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No idea why anyone would spend $470 on an i9 11th gen when the i7 12th gen is better at everything across the board and cost $50 less brand new. Sure you can argue that you're doing it because you can't afford a Z690 board, but then you shouldn't be buying an i9 processor to begin with. Ya'll do you though.
On top of this the i9 10900K outperformed the i9 11900k everywhere it mattered too. 11th gen processors were a bust. Intel got beat up bad for years and now they climbed back on top with the 12th gen release. There is absolutely no reason to be building an 11th gen intel build in 2021 when the writing is on the wall that these aren't worth half this.
The i9-11900k is insanely fast, stable and power efficient. I've had it for about 2 months now and have run incredibly demanding programs on my computer, and the CPU has barely broken a sweat.
Gonna grab a second one, now.
No idea why anyone would spend $470 on an i9 11th gen when the i7 12th gen is better at everything across the board and cost $50 less brand new. Sure you can argue that you're doing it because you can't afford a Z690 board, but then you shouldn't be buying an i9 processor to begin with. Ya'll do you though.
On top of this the i9 10900K outperformed the i9 11900k everywhere it mattered too. 11th gen processors were a bust. Intel got beat up bad for years and now they climbed back on top with the 12th gen release. There is absolutely no reason to be building an 11th gen intel build in 2021 when the writing is on the wall that these aren't worth half this.
Yup it's like 7700k all over again, been backstabbing by 8800k with 50% core and threads with same price after just a year. 11th just so bad most people can simply skip and wait for 12/13 gen to begin new build.
Yup it's like 7700k all over again, been backstabbing by 8800k with 50% core and threads with same price after just a year. 11th just so bad most people can simply skip and wait for 12/13 gen to begin new build.
We all agree 11th is terribad, but overall, the price/ perf is not there for any Intel platform right now.
Add in the $50 extra electricity as cost of ownership, These processors should be discounted at least another $150.
Definitely wait for the smoke to clear this time around. AMD's also got something right around the corner.
I highly doubt Intel will sort out their power issues for at least 2 years.
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We all agree 11th is terribad, but overall, the price/ perf is not there for any Intel platform right now.
Add in the $50 extra electricity as cost of ownership, These processors should be discounted at least another $150.
Definitely wait for the smoke to clear this time around. AMD's also got something right around the corner.
I highly doubt Intel will sort out their power issues for at least 2 years.
You were mislead or simply looked at the 12900k peak power reviews.
Intel 12th gen is more power efficient in gaming and general use than AMD. And the 12600k and 12700k are more power efficient in productivity than their Zen 3 counterparts. Its only the 12900k at full 100% all-core load that is not efficient.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2...i5-12600k/
"with the 12600K it's no concern at all as the 12600K pushed total system usage 46% higher than the 5600X, but it also delivered 44% more performance, so in terms of efficiency they're about the same. The 12600K also matched the performance of the 5800X in this test, and we see total system usage to be roughly the same. So Alder Lake's power efficiency is better than we first thought."
As far as what AMD has to offer, Zen 4 wont release until Q4 2022, while 13th gen releases in Q3 2022. Zen 3D will exist for the 5900x and 5950x, but with a price increase, and only added cache, so power usage will go up, and 0-15% improvements (15% being best case) for some applications, so more or less, Zen 3D will only meet 12th gen's gaming performance at best.
Intel 12th gen is more power efficient in gaming and general use than AMD.
No it is not, you didn't even look at the efficiency graphs, Intel's chip is still lower Performance per Watt across the board. The way you measure power efficiency is not Time vs Power consumed, it's Calculations vs Power consumed. You've completely misinterpreted that benchmark. Maybe not your fault, since those are intel shill sites.
It's only better than 11900k , which was garbage (in power efficiency), and so is the 12th gen.
No it is not, you didn't even look at the efficiency graphs, Intel's chip is still lower Performance per Watt across the board. The way you measure power efficiency is not Time vs Power consumed, it's Calculations vs Power consumed. You've completely misinterpreted that benchmark. Maybe not your fault, since those are intel shill sites.
It's only better than 11900k , which was garbage (in power efficiency), and so is the 12th gen.
