I think the "international" label means it's made in China and is their low-end line
I might be a one-off but the J.A. international knife set I got is a big upgrade over my old set. Decent weight and balance, full tang, the plastic part isn't hollow and hold water from washing it like some of the cheaper sets do. I'm ok with stuff made from China if it is at least good quality and will last years.
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12-08-2021 at 03:13 PM.
Just know Henckels and Zwilling are two seperate companies/manufacture qualities.
Henckels is the 'entry level' brand.
Zwilling is the quality level brand.
I believe if it has one little guy on the product it's Henckels, and if it has two little guys on product it is Zwilling.
I believe Zwilling owns Zwilling, and Henckels, and some other brands as well (Staub, Miabi, which are awesome brands)
A lot of the Henckels stuff is complete overpriced trash (but not all?)
If it's Zwilling (good line) the product page might say "Zwilling Henckels" which is confusing. Why mention their lower end seperate brand if it was zwilling? I think they create confusion on purpose so people think Henckels is the same as Zwilling, so they will pay big prices for crappy Henckel stuff when they see it on shelves..
I'm not sure if "Zwilling Henckels" even means it's always Zwilling. Zwilling owns Henckels so it might mean product is Henckels (by Zwilling big company)
I see other products discriptions that read "Henckels" no mention of Zwilling. Presuably a no brainer it's henckels.
Knives -- only the 'Zwilling' brand is made in Germany. 'Henckels' are made in china or elsewhere.
Flatware - Both 'Zwilling' branded and 'Henckels' are never made in germany. Both are made in china or elsewhere. Zwilling flatware are still supposed to be the premium version of flatware, I think. But I've seen sets of both brands on same site at similar prices.
I've seen reviews for 'Henckel' 18/10 flatware saying they rusted out. 18/10 should never rust out (18/0 will) Was Henckels brand, but that tells me they have some people cheaping out on steel at some of their manufacturing plants, or contracting.
Everything is so confusing.
To make it even more confusing Zwilling has some awesome stuff. It's usually carries an obviously high price tag. Usually awesome, but also overpriced for something awesome.
Adding more confusion some 'Henckels' branded stuff seems good.
IN this deal it says 18/10, tri-clad pans. It looks good on paper. Note it's by Henckels, not premium zwilling brand but looks like it's not a trash product. Perhaps they are doing this to boost the henckels image?
The Zwilling/Henckels thing is so confusing.
I believe it's that way to get dumb (or just confused) people to pay big prices for all the trashy 'Henckels' junk they put in the market.
Has anyone figured this stuff out better than what I am seeing?
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12-08-2021 at 04:03 PM.
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Just know Henckels and Zwilling are two seperate companies/manufacture qualities.
Henckels is the 'entry level' brand.
Zwilling is the quality level brand.
I believe if it has one little guy on the product it's Henckels, and if it has two little guys on product it is Zwilling.
I believe Zwilling owns Zwilling, and Henckels, and some other brands as well (Staub, Miabi, which are awesome brands)
A lot of the Henckels stuff is complete overpriced trash (but not all?)
If it's Zwilling (good line) the product page might say "Zwilling Henckels" which is confusing. Why mention their lower end seperate brand if it was zwilling? I think they create confusion on purpose so people think Henckels is the same as Zwilling, so they will pay big prices for crappy Henckel stuff when they see it on shelves..
I'm not sure if "Zwilling Henckels" even means it's always Zwilling. Zwilling owns Henckels so it might mean product is Henckels (by Zwilling big company)
I see other products discriptions that read "Henckels" no mention of Zwilling. Presuably a no brainer it's henckels.
Knives -- only the 'Zwilling' brand is made in Germany. 'Henckels' are made in china or elsewhere.
Flatware - Both 'Zwilling' branded and 'Henckels' are never made in germany. Both are made in china or elsewhere. Zwilling flatware are still supposed to be the premium version of flatware, I think. But I've seen sets of both brands on same site at similar prices.
I've seen reviews for 'Henckel' 18/10 flatware saying they rusted out. 18/10 should never rust out (18/0 will) Was Henckels brand, but that tells me they have some people cheaping out on steel at some of their manufacturing plants, or contracting.
Everything is so confusing.
To make it even more confusing Zwilling has some awesome stuff. It's usually carries an obviously high price tag. Usually awesome, but also overpriced for something awesome.
Adding more confusion some 'Henckels' branded stuff seems good.
IN this deal it says 18/10, tri-clad pans. It looks good on paper. Note it's by Henckels, not premium zwilling brand but looks like it's not a trash product. Perhaps they are doing this to boost the henckels image?
The Zwilling/Henckels thing is so confusing.
I believe it's that way to get dumb (or just confused) people to pay big prices for all the trashy 'Henckels' junk they put in the market.
Has anyone figured this stuff out better than what I am seeing?
Actually, Zwilling (meaning twin) is the name of the company Peter Henckels founded in the early 1700s. Werhahn KG is the parent company of Zwilling and all of it's subsidiaries.
