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T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan: Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot

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$10 per month

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T-Mobile (link is for reference only) is offering a T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan with Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot for $10 per month. Valid in-store only [store locator].

Thanks to community member King_Chucky for sharing this deal

Note, The Unlimited tablet promo requires a business account with T-Mobile.

Plan Features:
  • Unlimited high-speed on-device 5G/LTE data (5G device required for 5G access), deprioritized after 50GB of usage
  • 10GB of mobile hotspot data, then unlimited mobile hotspot at 3G speeds (600 kbps) for the remainder of the month

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  • About this deal:
    • This deal does require verification of your business (example, an EIN number). Check with your local store to see what they require for verification.
    • See forum thread for deal discussion and ideas.

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T-Mobile (link is for reference only) is offering a T-Mobile Business Tablet Plan with Unlimited Data + 10GB of Mobile Hotspot for $10 per month. Valid in-store only [store locator].

Thanks to community member King_Chucky for sharing this deal

Note, The Unlimited tablet promo requires a business account with T-Mobile.

Plan Features:
  • Unlimited high-speed on-device 5G/LTE data (5G device required for 5G access), deprioritized after 50GB of usage
  • 10GB of mobile hotspot data, then unlimited mobile hotspot at 3G speeds (600 kbps) for the remainder of the month

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This deal does require verification of your business (example, an EIN number). Check with your local store to see what they require for verification.
    • See forum thread for deal discussion and ideas.

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Papote3
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Just an FYI if you're just getting this for the "free" tablet. The tablet is a Galaxy A7 lite which only costs $200 ($129 on Amazon)

They will still lock you to a 2 year EIP even if it's free (They'll make a monthly credit to cover the tablet EIP)

Meaning you'd end up paying $10 for 2 years ($240) for a $129 tablet.

So if you're only doing it for the tablet then it's not worth it
MusicShark
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Some people don't live in a house.
needgeech
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Not on the "free" tablet, lol. In all seriousness, don't choose the plan with TE in the title as that one is tax exclusive (you have 2 choices)

soc code ZB10HSTI is the one you want.

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Jun 06, 2023 05:41 PM
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Rdog
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Jun 06, 2023 05:41 PM
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Quote from Rottingham :
Now you can disable Wifi signal on T-mobile home internet gateways by using this app.

https://play.google.com/store/app...d21control

I could turn Wifi off on my Arcadyan KVD21.
I tested turning off the Wi-Fi with this app, it hides the main SSID, but there are still 2 hidden SSID showing (one for the 2.4 and the other on the 5Ghz band). This is with the latest firmware 1.00.18. I verified with the WiFiman app on android. This confirms what others have mentioned previously, that using the current scripts available to turn off Wi-Fi doesn't actually turn them off. The app does provide useful info about the Arcadyan KVD21 though.
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Jun 06, 2023 06:14 PM
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Rdog
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Jun 06, 2023 06:14 PM
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Quote from ScottoDono :
Has your Cudy been reliable? I am thinking of replacing my T-Mobile Cellspot converted to Asus RT-AC68P with Merlin
. Its old and the wifi has been limited. Others say its a better router compared to Cudy. Cudy X6 is currently $63 with coupon

I work from home and I need a reliable internet connection so not sure if relying on the $10 sim is a smart move.
Just wanted to mention another option. A few years ago I was using three Asus RT-AC68 with AiMesh, but the signal kept dropping so I bought an Netgear Orbi mesh router and didn't have any WiFi issues after that. However, I liked the Asus Merlin UI and customizations, so I ended up setting the Orbi in access point mode for just the WiFi and disabled the WiFi on the Asus. Has been working great since then.

I'm currently testing out OPNSense on a SFF pc with a 4 port NIC card. I like it so far for the multi WAN and failover features, but the only issue I'm running into is changing the TTL doesn't seem to hide the hotspot usage. Both OPNSense and pfSense have a min TTL option. In OPNSense you can change this from the UI. I tried values from 65 thru 69 and they they all show up as hotspot data when connected directly to the KVD21. So I'm currently still using the Asus RT-AC68 as a intermediary. I also tested OpenWRT on the SFF pc and was able to set the TTL to 66 and it successfully hid the hotspot usage.
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Jun 06, 2023 06:32 PM
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Rdog
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Jun 06, 2023 06:32 PM
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Quote from HunterOne :
Noticed something similar with the KVD21. No VPNs are used.
Connecting to it either with WiFi or with Cat6 ethernet cable directly in a Win11 PC gives a speedtest.net speed of around 500Kbps.
Similarly with WiFi in a Samsung S21 phone.
BUT
When connected thru the TTL modified Cudy X6 router that's hard wired to the KVD21 with a Cat6 ethernet cable, the WiFi speeds are over 400Mbps with the S21 and over 200Mbps with the Win11 PC.

