This is the first time we've seen this unit available at this direct price drop (w/o gift cards attached to the deal/etc.); this model typically hovers above $2200+
This product is highly reviewed as an upper-mid range TV through Sony's 2021 lineup
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This is the first time we've seen this unit available at this direct price drop (w/o gift cards attached to the deal/etc.); this model typically hovers above $2200+
This product is highly reviewed as an upper-mid range TV through Sony's 2021 lineup
Additional retailers not listed may have this product at the same price/price range
Offer valid while promotion/pricing last
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Model: Sony X91J 85” Class 4K HDR Full Array LED With Google TV KD85X91J
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Relevant gaming details below taken from the review here[rtings.com].
Display:
Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 1440p @ 120Hz PS5 can't do 1440p
PS5, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, Variable Refresh Rate No
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 1440p @ 120Hz No
Xbox Series X, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, Variable Refresh Rate No
Update 01/28/2022: We investigated a reported issue with micro-stutter when gaming on the PS5. We tried to reproduce the issue with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War and Astro's Playroom, but we weren't able to.
The Sony X91CJ supports most common signals from the PS5 and Xbox Series X, but it's not without issues. First, if you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you're limited to 4k @ 60Hz. You either have to set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format' for 4k @ 120Hz signals, or to 'Enhanced Format (Dolby Vision)', which limits it to 4k @ 60Hz signals, as you can see in the Xbox menu. Although the Xbox says that the TV supports VRR when you set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format (VRR)', we're still considering it 'No' because VRR doesn't work.
We confirmed that ALLM works because the TV switched into Game Mode when we launched Destiny 2 on the Xbox Series X. However, like the Sony X900H, we experienced resolution issues with Destiny 2 where it would display 3840x1080 and the rectangle around the 'Open Director' in the menu flashes between white and gray. You can see an example of this from the X900H here.
Input Lag:
1080p @ 60Hz 16.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.7 ms
1440p @ 60Hz 15.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR 15.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation 87.4 ms
8k @ 60Hz N/A
1080p @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1440p @ 120Hz 7.1 ms
4k @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate N/A
1440p with VRR N/A
4k with VRR N/A
8k with VRR N/A
The Sony KD85X91CJ has objectively low input lag, but it's higher than some other TVs, like the Samsung QN90A QLED. Still, it's fine for most gamers. Unless specified, we measure it all in the 'Game' Picture Mode, but the 4k @ 60Hz with chroma 4:4:4 input lag was measured in 'Graphics' mode instead.
Although VRR isn't working properly, we also measured the input lag with the VRR setting enabled. We measured 15.8 ms for 1080p @ 120Hz with VRR and 9.4 ms in 4k @ 120Hz, but since we don't consider the VRR to be functional, we aren't including these numbers in the results.
Variable Refresh Rate:
Native Refresh Rate 120 Hz
Variable Refresh Rate No
HDMI Forum VRR No
FreeSync No
G-SYNC Compatible No
4k VRR Maximum N/A
4k VRR Minimum No VRR support
1080p VRR Maximum N/A
1080p VRR Minimum No VRR support
1440p VRR Maximum N/A
1440p VRR Minimum No VRR support
VRR Supported Connectors No VRR support
At the time of testing, the variable refresh rate support on the Sony X91J doesn't work. There's a VRR setting, but unlike the Sony X900H, it doesn't reduce screen tearing. *Sony is implementing VRR support through firmware updates, and they've said it'll take two updates by the end of 2021 for VRR to be fully functional, so we'll retest the TV once the second update comes out. We tried the pendulum test pattern with our RTX 3070, RX580, RX6600, and RX6800 graphics cards, and there was always screen tearing. We also checked in Destiny 2 with our RX6600 card, and there's still screen tearing.
*We're obviously past 2021 but I checked Sony's website and the X91J is still planning firmware updates for VRR.
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For the record, I have the 900h. It looks and plays fantastic. The brights are exceptional and I've had no issue with input lag which is a big one for me. If you're a ranked FPS player your opinion might be different. The only disadvantage would be the reportedly non-functioning VRR for X91J.
