This is the first time we've seen this unit available at this direct price drop (w/o gift cards attached to the deal/etc.); this model typically hovers above $2200+
This product is highly reviewed as an upper-mid range TV through Sony's 2021 lineup
Additional retailers not listed may have this product at the same price/price range
Offer valid while promotion/pricing last
Additional Notes
This product is highly rated by customers for Picture, Color & Setup
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated
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This is the first time we've seen this unit available at this direct price drop (w/o gift cards attached to the deal/etc.); this model typically hovers above $2200+
This product is highly reviewed as an upper-mid range TV through Sony's 2021 lineup
Additional retailers not listed may have this product at the same price/price range
Offer valid while promotion/pricing last
Additional Notes
This product is highly rated by customers for Picture, Color & Setup
Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated
Model: Sony X91J 85” Class 4K HDR Full Array LED With Google TV KD85X91J
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Relevant gaming details below taken from the review here[rtings.com].
Display:
Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 1440p @ 120Hz PS5 can't do 1440p
PS5, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, Variable Refresh Rate No
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 1440p @ 120Hz No
Xbox Series X, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, Variable Refresh Rate No
Update 01/28/2022: We investigated a reported issue with micro-stutter when gaming on the PS5. We tried to reproduce the issue with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War and Astro's Playroom, but we weren't able to.
The Sony X91CJ supports most common signals from the PS5 and Xbox Series X, but it's not without issues. First, if you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you're limited to 4k @ 60Hz. You either have to set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format' for 4k @ 120Hz signals, or to 'Enhanced Format (Dolby Vision)', which limits it to 4k @ 60Hz signals, as you can see in the Xbox menu. Although the Xbox says that the TV supports VRR when you set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format (VRR)', we're still considering it 'No' because VRR doesn't work.
We confirmed that ALLM works because the TV switched into Game Mode when we launched Destiny 2 on the Xbox Series X. However, like the Sony X900H, we experienced resolution issues with Destiny 2 where it would display 3840x1080 and the rectangle around the 'Open Director' in the menu flashes between white and gray. You can see an example of this from the X900H here.
Input Lag:
1080p @ 60Hz 16.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.7 ms
1440p @ 60Hz 15.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR 15.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation 87.4 ms
8k @ 60Hz N/A
1080p @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1440p @ 120Hz 7.1 ms
4k @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate N/A
1440p with VRR N/A
4k with VRR N/A
8k with VRR N/A
The Sony KD85X91CJ has objectively low input lag, but it's higher than some other TVs, like the Samsung QN90A QLED. Still, it's fine for most gamers. Unless specified, we measure it all in the 'Game' Picture Mode, but the 4k @ 60Hz with chroma 4:4:4 input lag was measured in 'Graphics' mode instead.
Although VRR isn't working properly, we also measured the input lag with the VRR setting enabled. We measured 15.8 ms for 1080p @ 120Hz with VRR and 9.4 ms in 4k @ 120Hz, but since we don't consider the VRR to be functional, we aren't including these numbers in the results.
Variable Refresh Rate:
Native Refresh Rate 120 Hz
Variable Refresh Rate No
HDMI Forum VRR No
FreeSync No
G-SYNC Compatible No
4k VRR Maximum N/A
4k VRR Minimum No VRR support
1080p VRR Maximum N/A
1080p VRR Minimum No VRR support
1440p VRR Maximum N/A
1440p VRR Minimum No VRR support
VRR Supported Connectors No VRR support
At the time of testing, the variable refresh rate support on the Sony X91J doesn't work. There's a VRR setting, but unlike the Sony X900H, it doesn't reduce screen tearing. *Sony is implementing VRR support through firmware updates, and they've said it'll take two updates by the end of 2021 for VRR to be fully functional, so we'll retest the TV once the second update comes out. We tried the pendulum test pattern with our RTX 3070, RX580, RX6600, and RX6800 graphics cards, and there was always screen tearing. We also checked in Destiny 2 with our RX6600 card, and there's still screen tearing.
*We're obviously past 2021 but I checked Sony's website and the X91J is still planning firmware updates for VRR.
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For the record, I have the 900h. It looks and plays fantastic. The brights are exceptional and I've had no issue with input lag which is a big one for me. If you're a ranked FPS player your opinion might be different. The only disadvantage would be the reportedly non-functioning VRR for X91J.
Costco still sells Sony. Was gonna post Costco's version of this, but they're still doing their Monday update. The 85X91CJ will be this same $1999.99... as listed on the Costco homepage. https://www.costco.com/
Also showing $2399 for me. This or wait for 75 inch X95J to get to around $2k? For a basement theater room with no windows and 12 feet viewing distance.
I can't compare to 900h since I didn't own one. I have had for a couple of months. For the size it is fine. Good colors and bright enough for me, I have sliding glass doors on one side. I do like to watch NFL OTA. It has support for the new ATSC 3.0 standard. So, depending on where you are located, you can get 1080p picture over the air instead of the overly compressed signal from cable.
Last edited by habano123 February 28, 2022 at 10:33 AM.
I've had this for a couple of months. Size is great, though a bit "thicc.". Google TV works better than Android TV on my old x900E -- processing is good enough- smooth and responsive UI- that I do not need my nvidia Shield for this TV. It runs Plex and other apps just fine. It's bright enough for most rooms and reflections are okay. 4K 120hz on PS5.