So, it seems that T-Mo MAY have done something here with these $10 Sims used on other devices.

Without the TTL modified Cudy X6 router the $10 Sim is useless with the KVD21, and perhaps other similar devices.
I'll try to test again at the beginning of the billing cycle just in case usage is a factor here.

If anyone has noticed something similar lately with the KVD21, or any other device, and/or has any insights please chime in.
Quote from hokiebuy :
I think we are in the same boat. T-mobile is now scanning hard for these TTLs and throttling where they can. m2000 has TTL modded, but when OpenVPN is configured, it doesn't seem to use TTL mod and T-mobile slows it down. I think now only option is 2 device setup, T-Mobile device like KVD21/m2000/or phone, connected to TTL modified router like Cudy or GL-inet. I tried using TTL mod in 1 device (GL-Inet Mudi/Puli they have 4g LTE chip + router), but they get throttled when VPN is used. I think VPN is messing with TTL unless exclusively used behind a modded router. It might have something to do with data getting cleanly sent to T-mobile with TTL of 65.
I suspect you guys have hit your 10GB hotspot limit and are still "leaking" hotspot usage. I've ran into a similar issue where the speeds slow down once I hit the 10GB hotspot limit and was not updating the TTL thru some connections. You can verify your usage on from your T-Mobile account usage details. BTW, hotspot usage only shows in the usage details if you've used some, otherwise that section doesn't show at all. My understanding is if you have a VPN set up directly on your router, then it'll bypass the router's firewall rules for the TTL changes. See these two posts.

https://forum.gl-inet.com/t/chang...tl/2096/90
https://serverfault.com/questions...s-firewall
Jun 06, 2023 10:52 PM
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hummingbrookeJun 06, 2023 10:52 PM
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Anyone else have it showing "BYOD-ROUTER" on their account? It still seems to be using the unlimited data but it has me a little concerned it may not last long.
Jun 06, 2023 11:19 PM
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darkiJun 06, 2023 11:19 PM
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Quote from hummingbrooke :
Anyone else have it showing "BYOD-ROUTER" on their account? It still seems to be using the unlimited data but it has me a little concerned it may not last long.
No issues here, 100gb+ last month.

1 "unknown phone first device"
1 "Iphone 14 pro max" (esim)
Jun 07, 2023 04:14 AM
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hokiebuyJun 07, 2023 04:14 AM
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Quote from Rdog :
I suspect you guys have hit your 10GB hotspot limit and are still "leaking" hotspot usage. I've ran into a similar issue where the speeds slow down once I hit the 10GB hotspot limit and was not updating the TTL thru some connections. You can verify your usage on from your T-Mobile account usage details. BTW, hotspot usage only shows in the usage details if you've used some, otherwise that section doesn't show at all. My understanding is if you have a VPN set up directly on your router, then it'll bypass the router's firewall rules for the TTL changes. See these two posts.

https://forum.gl-inet.com/t/chang...tl/2096/90
https://serverfault.com/questions...s-firewall
I concur. When using VPN "on" the router, my TTL is 56 today. without VPN, it's 65.
Jun 07, 2023 05:53 PM
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xoneinaxJun 07, 2023 05:53 PM
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Quote from Rdog :
I tested turning off the Wi-Fi with this app, it hides the main SSID, but there are still 2 hidden SSID showing (one for the 2.4 and the other on the 5Ghz band). This is with the latest firmware 1.00.18. I verified with the WiFiman app on android. This confirms what others have mentioned previously, that using the current scripts available to turn off Wi-Fi doesn't actually turn them off.
Yes, this new app is not of much help in that regard
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Jun 07, 2023 09:00 PM
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xoneinaxJun 07, 2023 09:00 PM
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Quote from Rdog :
My understanding is if you have a VPN set up directly on your router, then it'll bypass the router's firewall rules for the TTL changes
Ugghh, that sort of sucks
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ScottoDonoJun 14, 2023 03:09 AM
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I think I am going to basically give up on trying to use this as full service internet. Comcast has a deal thats $25 buck a month for 24 months after autopay for 200Mbps. My old plan was 75Mbps so I think 200 will be more than enough and I prefer the stability especially because I work from home.

