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Costco Members: 3-Pack First Alert Z-Wave Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm

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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: 3-Pack First Alert Z-Wave Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member the.invincible for finding this deal.

Features:
  • Works with Ring Alarm System and Samsung Smart Things
  • Works with Nexia Home Intelligence and other Z-Wave Systems
  • Sends mobile alerts and emails when you are home or away
  • Photoelectric Smoke Sensor, Electrochemical Carbon Monoxide Sensor
  • Includes Test/Silence Button

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  • About this deal:
    • $20 manufacturer's savings is valid 3/7/22 through 3/20/22.
    • While supplies last.
    • This offer matches previous Frontpage deal that earned 57+ thumbs up
  • About this product:
    • 7-Year Limited Warranty
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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: 3-Pack First Alert Z-Wave Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member the.invincible for finding this deal.

Features:
  • Works with Ring Alarm System and Samsung Smart Things
  • Works with Nexia Home Intelligence and other Z-Wave Systems
  • Sends mobile alerts and emails when you are home or away
  • Photoelectric Smoke Sensor, Electrochemical Carbon Monoxide Sensor
  • Includes Test/Silence Button

Editor's Notes

Written by johnny_miller | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • $20 manufacturer's savings is valid 3/7/22 through 3/20/22.
    • While supplies last.
    • This offer matches previous Frontpage deal that earned 57+ thumbs up
  • About this product:
    • 7-Year Limited Warranty
  • About this store:
    • Costco Wholesale return policy here

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joeonetime
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Firefighter here. Central station monitoring is a good thing. We'd rather answer the occasional accidental activation than face a fully engulfed home with spreading because no one called us.

Obviously, if we visit your home twice a week because of this, we'll want to have a conversation - otherwise, my statement stands
mrmochi
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!!!! WARNING !!!!
I have 7 of these and they are VERY prone to misfiring, usually at the late hours of the night/early morning. I've replaced 4 in the past only to find out that a can of compressed air usually solves the misfiring. If you read the reviews there is a consistent pattern of this.

I run these in HomeKit via Homebridge. In hindsight, I would avoid these and go with a standard smoke detector from Costco.
borodin1
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I have 8 of these, installed 4 years ago. Had 4 or 5 misfires. Batteries have to be replaced once per year as they don't last too long in these and they do not talk to each other (no interconnect). And they're just fugly. If I was to do it again, I'd go with regular wired alarms and added a smart sound detector.

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Mar 09, 2022 08:27 PM
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runs_with_scissorsMar 09, 2022 08:27 PM
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I've had several of these over the years. I just checked two and they're from 2017.

The batteries (2xAA) last a bit over a year. I just checked mine in Smartthings, and they are 100%, 94%, 94%, and 84% battery. The 84% will be lucky to make it through the summer. They start beeping around 70%, but never alert for low battery in Smartthings.

I've only had them alert when there was actual smoke or water vapor around. Either too long in the shower without the fan running, something in the kitchen, or a forest fire.

They only last 7 years before they start beeping forever. If mine were a bit older I'd go ahead and order a pack of these to replace them.

The sensors in smoke detectors decay over time. I can't find a good reference right now, but at 7-10 years I think they are typically less than half as sensitive as when new. That's why they expire. You'll still be getting significant improvement if you replace them earlier.

My house came with a combination of hardwired and battery powered detectors. These have photo sensors that detect smoky/smoldering fires better. I replaced the hardwired ones with detectors using ionizing sensors that detect hotter flaming fires better.

My thinking was that gives me better coverage for any type of fire and all of them are interconnected, either hardwired or via z-wave. The two systems aren't interconnected yet, but I haven't seen a good way to do that without jury-rigging something. I'm reluctant to muck with safety equipment.

Smoke detectors can save your life and your home. They aren't expensive and are good insurance. I'll cheap out on lots of things, but smoke alarms isn't one of them.
Mar 09, 2022 08:44 PM
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TochiTMar 09, 2022 08:44 PM
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Bought the 3 pack from Costco. Had paired with Ring alarm for 3 years. One of them did go off for no reason. Fortunately I was able to answer Ring's call to dismiss these false alarms. It went off several times at the same night so I disconnected it that night. One week later I put new batteries (though it still shows full battery level in Ring) in and connected to Ring. It resumed working fine again with no issue.
Most of false alarm complaints happened at night. Maybe it doesn't like cooler temperature. The temperature in my house is never cooler than 60 degree because of thermostat settings though.
Last edited by TochiT March 9, 2022 at 03:02 PM.
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Mar 09, 2022 08:51 PM
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socbrianMar 09, 2022 08:51 PM
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Quote from mrmochi :
!!!! WARNING !!!!
I have 7 of these and they are VERY prone to misfiring, usually at the late hours of the night/early morning. I've replaced 4 in the past only to find out that a can of compressed air usually solves the misfiring. If you read the reviews there is a consistent pattern of this.

