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5-lbs Hillman Deck Plus 10 x 2.5" Wood To Wood Deck Screws

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Amazon has 5-lbs Hillman Deck Plus 10 x 2.5" Wood To Wood Deck Screws (48416) for $17.98. Shipping is free w/ Prime or on $25+ orders.

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Key Features:
  • ~365 pieces per package (~73 pieces per pound)
  • Recommended for use with ACQ, CA, and CCA treated lumber
  • Type 17 point is designed to eliminate the need to pre-drill
  • Flat Head has been designed to lay flat with your decking to provide a smooth finish
  • Star Drive is twice as durable as Phillips head and prevents stripping
  • Star-bit is included in every package
  • 4-layer coating provides superior rust and corrosion protection
  • Limited Lifetime Warranty

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  • About this deal:
    • Our research indicates that 5-lbs Hillman Deck Plus 10 x 2.5" Wood To Wood Deck Screws (48416) is $5.93 lower (24.80% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $23.91 at the time of this posting.
    • This offer is $0.82 less than this previous FrontPage Deal from December. -slickdewmaster
  • About this product:
    • 4.8 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon based on over 2,900 customer reviews
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Amazon has 5-lbs Hillman Deck Plus 10 x 2.5" Wood To Wood Deck Screws (48416) for $17.98. Shipping is free w/ Prime or on $25+ orders.

Thanks to Deal Editor Corwin for sharing this deal.

Key Features:
  • ~365 pieces per package (~73 pieces per pound)
  • Recommended for use with ACQ, CA, and CCA treated lumber
  • Type 17 point is designed to eliminate the need to pre-drill
  • Flat Head has been designed to lay flat with your decking to provide a smooth finish
  • Star Drive is twice as durable as Phillips head and prevents stripping
  • Star-bit is included in every package
  • 4-layer coating provides superior rust and corrosion protection
  • Limited Lifetime Warranty

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Our research indicates that 5-lbs Hillman Deck Plus 10 x 2.5" Wood To Wood Deck Screws (48416) is $5.93 lower (24.80% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $23.91 at the time of this posting.
    • This offer is $0.82 less than this previous FrontPage Deal from December. -slickdewmaster
  • About this product:
    • 4.8 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon based on over 2,900 customer reviews
  • About this store:

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Mar 9, 2022 1:31 PM
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ph1aakMar 9, 2022 1:31 PM
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Quote from IncompletePerfect View quoted comment :
Not pre-drilling (not drilling a pilot hole) is pretty common in a lot of wood screws now.

The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.

It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)

The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.

The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.

This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.

The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.

A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.

With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
Geez, do you have a PhD in fasteners lol? That's a very detailed response.
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Mar 9, 2022 1:44 PM
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FabulousSeagull417Mar 9, 2022 1:44 PM
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Needed 1 1/4. Great price compared to Lowes and Home Depot.
Mar 9, 2022 2:24 PM
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NickO5937Mar 9, 2022 2:24 PM
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Quote from IncompletePerfect View quoted comment :
Not pre-drilling (not drilling a pilot hole) is pretty common in a lot of wood screws now.

The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.

It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)

The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.

The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.

This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.

The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.

A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.

With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
Have these screws. Haven't had any cam outs. T25 fits well for me without noticeable wobble. Used them on couple hundred sq feet of subfloor
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Mar 9, 2022 2:25 PM
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hleaphaMar 9, 2022 2:25 PM
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Quote from IncompletePerfect View quoted comment :
Good price, still horrible screws
I hate to be a snob, but totally agree. I've been spoiled by GRK. Those those things are so much nicer - never have issues.
Mar 9, 2022 2:34 PM
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Quote from IncompletePerfect View quoted comment :
Not pre-drilling (not drilling a pilot hole) is pretty common in a lot of wood screws now.

The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.

It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)

The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.

The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.

This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.

The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.

A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.

With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
TU and repped for your response, but while I don't doubt your experience, I don't fully agree from mine.

I purchased a previous SD on hill man box of screws (I think 3") and used them exclusively when putting together a boardwalk to our front door.

I do agree that the fit could have been a BIT snugger, but I did not experience camming out. It may have happened a few times, but definitely wasn't "a thing" and I don't recall any stripped heads. I forget how many boards, but it was a ~45' path with 6" boards so it was a decent amount of screws.

I have not looked for chipped paint, but I can tell you that I finished the boardwalk I want to say last summer, so it's seen a good deal of rain/snow (I'm in the NE) and I have not seen any signs of rust.

Not saying it can't / won't happen, but hasn't been my experience thus far. I can also say not a single screw snapped which is probably the most annoying thing that can happen.

I did slip a few times and jam my impact driver into the deck board, but that was probably just me and not the screw.

