being locked out of printer after starting wifi and logging into creality account, not being able to reset user account, some of these only ever want to use wifi since it was made to be uses mostly with creality cloud and the slicer on that.
I would stay away as its not as upgradable and user friendly as the rest of the cr10 models.
idk if some of those issues have had fixes but i do know quite a few from the print shops i work with to write firmware for and also help diagnose issues with, they did not like these and after a few months ended up getting refunds.
like most printers ymmv of course, but i am weary of this printer because of the changes it has, seems alot of things were locked down similar to the cr10 pro v2.
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Same, beginner is here. Is this any good for gentle introduction to 3D printing? Don't have extra time for tinkering.
If you don't have for tinkering? Then 3d printing won't be for you! You WILL spend countless hours printing, watching that print fail, looking up WHY the print failed, fixing YOUR mistake, resetting printer, start printing and wait until it almost finish for it to FAIL AGAIN. The repeat until you have THAT model 100% done.
Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
People saying CR-10s are bad printers have no idea what they're talking about or are Prusa shills. You'll get great print quality from a CR-10 out of the box.
Prusas are very expensive for hobbyists and aren't free from problems. Look up 3d printing forums. You'll see that, yes most prusas are good, but you'll also read about CR-10s reputation for good quality. Plus if you get the lower tier Prusa $800 model, you'll spend 8-12 hrs assembling it. CR-10 takes maybe 20 minutes. Not to mention the comparably tiny build volume of the Prusa compared to this.
I've had been using my PRusa I3 clone (DIY model) for 5 years until i finally bought something new...Ender 3. OUT OF THE BOX , after leveling, it's been printing near perfect for over a year. You're right, either he is a prusa fanboy, or sucks at printing.
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If you don't have for tinkering? Then 3d printing won't be for you! You WILL spend countless hours printing, watching that print fail, looking up WHY the print failed, fixing YOUR mistake, resetting printer, start printing and wait until it almost finish for it to FAIL AGAIN. The repeat until you have THAT model 100% done.
Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
You're exactly right. 3d printing is a hobby on its own. Even if a printer works great out of the box (which is doesn't really happen), you'll still need to spend a lot of time on maintenance and fixing issues. This machine is decent for a beginner, but not one who doesn't have the time to spend on it.
TL;DR get the Ender 3 v2 as a first for tinkering. Get the Prusa Mk3s/Mini+ as a first to just crank out part after part without tinkering.
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I'm gonna recommend that you stay away from the Creality printers and go for a Prusa instead. These printers are great for learning how to tinker with the machines - tweaking gcode, printing upgrades, installing new ends, etc. but if you need a workhorse that can just crank out part after part, you want something else.
Most FDM printers are capable of similar quality, the real challenge is getting to that quality and maintaining it. The Ender 3 is so popular because it can be tweaked to match machines that cost more than an order of magnitude more. But parts will break. Prints will fail. Upgrades will seem like downgrades. Great for learning, not great for production.
I know this is not the Ender 3, but I would argue that most Creality printers need more tinkering and certainly more maintenance to keep up with a Prusa.
The alternative to Creality cr10 is not Prusa ffs. Prusa is worse for tinkering. There are better printers out there like Craftbot but they come for a price.
For build volume this is a decent deal, I'd suggest the Ender 3 Max instead tho. I'm not a big fan on Creality's software and webui but it might have gotten better but I haven't used it for several months. I'm a huge fan of either Octopi or Reprap if you want a good UI.
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This is a good printer, just remember, learn how to level your machine manually. Tight belts and a rigid machine make all the difference in the world. To all the prusa comments, it should be better, this is 299$. I use a 175$ printer, no auto leveling, no runout sensor, and it works for my needs.
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New to 3D printing. Is this good for a beginner?
That's great for beginners. You will learn a lot from how it's designed, how it works and how to service it properly. It's a great model from Creality.