I run these in HomeKit via Homebridge. In hindsight, I would avoid these and go with a standard smoke detector from Costco.
I have 5 and no issues. Had some of them for 5 years
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Mar 09, 2022 08:54 PM
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GurpreetD6598Mar 09, 2022 08:54 PM
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Is this first gen or 2nd gen?
Mar 09, 2022 09:03 PM
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SlickieMar 09, 2022 09:03 PM
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Any comments on the CO detection? Will these detect low levels from a faulty furnace heat exchanger?
Mar 09, 2022 09:15 PM
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TochiTMar 09, 2022 09:15 PM
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Quote from Slickie :
Any comments on the CO detection? Will these detect low levels from a faulty furnace heat exchanger?
Fortunately I don't have experience. But from what I know, most of CO detectors are very sensitive. They go off way sooner before CO reaches hazardous level.
Mar 09, 2022 09:38 PM
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runs_with_scissorsMar 09, 2022 09:38 PM
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So I just got off with First Alert/BRK. The guy didn't know much, but here's what I think I found out.

They didn't update the model number, and there really isn't any mention of the 1st gen on their web site. All instructions are for 2nd Gen, though they mostly avoid any Gen references.

Check the dates of any info. Anything after about October 2019 is 2nd Gen.

I think the only difference is in the Z-Wave chipset. The Smoke and CO sensors are the same.

These documents had the only references I could find.

https://support.firstalert.com/s/...ave-alarms

https://support.firstalert.com/s/...raXhr=true

From the second page:

Note:
The 2nd Generation ZCOMBO has a year of manufacture of 2020 or later and has a QR code printed on the back of the alarm. If your alarm does not have a QR code, skip to the next section for 1st Gen ZCOMBO pairing steps.

Here's the 1st Gen manual: https://data2.manualslib.com/pdf6...ake=binary

I think the 2nd Gen will be a much better Z-Wave experience. I'll be buying these in a couple of years when my 1st Gen reach EOL.
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Mar 09, 2022 09:43 PM
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chefpMar 09, 2022 09:43 PM
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Got a 3 pack of these about 2 yrs ago. They're 2nd gen, must've been right as they switched over. Haven't had any false alarms. Manually tested one with a matchstick and it fired the alarm.

These are sensitive to dust and water vapor. If you place one near a steamy bathroom, or in a room with a lot of dust, it might go off accidentally. Maybe that's why a squirt of compressed air helps clear out dust built up inside. For those situations, get an ionizing smoke detector instead of photocell that's used in these.
Mar 09, 2022 10:07 PM
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c2dMar 09, 2022 10:07 PM
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If anyone has one or two ZCOMBO first gen zwave devices (NOT the newer 2nd gen zwave plus) that they would like to sell to me, please PM me. I have an old 1st gen Abode system that only works with the old ZCOMBO. I don't want to upgrade my system yet with so many devices already installed.

If you have a hub that works with zwave plus, i'll pay you to get this new set, and you can give me your old ones Smilie
Mar 09, 2022 10:23 PM
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Smoke1234Mar 09, 2022 10:23 PM
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Have 2 of them and never had an issue. Good deal!
Mar 09, 2022 10:47 PM
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HoosierBunnyMar 09, 2022 10:47 PM
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I've had 5 in my home networked with Ring alarm for 4 years with a single false alarm. I fill them with lithium AAs and they have been going strong.
Mar 09, 2022 10:56 PM
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dag16Mar 09, 2022 10:56 PM
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Quote from HoosierBunny :
I've had 5 in my home networked with Ring alarm for 4 years with a single false alarm. I fill them with lithium AAs and they have been going strong.
I noticed that they need real batteries, not rechargeable. only "false" alarms we have had are when I cook and the oil starts smoking
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Mar 09, 2022 11:26 PM
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Mar 09, 2022 11:26 PM
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Quote from minwild :
I'll throw in my 2-cents in that I've had two of these for a few years now and have not had any issues with them using them through SmartThings. One from 2016 and one from 2017. I've been very happy with them. Maybe the older ones were better?

Good price compared to what I paid for them back then.
Same here. Worked well for me for 2 years.

Only thing I would add is the farther they are away from the base the quicker they use batteries. The alarm on the attic goes through batteries way faster than the others. Not an issue, just something to be aware of.
Mar 09, 2022 11:47 PM
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TochiTMar 09, 2022 11:47 PM
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Quote from c2d :
If anyone has one or two ZCOMBO first gen zwave devices (NOT the newer 2nd gen zwave plus) that they would like to sell to me, please PM me. I have an old 1st gen Abode system that only works with the old ZCOMBO. I don't want to upgrade my system yet with so many devices already installed.

If you have a hub that works with zwave plus, i'll pay you to get this new set, and you can give me your old ones Smilie
It's not a good idea to buy old ones. These detectors won't work after 7 years. They probably stopped making first gen since 3 years ago. That means they can work for up to another 4 years only. And you still have to upgrade your base anyway.

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Mar 09, 2022 11:51 PM
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mvinuela4812Mar 09, 2022 11:51 PM
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Per code regulations here we have to install hardwired or lithium 10 year ones.

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