Costco still sells Sony. Was gonna post Costco's version of this, but they're still doing their Monday update. The 85X91CJ will be this same $1999.99... as listed on the Costco homepage. https://www.costco.com/
As for thinking its all about zones..yes and no
The X940E he cited has significant motion issues and rtings.com actually thought the edge lit X930E was a better set
from their review "The Sony X930E is a bit better than the Sony X940E. The X940E has a more advanced full array local dimming feature and better black uniformity, so it performs better in a dark room. The X940E has a better black frame insertion feature to help clear up motion, but the X930E has a much better response time, so motion is smoother overall and has much less blur trail. The X930E is brighter with SDR and HDR content."
85in and 100lbs only?! what kind of quality cheap tv is this?! explains why it has paltry 40 dimming zones at least
Poor man's premium tv
I read the other comments pointing out the deficiencies. I don't doubt they're correct. Honestly though, I think like a poor man so to me this is a premium TV. It's why I still have money in the bank and do almost all my big item shopping through slickdeals.
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I read the other comments pointing out the deficiencies. I don't doubt they're correct. Honestly though, I think like a poor man so to me this is a premium TV. It's why I still have money in the bank and do almost all my big item shopping through slickdeals.
Poor man thinker here as well. However this tv is an insult. They simply took everything from the prior years model and changed the model number from the x900h. No improvements were implemented at all unlike the x90j that at least got the cognitive processor.
This should drop to an in store price of 1599 in the coming months and continue to drop until they're completely sold out. Just search up x90ch on slickdeals for proof.
At this point I'd rather wait til the x90k 2022 model premieres and snag it during spring 2023.
Poor man thinker here as well. However this tv is an insult. They simply took everything from the prior years model and changed the model number from the x900h. No improvements were implemented at all unlike the x90j that at least got the cognitive processor.
This should drop to an in store price of 1599 in the coming months and continue to drop until they're completely sold out. Just search up x90ch on slickdeals for proof.
At this point I'd rather wait til the x90k 2022 model premieres and snag it during spring 2023.
They cheated with this model.
If $1,599 would you recommend this TV at that low of a price or still wait for 2022 models? Thanks!
If $1,599 would you recommend this TV at that low of a price or still wait for 2022 models? Thanks!
I think it would be worth it at that price point. That would be an in store price. So I'd call your local stores and ask for a price and quantity before I'd head down.
Search Slickdeals for x90ch to get an idea of when to start checking stores.
I'm speculating that once the new models hit the floor they'll start clearing these out aggressively.
Bought this 2 weeks ago for $2,199.00 with the warranty as well. It's setup and I'm pretty happy with it, but submitted a request for price adjustment. In theory I should get it, says within 30 days you can, if they say no, considering going though the trouble of buying it and returning it with other receipt. For $200 worth calling in a favor from a friend with a truck.
If anyone else is in the same boat as me, you can find the price adjust form on Costco.com, by going to the bellow link, make sure you are logged in (maybe, not sure it's important), and on the left is a bunch of icons and one says price adjustment.
Edit: Someone mentioned they tried the same thing last year and the Costco forms didn't ever go though and they had to just call customer service. Going to do that today because I've gotten no feedback 24 hours later.
Same thing here, I may just buy it and walk outside with it then come right back and say give me a refund on my online order lol
Poor man thinker here as well. However this tv is an insult. They simply took everything from the prior years model and changed the model number from the x900h. No improvements were implemented at all unlike the x90j that at least got the cognitive processor.
This should drop to an in store price of 1599 in the coming months and continue to drop until they're completely sold out. Just search up x90ch on slickdeals for proof.
At this point I'd rather wait til the x90k 2022 model premieres and snag it during spring 2023.
They cheated with this model.
The X90CH 85" never dropped past $1,999 that I saw. I'd be interested if you could find a link? I watched that model for several months last year during that period. In fact, it sold out at $1,999 at all the major outlets until it was liquidated. I'm not seeing why this TV is an insult. I agree that it's basically the same 2021 set but not sure why that matters much? Technical reviews are strong and buyer reviews are strong. $1,999 is a good deal for this TV. Predicting a drop is like predicting the stock market and it's just as likely this is the only dip we'll see for all of 2022. For all we know prices could increase. Some people want to enjoy a large TV right now, not for a new model to possibly reduce current model prices. Maybe it's simply a difference in perspective.
