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5-lbs Hillman Deck Plus 10 x 2.5" Wood To Wood Deck Screws (48416) for
$17.98.
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Key Features:- ~365 pieces per package (~73 pieces per pound)
- Recommended for use with ACQ, CA, and CCA treated lumber
- Type 17 point is designed to eliminate the need to pre-drill
- Flat Head has been designed to lay flat with your decking to provide a smooth finish
- Star Drive is twice as durable as Phillips head and prevents stripping
- Star-bit is included in every package
- 4-layer coating provides superior rust and corrosion protection
- Limited Lifetime Warranty
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The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.
It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)
The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.
The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.
This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.
The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.
A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.
With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
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I purchased a previous SD on hill man box of screws (I think 3") and used them exclusively when putting together a boardwalk to our front door.
I do agree that the fit could have been a BIT snugger, but I did not experience camming out. It may have happened a few times, but definitely wasn't "a thing" and I don't recall any stripped heads. I forget how many boards, but it was a ~45' path with 6" boards so it was a decent amount of screws.
I have not looked for chipped paint, but I can tell you that I finished the boardwalk I want to say last summer, so it's seen a good deal of rain/snow (I'm in the NE) and I have not seen any signs of rust.
Not saying it can't / won't happen, but hasn't been my experience thus far. I can also say not a single screw snapped which is probably the most annoying thing that can happen.
I did slip a few times and jam my impact driver into the deck board, but that was probably just me and not the screw.
For a professional, I can see this being a pass for the reasons you mentioned, but I would definitely use them again as a homeowner. I actually repurchased them last time around to use this summer for when I replace deck boards.
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The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.
It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)
The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.
The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.
This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.
The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.
A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.
With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.
It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)
The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.
The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.
This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.
The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.
A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.
With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
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The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.
It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)
The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.
The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.
This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.
The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.
A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.
With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
I purchased a previous SD on hill man box of screws (I think 3") and used them exclusively when putting together a boardwalk to our front door.
I do agree that the fit could have been a BIT snugger, but I did not experience camming out. It may have happened a few times, but definitely wasn't "a thing" and I don't recall any stripped heads. I forget how many boards, but it was a ~45' path with 6" boards so it was a decent amount of screws.
I have not looked for chipped paint, but I can tell you that I finished the boardwalk I want to say last summer, so it's seen a good deal of rain/snow (I'm in the NE) and I have not seen any signs of rust.
Not saying it can't / won't happen, but hasn't been my experience thus far. I can also say not a single screw snapped which is probably the most annoying thing that can happen.
I did slip a few times and jam my impact driver into the deck board, but that was probably just me and not the screw.
For a professional, I can see this being a pass for the reasons you mentioned, but I would definitely use them again as a homeowner. I actually repurchased them last time around to use this summer for when I replace deck boards.
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What are those going for now?
Btw even though these are self-tapping, is it a bad idea to pre-drill a 1/8" hole first, to avoid splitting cheaper wood that's pretty dry?
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I purchased a previous SD on hill man box of screws (I think 3") and used them exclusively when putting together a boardwalk to our front door.
I do agree that the fit could have been a BIT snugger, but I did not experience camming out. It may have happened a few times, but definitely wasn't "a thing" and I don't recall any stripped heads. I forget how many boards, but it was a ~45' path with 6" boards so it was a decent amount of screws.
I have not looked for chipped paint, but I can tell you that I finished the boardwalk I want to say last summer, so it's seen a good deal of rain/snow (I'm in the NE) and I have not seen any signs of rust.
Not saying it can't / won't happen, but hasn't been my experience thus far. I can also say not a single screw snapped which is probably the most annoying thing that can happen.
I did slip a few times and jam my impact driver into the deck board, but that was probably just me and not the screw.
For a professional, I can see this being a pass for the reasons you mentioned, but I would definitely use them again as a homeowner. I actually repurchased them last time around to use this summer for when I replace deck boards.
There should be absolutely no concerns with using these as a home owner for a home project .
I need some more 1-5/8 screws... Wish those would go on sale.
The included bit is trash but everyone knows that going in. I bought some bosch impact bits and they work well enough with these screws. I do agree the hole for the bit could be a bit deeper but its not enough to matter to me.
With that said i've probably only used 20lbs of these screws in the last year or two. So someone who builds decks and such for a living probably uses that much every week or two. So no doubt there are people with more experience.
But for an average do-it guy these are totally fine. Also having the 3" option for the same money makes it more valuable in my eyes.
Ask yourself, is complaining about an alleged .2mm of tolerance of a 5 cent screw really your biggest concern with your home improvement projects?
If so, congrats.
As an example, I have numerous raised garden beds, I will be replacing 10 year beds this year and reusing the same screws because they have held up that well.
I wouldn't reuse them if I didn't think they would hold up another 10 years.
The flaw with Hillman, and so many other screws, is their driving heads.
It says T25 but they aren't snug with any T25 bit. But sadly, a lot of screw makers have this issue (and the screws themselves from different brand names, all seem identical in appearance... like made in the same place.)
The Hillman brand has a lot of wobble when used with a T25 bit. You can use a T26 or T26.5 and it will help, but do you have any of those laying around? Not many do.
The issue is they don't have the torx heads stamped in deep enough to compensate their coating. They oversize the width of the drive slot to make up for that, bit it's too oversized. So they don't grip the driving bit well.
This can lead to cam out on them. And a torx shouldn't be capable of that. So when it does happen, it strips the coating off, and leaves it vulnerable to rusting.
The weird part is that their non-coated wood screws (or zinc coated) still have too large a head slot.
A good screw should fit on the end of your bit, and not slope down as it driver is resting. It should remain straight.
With that said, a lot of the lesser quality brands have started to listen and are buying heads that are sized more appropriately. These however, are not those.
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