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Gigabyte AORUS FV43U is $799.99 net ($899 less $100 mfgr rebate that expires 2/28) at Amazon as well as Newegg and B&H.

- 43" 3840x2160 Super Speed VA Display
- NVIDIA G-SYNC compatible, AMD FreeSync PremiumPro compatible
- 144Hz Refresh Rate, High Bit Rate 3 support (HBR3)
- 1 ms Response Time (MPRT)
- KVM Monitor
- 99% AdobeRGB, 10 bit color with 97% DCI-P3, 150% sRGB
- VESA Display HDR1000
- brightness 750 nits (typical), 1000 nits (peak)
- contrast 4,000:1
- introduced 4/28/21

IMO the best comps to this monitor are the Asus ROG Strix XG43UQ (currently $1,099 to $1,299) and the Acer CG437K (currently $999 to $1,349). I reviewed specs and pricing through 2/16 for all 43" monitors available from Amazon, Best Buy, Micro Center, Costco, Newegg, Staples, Office Depot, B&H, Dell.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...X0DER&th=1 Expired

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824716002

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...f9d6690INT OOS
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02-17-2022 at 09:37 AM.
02-17-2022 at 09:37 AM.
ah rebate.
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02-17-2022 at 10:26 AM.
02-17-2022 at 10:26 AM.
Doesn't look like the rebate is valid for Amazon.
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02-17-2022 at 12:45 PM.
02-17-2022 at 12:45 PM.
Quote from bpowers001 :
Gigabyte AORUS FV43U is $799 net ($899 less $100 mfgr rebate that expires 2/28) at Amazon as well as Newegg and B&H.

- 43" 3840x2160 Super Speed VA Display
- NVIDIA G-SYNC compatible, AMD FreeSync PremiumPro compatible
- 144Hz Refresh Rate, High Bit Rate 3 support (HBR3)
- 1 ms Response Time (MPRT)
- KVM Monitor
- 99% AdobeRGB, 10 bit color with 97% DCI-P3, 150% sRGB
- VESA Display HDR1000
- brightness 750 nits (typical), 1000 nits (peak)
- contrast 4,000:1
- introduced 4/28/21

IMO the best comps to this monitor are the Asus ROG Strix XG43UQ (currently $1,099 to $1,299) and the Acer CG437K (currently $999 to $1,349). I reviewed specs and pricing through 2/16 for all 43" monitors available from Amazon, Best Buy, Micro Center, Costco, Newegg, Staples, Office Depot, B&H, Dell.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...X0DER&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...X0DER&th=1
OP, do you have links for the rebate via Amazon. I am not seeing any.
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02-17-2022 at 01:03 PM.
02-17-2022 at 01:03 PM.
omg...am i actually witnessing competition in the monitor space...i don't think i've ever witnessed this before...

been using this 32" 144hz 1440p monitor for about 4 years now, and it's the same price right now than when i bought it.

qd-oled 34" and 42" wrgb oled must really be putting the pressure on manufacturers

i dont think they will continue making these. so once they sell out, they'll probably be gone forever.
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02-17-2022 at 03:59 PM.
02-17-2022 at 03:59 PM.
I purchased this monitor last year and I am loving it. If you don't like big monitors that are 43 inches, then I would avoid this. I don't have room for a second monitor but use a tablet below it, webcam is off to the side, but during work, I spread my windows out like papers on a coffee table.
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02-17-2022 at 04:30 PM.
02-17-2022 at 04:30 PM.
4k 144hz monitor? instant buy! OLED is nice but burn in still exists
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02-17-2022 at 06:28 PM.
02-17-2022 at 06:28 PM.
Quote from kristofen :
OLED burn-in? Now tell me about Santa clause and the easter Bunny.

4k and 144hz matters none when it's VA.
You don't believe OLED screens have burn-in?
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02-17-2022 at 06:33 PM.
02-17-2022 at 06:33 PM.
Quote from kristofen :
OLED burn-in? Now tell me about Santa clause and the easter Bunny.

4k and 144hz matters none when it's VA.
what's va?

I'm considering the LC C1 OLED (120hz) vs. this one
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02-17-2022 at 06:54 PM.
02-17-2022 at 06:54 PM.
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what's va?

I'm considering the LC C1 OLED (120hz) vs. this one

The LG C1 is amazing. Worth every penny.
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02-17-2022 at 09:55 PM.
02-17-2022 at 09:55 PM.
FWIW I personally found 43" a bit awkward for 4k native resolution. The problem I ran into was that to make small website legible, I had to keep it a certain distance from me, but a few inches too close in that you're moving your head around a lot to see the entirety of the screen.

