expiredChityWok posted Jan 11, 2022 05:52 AM
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expiredChityWok posted Jan 11, 2022 05:52 AM
Gibson Les Paul Deluxe '70s Electric Guitar (Cherry Sunburst)
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Give it six months. More likely a year. Right now, EVERYTHING music .. pedals, amps, guitars ... everything is OVER .. THE .. RAINBOW expensive.
In addition, and keep in mind I play Gibson and Martin and nothing else, but Gibson .. has .. uh .. LOST THEIR MINDS. The CEO there wants to re-position the company as the Tesla or Maserati of guitars or something.
That ain't rock and roll. That's Doc Rock. Doctors who enjoy playing on the weekend.
Furthermore, please let me say this in the strongest possible terms I can express .. Gibson Ain't What She Used To Be. Get you an OLD Gibson .. and by old .. I mean .. Pre-1990.
Otherwise, the best "slickdeal" you can get on a Gibson guitar is ..
.. to buy an Epiphone.
I own no Epiphones so I do not have a dog in the fight. I own NINE Gibson guitars and probably .. oh, 70 Gibsons over 45 years.
I don't lay my hands across a Gibson today if it is new. It makes me want to cry. Something so excellent, so beautiful ... is gone.
Get an old one, hold on to it, sell it for twice what you paid in five years.
I have no alternative electric guitar I could point you to at this time. They are all junk from China and Malaysia and, God forbid, Korea. If you must buy a new electric, Epiphone is as close to an old Gibson as you are probably going to get.
But still, they feel cheap and they do not have the Gibson sound because of the pickups.
The greatest guitar I ever played in my life is a 1984 Gibson Flying V Designer Series. It hangs on the wall right there next to my Martins.
I've owned 13 Gibson Flying V's in my life.
No other guitar is even close.
That's my wisdom of 45 years of playing guitar professionally I can pass along.
I never post. I said this because I have vast and extensive knowledge on the subject matter.
And my opinion is the general consensus of all advanced guitar players today. All of them.
Right now is a pandemic and everybody is cooped up inside and prices are insane. INSANE.
Don't waste your money.
Epiphones are not in the same league, Frets for the most part are poorly done and rarely level, electrics and most pickups are subpar. Bodies and necks having multiple pieces (like 5 across the body) of wood glued together!! Ya do pay for what ya get. For the price not bad, but to compare against a Gibson, not even close. Have both brands and repair and set up all makes for people.
Also pre 1980, there was some horrid Gibson's made back then, pancake bodies, maple necks, was similar to the early 2000's but not near as bad. However they did do some Great ones in the era too. Don't get me wrong just pointing out not everything was perfect back in the day. Perhaps ya should (with open mind) go play a few of the new ones.
Not sure if you've ever checked out or played the Heritage Guitars? The H-150 is superior to the Gibson (today vs today). For those that don't know the Heritage story check it out on Youtube. Original Gibson Facility in Kalamazoo that a bunch of employees (some top level ones) didn't want to move to Memphis when Gibson changed manufacturing locations. They purchased the Plant and all the equipment and started their own version of Gibson Guitars. They make them still the old ways on the same equipment the famous 58-59-60 Les Paul's were done. Quality is Excellent and you get features on the H-150 (Les Paul equivalent) that are only available on the LP' Custom shop models, like long neck tenon, one piece (not 2) mahogany back etc.
Cheers
For anyone looking for one of these, is a great price.
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I got a sigma accoustic at gc which was a mf return, brandy new amazing about 15 yrs ago. hopefully same good stuff... one thing tracking said was 8# box, specs say 10# plus case has to be a 15# box at least.... I wrote that question on their site and the reply said contact them via phone....
My Epi is 7 years old and still solid. I always read good reviews of Epi LPs
I eventually and reluctantly moved to a Strat. I love LP look and sound but I could never get comfortable with the guitar. As I researched the LPs over the years, I realized old photos of Les Paul the musician usually showed him with his LP on his left leg. That position was consistent with his classical training. I found the guitar felt better on my left.
I realized my problem was a long torso (buying and measuring for backpacks led to that discovery). I'm only 6 ft tall but my leg inseam is like someone usually 5'10" and my torso is like someone usually 6' 2". This makes the LP seem smallish when sitting down. The Strat felt much better even though I like the LP sound more.
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Wait
Give it six months. More likely a year. Right now, EVERYTHING music .. pedals, amps, guitars ... everything is OVER .. THE .. RAINBOW expensive.
In addition, and keep in mind I play Gibson and Martin and nothing else, but Gibson .. has .. uh .. LOST THEIR MINDS. The CEO there wants to re-position the company as the Tesla or Maserati of guitars or something.
That ain't rock and roll. That's Doc Rock. Doctors who enjoy playing on the weekend.
Furthermore, please let me say this in the strongest possible terms I can express .. Gibson Ain't What She Used To Be. Get you an OLD Gibson .. and by old .. I mean .. Pre-1990.
Otherwise, the best "slickdeal" you can get on a Gibson guitar is ..
.. to buy an Epiphone.
I own no Epiphones so I do not have a dog in the fight. I own NINE Gibson guitars and probably .. oh, 70 Gibsons over 45 years.
I don't lay my hands across a Gibson today if it is new. It makes me want to cry. Something so excellent, so beautiful ... is gone.
Get an old one, hold on to it, sell it for twice what you paid in five years.
I have no alternative electric guitar I could point you to at this time. They are all junk from China and Malaysia and, God forbid, Korea. If you must buy a new electric, Epiphone is as close to an old Gibson as you are probably going to get.
But still, they feel cheap and they do not have the Gibson sound because of the pickups.
The greatest guitar I ever played in my life is a 1984 Gibson Flying V Designer Series. It hangs on the wall right there next to my Martins.
I've owned 13 Gibson Flying V's in my life.
No other guitar is even close.
That's my wisdom of 45 years of playing guitar professionally I can pass along.
I never post. I said this because I have vast and extensive knowledge on the subject matter.
And my opinion is the general consensus of all advanced guitar players today. All of them.
Right now is a pandemic and everybody is cooped up inside and prices are insane. INSANE.
Don't waste your money.
I will say that waiting for prices to go DOWN is bonkers. That's like waiting on the real estate market to go back down. Rising prices may slow down, but they ain't going back down.
I own vintage, new, high-end, low-end and everything in between. Gibson still puts out solid stuff if you get up to this price point. Most of the difference cork sniffers like this guy perceive between old and new is just that the older stuff is already broken in. I bought a 2018 LP Traditional, had the fretboard edges rolled for a hundred bucks, and now it feels really damn close to the $3000 stuff from the 80s.
That's not to say there aren't duds. Every guitar is a hair different. But at this price point it's fairly rare.
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Aren't 1970s (aka Norlin years) considered the worst years in Gibson's history? Why would anyone want a remake of a low-quality guitar?
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