The X90CH 85" never dropped past $1,999 that I saw. I'd be interested if you could find a link? I watched that model for several months last year during that period. In fact, it sold out at $1,999 at all the major outlets until it was liquidated. I'm not seeing why this TV is an insult. I agree that it's basically the same 2021 set but not sure why that matters much? Technical reviews are strong and buyer reviews are strong. $1,999 is a good deal for this TV. Predicting a drop is like predicting the stock market and it's just as likely this is the only dip we'll see for all of 2022. For all we know prices could increase. Some people want to enjoy a large TV right now, not for a new model to possibly reduce current model prices. Maybe it's simply a difference in perspective.
As a longtime sony google tv owner (2015, 2017, 2021 models), sony isn't what you'd call the best at updating the OS. And if any features are new, "about to be released in a new update" or "promised in the future", presume you won't get that, or if you do that it'll be a very long time.
The VRR in my 85" 2021 set is still being "rolled out" and is broken, over a year after purchase.
The 2015 set got one update about 3 years ago, but it was a small set of fixes. Still on Android tv 9.
None of them have been updated to android tv 11. The 2021 set has a chance, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Between that and the TCL google tv fiasco a few months ago where they had to suspend sales for a while due to bugs in the software made me buy some chromecasts with google tv. Those work fine, get regular updates, and I can pick a tv based on the specs and available, working features without considering the smart features at all.
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If its like my X90H, the local dimming is disabled when VRR is turned on, and its been glitchy as hell. See the rtings review updates for the bazillion times they had to retest and still had issues. Its been over a year since the tv was released with VRR promised, and its still not quite right.
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Relevant gaming details below taken from the review here [rtings.com].
Display:
Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
PS5, 1440p @ 120Hz PS5 can't do 1440p
PS5, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
PS5, Variable Refresh Rate No
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, 4k @ 60Hz + HDR Yes
Xbox Series X, 1440p @ 120Hz No
Xbox Series X, 1080p @ 120Hz Yes
Xbox Series X, Variable Refresh Rate No
Update 01/28/2022: We investigated a reported issue with micro-stutter when gaming on the PS5. We tried to reproduce the issue with Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War and Astro's Playroom, but we weren't able to.
The Sony X91CJ supports most common signals from the PS5 and Xbox Series X, but it's not without issues. First, if you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you're limited to 4k @ 60Hz. You either have to set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format' for 4k @ 120Hz signals, or to 'Enhanced Format (Dolby Vision)', which limits it to 4k @ 60Hz signals, as you can see in the Xbox menu. Although the Xbox says that the TV supports VRR when you set the HDMI Signal Format to 'Enhanced Format (VRR)', we're still considering it 'No' because VRR doesn't work.
We confirmed that ALLM works because the TV switched into Game Mode when we launched Destiny 2 on the Xbox Series X. However, like the Sony X900H, we experienced resolution issues with Destiny 2 where it would display 3840x1080 and the rectangle around the 'Open Director' in the menu flashes between white and gray. You can see an example of this from the X900H here.
Input Lag:
1080p @ 60Hz 16.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.7 ms
1440p @ 60Hz 15.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + 10-Bit HDR 15.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 15.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode 91.5 ms
4k @ 60Hz With Interpolation 87.4 ms
8k @ 60Hz N/A
1080p @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1440p @ 120Hz 7.1 ms
4k @ 120Hz 7.0 ms
1080p with Variable Refresh Rate N/A
1440p with VRR N/A
4k with VRR N/A
8k with VRR N/A
The Sony KD85X91CJ has objectively low input lag, but it's higher than some other TVs, like the Samsung QN90A QLED. Still, it's fine for most gamers. Unless specified, we measure it all in the 'Game' Picture Mode, but the 4k @ 60Hz with chroma 4:4:4 input lag was measured in 'Graphics' mode instead.
Although VRR isn't working properly, we also measured the input lag with the VRR setting enabled. We measured 15.8 ms for 1080p @ 120Hz with VRR and 9.4 ms in 4k @ 120Hz, but since we don't consider the VRR to be functional, we aren't including these numbers in the results.