If you think Hardware Unboxed/techspot is an Intel-shill oof. They are notoriously biased towards AMD, which is why they dont even acknowledge DLSS/RTX/NVENC/CUDA as being reasons to buy Nvidia over a similar performing AMD GPU, and Igor blasts Intel all the time for their decisions.
Also you quoted me and completely ignored the part of the quote GAMING POWER PERFORMANCE, y'know the thing that most people will actually use these CPU's for, not everyone is rendering Pixar films at their house.
If you think Hardware Unboxed/techspot is an Intel-shill oof. They are notoriously biased towards AMD, which is why they dont even acknowledge DLSS/RTX/NVENC/CUDA as being reasons to buy Nvidia over a similar performing AMD GPU, and Igor blasts Intel all the time for their decisions.
Also you quoted me and completely ignored the part of the quote GAMING POWER PERFORMANCE, y'know the thing that most people will actually use these CPU's for, not everyone is rendering Pixar films at their house.
Only 1 problem, everything you said is wrong, as proven by actual measurements.
Don't change the subject, You said intel is more power efficient, they are not, you are blatantly incorrect.
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On top of this the i9 10900K outperformed the i9 11900k everywhere it mattered too. 11th gen processors were a bust. Intel got beat up bad for years and now they climbed back on top with the 12th gen release. There is absolutely no reason to be building an 11th gen intel build in 2021 when the writing is on the wall that these aren't worth half this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14h25f
Gonna grab a second one, now.
On top of this the i9 10900K outperformed the i9 11900k everywhere it mattered too. 11th gen processors were a bust. Intel got beat up bad for years and now they climbed back on top with the 12th gen release. There is absolutely no reason to be building an 11th gen intel build in 2021 when the writing is on the wall that these aren't worth half this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14h25f
Add in the $50 extra electricity as cost of ownership, These processors should be discounted at least another $150.
Definitely wait for the smoke to clear this time around. AMD's also got something right around the corner.
I highly doubt Intel will sort out their power issues for at least 2 years.
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Add in the $50 extra electricity as cost of ownership, These processors should be discounted at least another $150.
Definitely wait for the smoke to clear this time around. AMD's also got something right around the corner.
I highly doubt Intel will sort out their power issues for at least 2 years.
Intel 12th gen is more power efficient in gaming and general use than AMD. And the 12600k and 12700k are more power efficient in productivity than their Zen 3 counterparts. Its only the 12900k at full 100% all-core load that is not efficient.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...-part-1/9/
https://www.igorslab.de/wp-conten...x-Load.png
https://www.techspot.co
"with the 12600K it's no concern at all as the 12600K pushed total system usage 46% higher than the 5600X, but it also delivered 44% more performance, so in terms of efficiency they're about the same. The 12600K also matched the performance of the 5800X in this test, and we see total system usage to be roughly the same. So Alder Lake's power efficiency is better than we first thought."
As far as what AMD has to offer, Zen 4 wont release until Q4 2022, while 13th gen releases in Q3 2022. Zen 3D will exist for the 5900x and 5950x, but with a price increase, and only added cache, so power usage will go up, and 0-15% improvements (15% being best case) for some applications, so more or less, Zen 3D will only meet 12th gen's gaming performance at best.
Intel 12th gen is more power efficient in gaming and general use than AMD.
It's only better than 11900k , which was garbage (in power efficiency), and so is the 12th gen.
Go down to handbrake power efficiency graph.
https://imgur.com/WC2Rjve
https://www.tomshardwar
It's only better than 11900k , which was garbage (in power efficiency), and so is the 12th gen.
Go down to handbrake power efficiency graph.
https://imgur.com/WC2Rjve
https://www.tomshardware.com/news...ming-crown [tomshardware.com]
Also you quoted me and completely ignored the part of the quote GAMING POWER PERFORMANCE, y'know the thing that most people will actually use these CPU's for, not everyone is rendering Pixar films at their house.
Also you quoted me and completely ignored the part of the quote GAMING POWER PERFORMANCE, y'know the thing that most people will actually use these CPU's for, not everyone is rendering Pixar films at their house.
Don't change the subject, You said intel is more power efficient, they are not, you are blatantly incorrect.
https://imgur.com/WC2Rjve
https://www.tomshardwar
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