Debating whether to sell the KVD21 on ebay or keep it for now as backup. Also, I am paying the $10 a month for the sim which I barely use but I know I should keep it because its such a good deal
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xoneinaxJun 14, 2023 05:52 AM
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Quote from ScottoDono :
My old plan was 75Mbps so I think 200 will be more than enough and I prefer the stability especially because I work from home.
Doesn't ComCast have a monthly GB or TB limit ?
Jun 14, 2023 02:17 PM
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ScottoDonoJun 14, 2023 02:17 PM
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Quote from xoneinax :
Doesn't ComCast have a monthly GB or TB limit ?
Yes, 1.2tb unless you pay extra $10 for xFi Complete but I'm one person and don't go over
Jun 17, 2023 02:27 AM
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hokiebuyJun 17, 2023 02:27 AM
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Quote from ScottoDono :
Yes, 1.2tb unless you pay extra $10 for xFi Complete but I'm one person and don't go over
- Does xFi complete get you better upload speed?
- I see it gives router free for 2 years, so you just ship it back to them at end of 2 years?
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hokiebuyJun 17, 2023 02:30 AM
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Quote from ScottoDono :
I think I am going to basically give up on trying to use this as full service internet. Comcast has a deal thats $25 buck a month for 24 months after autopay for 200Mbps. My old plan was 75Mbps so I think 200 will be more than enough and I prefer the stability especially because I work from home.

Debating whether to sell the KVD21 on ebay or keep it for now as backup. Also, I am paying the $10 a month for the sim which I barely use but I know I should keep it because its such a good deal
Its a really good deal!!
Jun 17, 2023 05:12 AM
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ScottoDonoJun 17, 2023 05:12 AM
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Quote from hokiebuy :
- Does xFi complete get you better upload speed?
- I see it gives router free for 2 years, so you just ship it back to them at end of 2 years?

Yes it does give you better upload speed , but does that matter? Yes, you have to return the router when you are done with their service or the promo and want to sign up again in someone elses name

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HunterOneJun 19, 2023 05:40 PM
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Quote from Rdog :
I suspect you guys have hit your 10GB hotspot limit and are still "leaking" hotspot usage. I've ran into a similar issue where the speeds slow down once I hit the 10GB hotspot limit and was not updating the TTL thru some connections. You can verify your usage on from your T-Mobile account usage details. BTW, hotspot usage only shows in the usage details if you've used some, otherwise that section doesn't show at all. My understanding is if you have a VPN set up directly on your router, then it'll bypass the router's firewall rules for the TTL changes. See these two posts.

https://forum.gl-inet.com/t/chang...tl/2096/90
https://serverfault.com/questions...s-firewall
Correct!
After the billing period reset and so the hotspot reset to the allowed 10GB, the KVD21 WiFi hotspot speeds went back to normal, around 200Mbps vs the 200Kbps after the KVD21 sim hotspot was used up in the previous billing period.

Just have to make sure no devices accidentally auto-connect to the KVD21 WiFi hotspot, and all connect to the TTL modified Cudy X6 WiFi.

So, can rest easy that T-Mo has done nothing here with these $10 Sims that are used on other devices besides the Galaxy Tab A7 Lite.

One note, sometimes during the day, speeds can get well below 100Mbps up/down, around 50Mbps-70Mbps, probably due to network congestion, but most of the time they are between 100Mbps and 400Mbps, depending on the device used, Samsung Galaxy cell phone faster or older Win11 PC slower, etc. Older Win11PCs are slower but newer ones are very fast just like the new Samsung Galaxy cell phones, S21, S22, S23. Most likely WiFi 6 is a factor here, as older Win11 PC do not have it.
That's the drawback of using cellular internet vs Fios or cable hard wired connection.
Fios can give the same speed up or down, for instance 200/200Mbps, etc., but cable does not, usually giving 1/20th of the down speed going up, 200/10Mbps.
Last edited by HunterOne June 19, 2023 at 11:45 AM.

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