Variable Refresh Rate:
Native Refresh Rate 120 Hz
Variable Refresh Rate No
HDMI Forum VRR No
FreeSync No
G-SYNC Compatible No
4k VRR Maximum N/A
4k VRR Minimum No VRR support
1080p VRR Maximum N/A
1080p VRR Minimum No VRR support
1440p VRR Maximum N/A
1440p VRR Minimum No VRR support
VRR Supported Connectors No VRR support
At the time of testing, the variable refresh rate support on the Sony X91J doesn't work. There's a VRR setting, but unlike the Sony X900H, it doesn't reduce screen tearing. *Sony is implementing VRR support through firmware updates, and they've said it'll take two updates by the end of 2021 for VRR to be fully functional, so we'll retest the TV once the second update comes out. We tried the pendulum test pattern with our RTX 3070, RX580, RX6600, and RX6800 graphics cards, and there was always screen tearing. We also checked in Destiny 2 with our RX6600 card, and there's still screen tearing.
*We're obviously past 2021 but I checked Sony's website and the X91J is still planning firmware updates for VRR.
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For the record, I have the 900h. It looks and plays fantastic. The brights are exceptional and I've had no issue with input lag which is a big one for me. If you're a ranked FPS player your opinion might be different. The only disadvantage would be the reportedly non-functioning VRR for X91J.
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As for thinking its all about zones..yes and no
The X940E he cited has significant motion issues and rtings.com actually thought the edge lit X930E was a better set
from their review
"The Sony X930E is a bit better than the Sony X940E. The X940E has a more advanced full array local dimming feature and better black uniformity, so it performs better in a dark room. The X940E has a better black frame insertion feature to help clear up motion, but the X930E has a much better response time, so motion is smoother overall and has much less blur trail. The X930E is brighter with SDR and HDR content."
costco has 5 yrs warranty.
Poor man's premium tv
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This should drop to an in store price of 1599 in the coming months and continue to drop until they're completely sold out. Just search up x90ch on slickdeals for proof.
At this point I'd rather wait til the x90k 2022 model premieres and snag it during spring 2023.
They cheated with this model.
This should drop to an in store price of 1599 in the coming months and continue to drop until they're completely sold out. Just search up x90ch on slickdeals for proof.
At this point I'd rather wait til the x90k 2022 model premieres and snag it during spring 2023.
They cheated with this model.
Search Slickdeals for x90ch to get an idea of when to start checking stores.
I'm speculating that once the new models hit the floor they'll start clearing these out aggressively.
If anyone else is in the same boat as me, you can find the price adjust form on Costco.com, by going to the bellow link, make sure you are logged in (maybe, not sure it's important), and on the left is a bunch of icons and one says price adjustment.
https://customerservice
Edit: Someone mentioned they tried the same thing last year and the Costco forms didn't ever go though and they had to just call customer service. Going to do that today because I've gotten no feedback 24 hours later.
This should drop to an in store price of 1599 in the coming months and continue to drop until they're completely sold out. Just search up x90ch on slickdeals for proof.
At this point I'd rather wait til the x90k 2022 model premieres and snag it during spring 2023.
They cheated with this model.
Costco YMMV in-store thread... $1500...
https://slickdeals.net/f/15254230-sony-xbr85x90ch-x900h-85-full-array-led-tv-ymmv-in-store-1499-97-at-coscto?src=Site
X900H (Regular Retail Version) @ $1800
https://slickdeals.net/f/15111628-sony-electronics-85-x900h-4k-uhd-hdr-led-with-android-tv-1800-at-sony?src=SiteSe
The VRR in my 85" 2021 set is still being "rolled out" and is broken, over a year after purchase.
The 2015 set got one update about 3 years ago, but it was a small set of fixes. Still on Android tv 9.
None of them have been updated to android tv 11. The 2021 set has a chance, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Between that and the TCL google tv fiasco a few months ago where they had to suspend sales for a while due to bugs in the software made me buy some chromecasts with google tv. Those work fine, get regular updates, and I can pick a tv based on the specs and available, working features without considering the smart features at all.
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