Good out of the box quality with a very minimum tune-up.
I bought an Ender 3 Pro and then later a Prusa Mini+. If you value your time at more than like $5-10 an hour, the Prusa Mini+ is a better buy hands down.
Plus, there are more fun ways to learn about 3D printing than fixing low cost gear built to the cheapest tolerances possible. I invested probably 20 hours of maintenance with the Ender and the quality STILL wasn't even in the same league as the Prusa. The Ender is still having adhesion issues. I could have spent 10 hours learning CAD and about using slicers instead, so I can design my own prints. To this day, the Creality slicer is utter garbage, and if you switch to PrusaSlicer or Cura, be prepared to try and figure out the right settings for a printer profile.
I had more great looking prints out of the Mini+ in the first weekend with it, more than I successfully printed after months with the Creality.
I think the Prusa Mini+ is by far the best beginner printer out there. If you value you time, trust me, you are getting what you pay for.
Glass bed and sugar water and you'll never have bed adhesion issues again. If you're having layer adhesion issues you have your nozzle temps wrong. Been using a Ender 3 to great effect for 2 years. My prints consistently come out more reliably and with greater detail than my friends with prusas.
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Prusas are very expensive for hobbyists and aren't free from problems. Look up 3d printing forums. You'll see that, yes most prusas are good, but you'll also read about CR-10s reputation for good quality. Plus if you get the lower tier Prusa $800 model, you'll spend 8-12 hrs assembling it. CR-10 takes maybe 20 minutes. Not to mention the comparably tiny build volume of the Prusa compared to this.
Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
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Wish I had gotten the Sidewinder X2 instead.
I would stay away as its not as upgradable and user friendly as the rest of the cr10 models.
idk if some of those issues have had fixes but i do know quite a few from the print shops i work with to write firmware for and also help diagnose issues with, they did not like these and after a few months ended up getting refunds.
like most printers ymmv of course, but i am weary of this printer because of the changes it has, seems alot of things were locked down similar to the cr10 pro v2.
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Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
Prusas are very expensive for hobbyists and aren't free from problems. Look up 3d printing forums. You'll see that, yes most prusas are good, but you'll also read about CR-10s reputation for good quality. Plus if you get the lower tier Prusa $800 model, you'll spend 8-12 hrs assembling it. CR-10 takes maybe 20 minutes. Not to mention the comparably tiny build volume of the Prusa compared to this.
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Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
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I'm gonna recommend that you stay away from the Creality printers and go for a Prusa instead. These printers are great for learning how to tinker with the machines - tweaking gcode, printing upgrades, installing new ends, etc. but if you need a workhorse that can just crank out part after part, you want something else.
Most FDM printers are capable of similar quality, the real challenge is getting to that quality and maintaining it. The Ender 3 is so popular because it can be tweaked to match machines that cost more than an order of magnitude more. But parts will break. Prints will fail. Upgrades will seem like downgrades. Great for learning, not great for production.
I know this is not the Ender 3, but I would argue that most Creality printers need more tinkering and certainly more maintenance to keep up with a Prusa.
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This is a great deal. Solid printer, easy to work on and upgrade, larger build volume.
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Good out of the box quality with a very minimum tune-up.
Plus, there are more fun ways to learn about 3D printing than fixing low cost gear built to the cheapest tolerances possible. I invested probably 20 hours of maintenance with the Ender and the quality STILL wasn't even in the same league as the Prusa. The Ender is still having adhesion issues. I could have spent 10 hours learning CAD and about using slicers instead, so I can design my own prints. To this day, the Creality slicer is utter garbage, and if you switch to PrusaSlicer or Cura, be prepared to try and figure out the right settings for a printer profile.
I had more great looking prints out of the Mini+ in the first weekend with it, more than I successfully printed after months with the Creality.
I think the Prusa Mini+ is by far the best beginner printer out there. If you value you time, trust me, you are getting what you pay for.
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