I always told myself if I ever went 4k again to run at native, then 50" -55" would be better to allow larger text while still being able to keep the monitor at a distance so my necks always not swiveling or eyes burning from monitor light.
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02-18-2022 at 04:31 AM.
02-18-2022 at 04:31 AM.
Quote from wuss :
FWIW I personally found 43" a bit awkward for 4k native resolution. The problem I ran into was that to make small website legible, I had to keep it a certain distance from me, but a few inches too close in that you're moving your head around a lot to see the entirety of the screen.

I always told myself if I ever went 4k again to run at native, then 50" -55" would be better to allow larger text while still being able to keep the monitor at a distance so my necks always not swiveling or eyes burning from monitor light.

Just scale windows and chrome and you won't have this issue.
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02-18-2022 at 05:59 AM.
02-18-2022 at 05:59 AM.
This is pretty neat but the price is still a bit high imo considering you could get a CX oled for $900 at one point and the C1 for like $1200.

From what I've read LG reserves the top 25% of the brightness range, outside of user brightness, for the wear evening routine. So if you use it as a static desktop monitor you are more likely to burn through that buffer sooner. It's been compared to a candle burning down it's wax, or millions of candles I guess.

That buffer wear down can be mitigated by taking some settings precautions. For example, linus not only drove his oled for desktop/apps at high brightness but from his burn in video it looked like he kept apps open constantly with a giant cross of brightly colored window frames from quad window usage. It also looked like he ran large bright white app backgrounds instead of forcing dark themes and probably wasn't using browser plugins (like "color changer", "turn off the lights", etc.) to save adjustments for commonly visited aggressively bright pages. There are some other things you can do as precautions or wear-alleviation in windows and the TV OSD too and across different named settings. Outside of those, one mechanic that I don't think everyone (outside of regulars in threads like these) is aware of or bothers to use the "Turn 'off' the Screen" trick when afk either. The 'turn off the screen' command via microphone or quick menu leaves the screen active on the computer/in the monitor array with everything running on it but it turns off the OLED emitters (without going into standby) until you are back at the screen giving it face time. That saves a lot of wasted and static (e.g. paused or idle game or video) burn time when you aren't actively looking at the screen and it conveniently leaves your paused game or running app active including sound unless you mute it, as well as not dropping the monitor out of windows or a multi monitor array which would be a pita.

Burn in mitigation/avoidance tech:

all white oled array with a single clear/white subpixel to "cheat" higher brightness levels at lower oled energy/heat than it would normally be to display that color level

Logo luminance/brightness identification and lowering tech

ABL and ABSL reflexive brightness limiters

Pixel shifting tech

Various named settings for different usage scenarios. (you can customize settings for cinema, APS, etc. to lower or higher brightness depending what you are doing/watching).

Wear-evening routine

"Turn off the lights" when idle/away/not giving the screen face time. ("Turn off the screen" command from microphone or 2 presses on remote using quick menu).

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. So it's unlikely that you will get burn in , or to burn through your 25% buffer, for years unless you are turning off the protections and abusing the screen.

That said, I only use my 48CX as a media and gaming "stage" and I keep screen(s) on the side(s) for static desktop/apps. My side screens are ~6200:1 contrast, 60hz VA side screens. I don't really need the high hz for desktop/apps as much so it's not missed there.

There are people with OLEDs going on 4 - 5 years even without some of the burn-in avoidance features that have no burn in.


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https://www.rtings.com/monitor/re...orus-fv43u

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Unfortunately, although the Gigabyte FV43U has a local dimming feature, it's terrible. It's direct-lit, which is great, but it appears to have only about eight zones in a 4x2 grid, so it can't dim tightly around smaller objects. The large zones also result in very noticeable transitions, but the algorithms aren't very sensitive, so there's often a delay before the backlight switches on in a zone that was previously off. There doesn't appear to be any black crush, which is good. Small bright highlights, like in a starfield, aren't usually bright enough to trigger the full zone, meaning they're dimmed considerably but still visible. Larger, brighter objects have significant blooming in some scenes, including if you have a lot of subtitles on the screen.

The local dimming feature is available in every Picture Mode, except for the sRGB mode. In HDR, it's enabled by default and can't be disabled in 'HDR1000'. There's only one local dimming mode; it's either 'Off' or on 'Auto'. Enabling it locks the brightness and dynamic contrast settings.
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02-18-2022 at 06:15 AM.
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Quote from wuss :
FWIW I personally found 43" a bit awkward for 4k native resolution. The problem I ran into was that to make small website legible, I had to keep it a certain distance from me, but a few inches too close in that you're moving your head around a lot to see the entirety of the screen.