Though agreed, it can be very confusing to know what is what when it comes to Zwilling and Henckels. When it comes to knives, look for the logo, 2 dudes equals german made, 1 dude equals not german made.
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Even their Zwilling line of this set is made in China which is disappointing.
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So sorry for the interruption.
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Henckels is the 'entry level' brand.
Zwilling is the quality level brand.
I believe if it has one little guy on the product it's Henckels, and if it has two little guys on product it is Zwilling.
I believe Zwilling owns Zwilling, and Henckels, and some other brands as well (Staub, Miabi, which are awesome brands)
A lot of the Henckels stuff is complete overpriced trash (but not all?)
If it's Zwilling (good line) the product page might say "Zwilling Henckels" which is confusing. Why mention their lower end seperate brand if it was zwilling? I think they create confusion on purpose so people think Henckels is the same as Zwilling, so they will pay big prices for crappy Henckel stuff when they see it on shelves..
I'm not sure if "Zwilling Henckels" even means it's always Zwilling. Zwilling owns Henckels so it might mean product is Henckels (by Zwilling big company)
I see other products discriptions that read "Henckels" no mention of Zwilling. Presuably a no brainer it's henckels.
Knives -- only the 'Zwilling' brand is made in Germany. 'Henckels' are made in china or elsewhere.
Flatware - Both 'Zwilling' branded and 'Henckels' are never made in germany. Both are made in china or elsewhere. Zwilling flatware are still supposed to be the premium version of flatware, I think. But I've seen sets of both brands on same site at similar prices.
I've seen reviews for 'Henckel' 18/10 flatware saying they rusted out. 18/10 should never rust out (18/0 will) Was Henckels brand, but that tells me they have some people cheaping out on steel at some of their manufacturing plants, or contracting.
Everything is so confusing.
To make it even more confusing Zwilling has some awesome stuff. It's usually carries an obviously high price tag. Usually awesome, but also overpriced for something awesome.
Adding more confusion some 'Henckels' branded stuff seems good.
IN this deal it says 18/10, tri-clad pans. It looks good on paper. Note it's by Henckels, not premium zwilling brand but looks like it's not a trash product. Perhaps they are doing this to boost the henckels image?
The Zwilling/Henckels thing is so confusing.
I believe it's that way to get dumb (or just confused) people to pay big prices for all the trashy 'Henckels' junk they put in the market.
Has anyone figured this stuff out better than what I am seeing?
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank diamok
Henckels is the 'entry level' brand.
Zwilling is the quality level brand.
I believe if it has one little guy on the product it's Henckels, and if it has two little guys on product it is Zwilling.
I believe Zwilling owns Zwilling, and Henckels, and some other brands as well (Staub, Miabi, which are awesome brands)
A lot of the Henckels stuff is complete overpriced trash (but not all?)
If it's Zwilling (good line) the product page might say "Zwilling Henckels" which is confusing. Why mention their lower end seperate brand if it was zwilling? I think they create confusion on purpose so people think Henckels is the same as Zwilling, so they will pay big prices for crappy Henckel stuff when they see it on shelves..
I'm not sure if "Zwilling Henckels" even means it's always Zwilling. Zwilling owns Henckels so it might mean product is Henckels (by Zwilling big company)
I see other products discriptions that read "Henckels" no mention of Zwilling. Presuably a no brainer it's henckels.
Knives -- only the 'Zwilling' brand is made in Germany. 'Henckels' are made in china or elsewhere.
Flatware - Both 'Zwilling' branded and 'Henckels' are never made in germany. Both are made in china or elsewhere. Zwilling flatware are still supposed to be the premium version of flatware, I think. But I've seen sets of both brands on same site at similar prices.
I've seen reviews for 'Henckel' 18/10 flatware saying they rusted out. 18/10 should never rust out (18/0 will) Was Henckels brand, but that tells me they have some people cheaping out on steel at some of their manufacturing plants, or contracting.
Everything is so confusing.
To make it even more confusing Zwilling has some awesome stuff. It's usually carries an obviously high price tag. Usually awesome, but also overpriced for something awesome.
Adding more confusion some 'Henckels' branded stuff seems good.
IN this deal it says 18/10, tri-clad pans. It looks good on paper. Note it's by Henckels, not premium zwilling brand but looks like it's not a trash product. Perhaps they are doing this to boost the henckels image?
The Zwilling/Henckels thing is so confusing.
I believe it's that way to get dumb (or just confused) people to pay big prices for all the trashy 'Henckels' junk they put in the market.
Has anyone figured this stuff out better than what I am seeing?
Though agreed, it can be very confusing to know what is what when it comes to Zwilling and Henckels. When it comes to knives, look for the logo, 2 dudes equals german made, 1 dude equals not german made.
Cheers,
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6qt stockpot instead of 8qt
8in and 10in fry pan instead of 10in and 12in
And the other pots are on the small side too.
It's not a negative, just something to be aware of and plan for