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12-04-2021 at 07:48 PM.
Wanted to post a usual note regarding the Z15 Bronze as these are a tricky category for anyone not familiar with, and specifically shopping for, these switches. Speed switches from Kailh are genuinely gaming focused by introducing a shorter actuation point about half that of traditional switches. Being Bronze tactile switches surely helps prevent unintended key presses, but be wary if you're just shopping for a general deal on a mechanical keyboard. The trap with Bronze tactile switches is that the actuation point comes before the tactile point (see details in a post from another thread). Contrast this with the standard-bearers in this space like the Cherry MX Blue[input.club] or Cherry MX Brown[input.club] (and most every other switch in this category, including the Gold version[input.club] of these Kailh Speed variety). This distinction could produce a very bad user experience for many tactile switch shoppers (which seems to have been the case in a highly rated post in another thread).
Just entered the market for a nice external keyboard last week when wife decided I need to clean up my desk. Willing to live with the limitations of the Bronze switches, as explained by The_Love_Spud (thanks so much for the information). Appreciate the deal notification.
The switches are hot swappable so you can always put your own switches in this keyboard after with no problem. I bought the version when it was on sale with the silver switches and put a few brown switches in where I wanted them. Also changed out the keycaps. A great keyboard for the price with this kind of customizability honestly. Keycaps and key switches can be bought fairly cheaply if you look around and $40 is a great starting point for anyone trying to get a full sized mechanical keyboard. The only complaint I have about this keyboard is the huge logo. That's just the aesthetics of it but other than that, it's a great and cheap keyboard
I just got the x15 on Black friday, coming from a g600. The layout for the sidebuttons on the x15 feel odd. Particularly, buttons 6,7,8. Overall the mouse feels nice, just wished the layout and size of the buttons on the side could be revised.
Looking to get simply a new keyboard for work? I don't PC game anymore. But my old logitech, compared to a newer one I tried at my office, seems to have slightly more resistance to key presses. Would this be a good or bad choice? Ive not used a mechanical keyboard before.
Looking to get simply a new keyboard for work? I don't PC game anymore. But my old logitech, compared to a newer one I tried at my office, seems to have slightly more resistance to key presses. Would this be a good or bad choice? Ive not used a mechanical keyboard before.
These switches, as mentioned earlier, are a very unusual variant where they "register" a keypress before the tactile bump happens. This isn't normal -- and although it's what some people like, it's not what most people expect.
I would say look into Keychron's C1 or C2 models -- Amazon sells them for less than Keychron's own website (when you factor in their shipping).
Why Keychon? They're very inexpensive for a wired TKL (tenkeyless) or Full size keyboard, give very solid quality at that price point, with several options (keyboard size, no backlight/white/color, switches, wired or wireless, etc -- stuff that might be several hundred with others is sub hundred with them)
They have three "flavors" of switches -- red (no bump, super smooth), brown (tactile bump), and blue (clickity clackity noisy actuation).
Personally, I think browns are a friendly entry into mech keyboards -- you get a tactile bump but you don't get the excessive noise of a clicky blue. I tend to rest my fingers on the keyboard, so red switches tend to actuate a bit sooner/easier than I'd like.
Don't worry about it too much. There's no "best" or "perfect". There are about a bajillion different switches -- different keyboard layouts -- keycap profiles -- keycap textures -- stems and casings -- lubing the switches -- stabilizers for larger keys -- and so on and on. It's a real money sink, and honestly, it all comes down to your preferences. What I love to use might be painfully unusable to the next person.
These switches, as mentioned earlier, are a very unusual variant where they "register" a keypress before the tactile bump happens. This isn't normal -- and although it's what some people like, it's not what most people expect.
I would say look into Keychron's C1 or C2 models -- Amazon sells them for less than Keychron's own website (when you factor in their shipping).