I always told myself if I ever went 4k again to run at native, then 50" -55" would be better to allow larger text while still being able to keep the monitor at a distance so my necks always not swiveling or eyes burning from monitor light.
The perceived pixel density and viewing angle of a screen are completely relative to your viewing distance.

The PPD of a 48" 4k viewed at 33.5" to your eyeballs is exactly the same as a 43" 4k viewed at 30" and is exactly the same as a 27" 4k at 1.5'.
Any closer than that and text subsampling and graphics aliasing is going to be poorer than normal.
The viewing angles are also the same at those distances.

33.5" distance on a 48" 4k = 1.5" distance on a 27" 4k = 60 PPD.

I sit 38" to 48" away from my 48" CX which is 72 to 81.5 PPD so I am getting in effect a higher pixel density than a 27" 4k at 1.5' viewing distance.

20/20 vision "threshold" of 60 PPD starts at (meaning no closer than)
33.5" viewing distance and 64 degree viewing angle for a 48" 16:9 4k screen (and starts at ~1.5' on a 27" 4k)

Sitting any closer will be much poorer text and aliasing. You can try to compensate with aggressive AA and try to tweak subpixel sampling on text but it's still not optimal.

While
33.5" - 60 PPD - 64deg is the nearest you can sit while still within the 20/20 vision "threshold" (that level of pixel structure aggressiveness where fairly aggressive AA and text subsampling are still able to compensate enough), personally I think what's best for a 48" screen is:

38" -- 41" - 44.4" - 48" view distance
66.6 - 72 -- 76 - -- 81.5 PPD
58 - - 54 -- 50 --- 47 degree horizontal viewing angle


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Mostly from my replies earlier in a thread when the 42" LG OLED was hinted at:


That 42" screen should be a little more manageable for some people but it's not that huge of a difference viewing distance wise vs PPD at the nearer 60 PPD end. It's still an appreciable difference of 6" at 80PPD where you are more or less sitting the same distance away as the screen's diagonal measurement.

60 PPD on a 42" 4k screen = 29.3"
60 PPD on a 43" 4k screen = 30"
60 PPD on a 48" 4k screen = 33.5"

80 PPD on a 42" 4k screen = 41.1"
80 PPD on a 43" 4k screen = ~ 42"
80 PPD on a 48" 4k screen = 47"

These aren't sized suitably for use as up against the wall like a bookshelf / player~upright piano style desk setups. This kind of size demands more of a command center setup.
If you aren't sitting at least that far away, your text will look like crap just like a 32" 1440p up close or a 37" 1080p. You will get graphics aliasing and text fringing that no amount of text subsampling tweaking will be able to compensate enough for.
If you sit the appropriate distances away, text and overall pixel structure will look fine once AA and text subsampling are utilized. The viewing angle also gets better viewed at a distance nearing the screen's diagonal measurement to get ~ 45 deg - 50 deg


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So a size change from 48" to 42" wouldn't make much difference to my setup. I'd be more interested in what a curved one would bring to the table but that samnsung one rumored on HDTVTEST is 34" ultrawide so would be way too small for my setup and my liking at ~13" tall.

31.5" 4k 16:9 is ~ 15.5" tall which is better for nearer setups imo (~80 PPD/70PPD/60PPD at 31.8"/26.5"/22" view distance), .
48" is ~ 23" - 23.5" tall.
43" is ~ 21"
42" is ~ 20.5" tall.


The 42" could be priced better and/or affect the pricing of the 48" ones though, and if the weight is very light that would be a good improvement.

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WOLED may contribute to text issues like others have said but if you are sitting closer than the 20/20 vision threshold/pixel grid agression level your text/subsampling and graphics aliasing are going to be bad regardless to start with - requiring more aggressive attempts at cleartype work arounds and more aggressive AA in games just attempting to get back to what you'd be seeing at 33.5" to 48" away .

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Looking around to other windows isn't a big deal (at least left to right while the vertical remains within reason), just like using multiple monitors - you don't need to be looking at everything at the same time. For media and gaming this is a big issue though which is why you should try to keep a media/gaming panel in the 45deg - 55deg viewing angle range. When you sit approaching the same distance away as the screen's diagonal on a 4k screen you end up with a more or less equilateral triangle or cone viewing angle.
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