For a professional, I can see this being a pass for the reasons you mentioned, but I would definitely use them again as a homeowner. I actually repurchased them last time around to use this summer for when I replace deck boards.
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Mar 9, 2022 2:42 PM
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bohoMar 9, 2022 2:42 PM
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Lowes has 1000 screws for $40. 4 cents a screw. This deal is almost 5 cents a screw. Good deal if you don't need a lot, but if you are planning to do a big deck check out Lowes, plus you can get a discount if your are military, have coupon or lowes CC.
Mar 9, 2022 2:45 PM
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kirazhang45Mar 9, 2022 2:45 PM
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Is this good for fence?
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Mar 9, 2022 2:50 PM
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KManMar 9, 2022 2:50 PM
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I'm scared to find out how expensive board lumber has gotten. I was thinking of building another garden planter with screws like these. I still have a bunch left over from the 2x8' one I built a few years ago, total cost $50-$60 IIRC including a big box of screws and 10 8' untreated doug fir 2x4s, which were the cheapest HD had at the time.

What are those going for now?

Btw even though these are self-tapping, is it a bad idea to pre-drill a 1/8" hole first, to avoid splitting cheaper wood that's pretty dry?
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Quote from cravi5 View quoted comment :
TU and repped for your response, but while I don't doubt your experience, I don't fully agree from mine.

I purchased a previous SD on hill man box of screws (I think 3") and used them exclusively when putting together a boardwalk to our front door.

I do agree that the fit could have been a BIT snugger, but I did not experience camming out. It may have happened a few times, but definitely wasn't "a thing" and I don't recall any stripped heads. I forget how many boards, but it was a ~45' path with 6" boards so it was a decent amount of screws.

I have not looked for chipped paint, but I can tell you that I finished the boardwalk I want to say last summer, so it's seen a good deal of rain/snow (I'm in the NE) and I have not seen any signs of rust.

Not saying it can't / won't happen, but hasn't been my experience thus far. I can also say not a single screw snapped which is probably the most annoying thing that can happen.

I did slip a few times and jam my impact driver into the deck board, but that was probably just me and not the screw.

For a professional, I can see this being a pass for the reasons you mentioned, but I would definitely use them again as a homeowner. I actually repurchased them last time around to use this summer for when I replace deck boards.
I've use about 40lbs in this brand in 1-5/8, 2-1/2, and 3in. I've had maybe 5 bad heads per 5lbs but nothing outrageous. Good screws IMO and just like everything you can always pay more for "better quality".

There should be absolutely no concerns with using these as a home owner for a home project .

I need some more 1-5/8 screws... Wish those would go on sale.
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Mar 9, 2022 2:57 PM
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a3b2c1r46Mar 9, 2022 2:57 PM
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Quote from NickO5937 View quoted comment :
Have these screws. Haven't had any cam outs. T25 fits well for me without noticeable wobble. Used them on couple hundred sq feet of subfloor
Yea I'm with you. I've built quite a few things with these screws and never had an issue with more than one or two per box.

The included bit is trash but everyone knows that going in. I bought some bosch impact bits and they work well enough with these screws. I do agree the hole for the bit could be a bit deeper but its not enough to matter to me.

With that said i've probably only used 20lbs of these screws in the last year or two. So someone who builds decks and such for a living probably uses that much every week or two. So no doubt there are people with more experience.

But for an average do-it guy these are totally fine. Also having the 3" option for the same money makes it more valuable in my eyes.
Mar 9, 2022 3:07 PM
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FalqonMar 9, 2022 3:07 PM
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Quote from PowerfulMeerkat340 View quoted comment :
This is good to know, so thanks! It's nice to know I don't suck that bad, but it's gonna be a loooonng 20 lbs of screws for me bc i loaded up on a previous deal.
You'll be fine. I've used these for years with no complaints. It's always great when people load up on complaints without offering a better buy at the same price range.

Ask yourself, is complaining about an alleged .2mm of tolerance of a 5 cent screw really your biggest concern with your home improvement projects?

If so, congrats.
Mar 9, 2022 3:09 PM
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Marlin1975Mar 9, 2022 3:09 PM
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Quantity discount brings it down into the $15 for each if you buy 2 or more in both the 2 1/2 and 3" screws.
Mar 9, 2022 3:10 PM
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SuperDealLoverMar 9, 2022 3:10 PM
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Quote from IncompletePerfect View quoted comment :
Tan... I've ordered them in the past, but returned them right away. They're 💩.
For anyone that cares, I've used these on things outdoors 10 years ago. While the wood around them has rotted the screws remain in great shape.
As an example, I have numerous raised garden beds, I will be replacing 10 year beds this year and reusing the same screws because they have held up that well.

I wouldn't reuse them if I didn't think they would hold up another 10 years.
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Mar 9, 2022 3:44 PM
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boybradyMar 9, 2022 3:44 PM
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Quote from IncompletePerfect View quoted comment :
Not pre-drilling (not drilling a pilot hole) is pretty common in a lot of wood screws now.

The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.

It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)

The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.

The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.

This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.

The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.

A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.

With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
This guy screws.
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Mar 9, 2022 3:49 PM
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drew2moneyMar 9, 2022 3:49 PM
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Quote from IncompletePerfect View quoted comment :
Good price, still horrible screws
There is not such thing as a good price on a horrible product.
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