Why Keychon? They're very inexpensive for a wired TKL (tenkeyless) or Full size keyboard, give very solid quality at that price point, with several options (keyboard size, no backlight/white/color, switches, wired or wireless, etc -- stuff that might be several hundred with others is sub hundred with them)
They have three "flavors" of switches -- red (no bump, super smooth), brown (tactile bump), and blue (clickity clackity noisy actuation).
Personally, I think browns are a friendly entry into mech keyboards -- you get a tactile bump but you don't get the excessive noise of a clicky blue. I tend to rest my fingers on the keyboard, so red switches tend to actuate a bit sooner/easier than I'd like.
Don't worry about it too much. There's no "best" or "perfect". There are about a bajillion different switches -- different keyboard layouts -- keycap profiles -- keycap textures -- stems and casings -- lubing the switches -- stabilizers for larger keys -- and so on and on. It's a real money sink, and honestly, it all comes down to your preferences. What I love to use might be painfully unusable to the next person.
Anyone … What's a good but "inexpensive" tkl keyboard with "silent" keys, not just the switches, but when the key hits base it doesn't echo the whole frame. I bought a e-yoosoo brand with red switches and the switches are silent but the key presses still are noisy. Led backlit is desired, rgb is not necessary.
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No, the Z15 doesn't have USB pass-through.
Not bad for $30.
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I would say look into Keychron's C1 or C2 models -- Amazon sells them for less than Keychron's own website (when you factor in their shipping).
Why Keychon? They're very inexpensive for a wired TKL (tenkeyless) or Full size keyboard, give very solid quality at that price point, with several options (keyboard size, no backlight/white/color, switches, wired or wireless, etc -- stuff that might be several hundred with others is sub hundred with them)
They have three "flavors" of switches -- red (no bump, super smooth), brown (tactile bump), and blue (clickity clackity noisy actuation).
Personally, I think browns are a friendly entry into mech keyboards -- you get a tactile bump but you don't get the excessive noise of a clicky blue. I tend to rest my fingers on the keyboard, so red switches tend to actuate a bit sooner/easier than I'd like.
Don't worry about it too much. There's no "best" or "perfect". There are about a bajillion different switches -- different keyboard layouts -- keycap profiles -- keycap textures -- stems and casings -- lubing the switches -- stabilizers for larger keys -- and so on and on. It's a real money sink, and honestly, it all comes down to your preferences. What I love to use might be painfully unusable to the next person.
Looking to buy mainly for colors and effects for my 7 year old
I would say look into Keychron's C1 or C2 models -- Amazon sells them for less than Keychron's own website (when you factor in their shipping).
Why Keychon? They're very inexpensive for a wired TKL (tenkeyless) or Full size keyboard, give very solid quality at that price point, with several options (keyboard size, no backlight/white/color, switches, wired or wireless, etc -- stuff that might be several hundred with others is sub hundred with them)
They have three "flavors" of switches -- red (no bump, super smooth), brown (tactile bump), and blue (clickity clackity noisy actuation).
Personally, I think browns are a friendly entry into mech keyboards -- you get a tactile bump but you don't get the excessive noise of a clicky blue. I tend to rest my fingers on the keyboard, so red switches tend to actuate a bit sooner/easier than I'd like.
Don't worry about it too much. There's no "best" or "perfect". There are about a bajillion different switches -- different keyboard layouts -- keycap profiles -- keycap textures -- stems and casings -- lubing the switches -- stabilizers for larger keys -- and so on and on. It's a real money sink, and honestly, it all comes down to your preferences. What I love to use might be painfully unusable to the next person.
Anyone … What's a good but "inexpensive" tkl keyboard with "silent" keys, not just the switches, but when the key hits base it doesn't echo the whole frame. I bought a e-yoosoo brand with red switches and the switches are silent but the key presses still are noisy. Led backlit is desired, rgb is not necessary.
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Custo...732&sr=
...EDIT: ah, but arrives after Christmas
...EDIT: and reading the Newegg reviews this seems to have a design flaw with the scroll wheel leading to failure in a few months