My only real complaint is that there is significant blooming when white/light elements are alone on a dark background. With 85 inches, those local dimming zones are spread out over a wide area. It's not noticeable in most content though and as a value play I can forgive it.
I'm looking at the qn90a 85". Trying to figure out if it's worth the extra $1300 lol
I mean obviously you can't really go wrong, the interwebs consensus is to get the QN90A (unless you want OLED,then get the C1 but OLED wasn't an option for me). The picture is obviously amazing and loving Elden Ring on it but man the price tag hurts! lol
Last edited by sinurgy February 28, 2022 at 10:42 AM.
Also showing $2399 for me. This or wait for 75 inch X95J to get to around $2k? For a basement theater room with no windows and 12 feet viewing distance.
I compared with naked eye at Costco and BB. At first glance, QN85 almost seemed like an OLED and I didn't get the same feeling with X91J. TBH, I never owned a Sony and was finding reasons to get one. If X91J had XR processor, I probably would've. My budget is 2K and hoping QN85 will drop to $2,200 some point this year.
Costco still sells Sony. Was gonna post Costco's version of this, but they're still doing their Monday update. The 85X91CJ will be this same $1999.99... as listed on the Costco homepage. https://www.costco.com/
Costco has it for same price too now
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This probably seems like a silly question but does anybody know how it compares to a Sony x900A or x900b? I've currently have these and honestly the picture quality is still really good. Granted this is 20inch bigger but I'm curious how good have these higher end models gotten compared to the flagship from 8 years ago?
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Relevant gaming details below taken from the review here [rtings.com].
Display:
Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 1440p @ 120Hz PS5 can't do 1440p
PS5, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, Variable Refresh Rate No
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 1440p @ 120Hz No
Xbox Series X, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, Variable Refresh Rate No
Update 01/28/2022: We investigated a reported issue with micro-stutter when gaming on the PS5. We tried to reproduce the issue with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War and Astro's Playroom, but we weren't able to.
The Sony X91CJ supports most common signals from the PS5 and Xbox Series X, but it's not without issues. First, if you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you're limited to 4k @ 60Hz. You either have to set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format' for 4k @ 120Hz signals, or to 'Enhanced Format (Dolby Vision)', which limits it to 4k @ 60Hz signals, as you can see in the Xbox menu. Although the Xbox says that the TV supports VRR when you set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format (VRR)', we're still considering it 'No' because VRR doesn't work.
We confirmed that ALLM works because the TV switched into Game Mode when we launched Destiny 2 on the Xbox Series X. However, like the Sony X900H, we experienced resolution issues with Destiny 2 where it would display 3840x1080 and the rectangle around the 'Open Director' in the menu flashes between white and gray. You can see an example of this from the X900H here.
Input Lag:
1080p @ 60Hz 16.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.7 ms
1440p @ 60Hz 15.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR 15.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation 87.4 ms
8k @ 60Hz N/A
1080p @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1440p @ 120Hz 7.1 ms
4k @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate N/A
1440p with VRR N/A
4k with VRR N/A
8k with VRR N/A
The Sony KD85X91CJ has objectively low input lag, but it's higher than some other TVs, like the Samsung QN90A QLED. Still, it's fine for most gamers. Unless specified, we measure it all in the 'Game' Picture Mode, but the 4k @ 60Hz with chroma 4:4:4 input lag was measured in 'Graphics' mode instead.
Although VRR isn't working properly, we also measured the input lag with the VRR setting enabled. We measured 15.8 ms for 1080p @ 120Hz with VRR and 9.4 ms in 4k @ 120Hz, but since we don't consider the VRR to be functional, we aren't including these numbers in the results.
Variable Refresh Rate:
Native Refresh Rate 120 Hz
Variable Refresh Rate No
HDMI Forum VRR No
FreeSync No
G-SYNC Compatible No
4k VRR Maximum N/A
4k VRR Minimum No VRR support
1080p VRR Maximum N/A
1080p VRR Minimum No VRR support
1440p VRR Maximum N/A
1440p VRR Minimum No VRR support
VRR Supported Connectors No VRR support
At the time of testing, the variable refresh rate support on the Sony X91J doesn't work. There's a VRR setting, but unlike the Sony X900H, it doesn't reduce screen tearing. *Sony is implementing VRR support through firmware updates, and they've said it'll take two updates by the end of 2021 for VRR to be fully functional, so we'll retest the TV once the second update comes out. We tried the pendulum test pattern with our RTX 3070, RX580, RX6600, and RX6800 graphics cards, and there was always screen tearing. We also checked in Destiny 2 with our RX6600 card, and there's still screen tearing.
*We're obviously past 2021 but I checked Sony's website and the X91J is still planning firmware updates for VRR.
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For the record, I have the 900h. It looks and plays fantastic. The brights are exceptional and I've had no issue with input lag which is a big one for me. If you're a ranked FPS player your opinion might be different. The only disadvantage would be the reportedly non-functioning VRR for X91J.
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My only real complaint is that there is significant blooming when white/light elements are alone on a dark background. With 85 inches, those local dimming zones are spread out over a wide area. It's not noticeable in most content though and as a value play I can forgive it.
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i bought it 2 months ago...very happy with it...TV is awesome for the price...
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