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Need to purchase reasonably priced equipment to run virtual meetings in a large conference room

361 59 March 29, 2022 at 01:33 PM
Hi, I am a tenant in a commercial space and a few times a month, I need to have Zoom meetings for group of about 20-40 in person and about the same amount calling in on Zoom. The problem I have is the room is very large and I am running it with my laptop with an external webcam mounted on a camera tripod.

The results are people who speak in the room can't be heard by the people on Zoom because the mic is integrated into the webcam and when people on Zoom speak, they can't be heard by people on the far ends of the conference room because the sound is coming off my computer speakers in the front of the room.

I am limited on where I can put my laptop because the ceiling mounted projector (so people in the room can see the Zoom on the screen) is connected via HDMI cable that only has about 6 feet of play.

I am requested your input/recommendation to an affordable solution in the $200- $250 range to fix resolve these issues The room does have a strong wifi signal.

Thanks
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komondor
03-29-2022 at 04:51 PM.
03-29-2022 at 04:51 PM.
First off you can get a HDMI Extension cable so you can move the laptop a little

this is 9 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/Extension-...r=1-4&th=1

you need probably one or even two of these speakerphones
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Spea...r=1-1&th=1




https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71O+sdT4Q0L._AC_SL1500_.jpg
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jkee
03-29-2022 at 06:24 PM.
03-29-2022 at 06:24 PM.
If there's any audio system, mics, even telephone speakerphone there may be ways to utilize that. Like the call in audio option on zoom.
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brownnugen
03-29-2022 at 07:11 PM.
03-29-2022 at 07:11 PM.
I should clarify the conference room ia more of a training room and is very large, I would estimate about 75 feet wide and 40 feet deep. There are no microphones or speakers built into the room. The only a/v equipment built into the room is the ceiling mounted projector.
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komondor
03-30-2022 at 06:20 AM.
03-30-2022 at 06:20 AM.
Just need to use the Bluetooth capability or since Covid is pretty much over have the people sit closer together.

There is no miracle answer that can change the rules of acoustics at a low cost.
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jkee
03-30-2022 at 08:01 AM.
03-30-2022 at 08:01 AM.
Quote from komondor :
you need probably one or even two of these speakerphones
Can you actually use multiple of those at the same time? Have you tried it?

When I've attempted things along those lines many years ago I wasn't very successful.

I did notice a speakerphone product on amazon that has two units that are connected by a long cable. I'd trust the Anker brand more, but interesting.
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03-30-2022 at 01:17 PM.
03-30-2022 at 01:17 PM.
Quote from jkee :
Can you actually use multiple of those at the same time? Have you tried it?

When I've attempted things along those lines many years ago I wasn't very successful.

I did notice a speakerphone product on amazon that has two units that are connected by a long cable. I'd trust the Anker brand more, but interesting.

Do you have a link to that product?
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jkee
03-30-2022 at 04:31 PM.
03-30-2022 at 04:31 PM.
Quote from brownnugen :
Do you have a link to that product?
It was just something that popped up under similar or recommended products. It didn't exactly impress me. Not sure if it's the same one I saw earlier or not but here's something similar: https://www.amazon.com/Luna-Speak...08M4544T5/
I'm not recommending or endorsing this

I also saw this https://www.amazon.com/Portable-B...083XYYFLQ/ which can also be daisy chained but is much more expensive. Again IDK if it's any good. There's also stuff like this but it's a gamble https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DYGX1E8/

You're dealing with a relatively large room. It's going to be challenging, but almost anything is likely an improvement. With some third party software you might be able to combine multiple usb or bluetooth mics into a virtual microphone you can point zoom or other video conf software to. Something to research. It's going to take a decent amount of research and trial and error to figure out what's going to work for you.

The Polycom Poly 40 or Poly 60 allow you to pair two units together wirelessly according to the website. The Anker PowerConf S500 also supports pairing 2 units ($440 for a pair), the other Anker models don't https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08W24YDSC/ https://us.ankerwork.com/products...ef=compare

I'm not sure your budget is that realistic if you really want to mic the whole room and have 40 people in person participating, but again almost anything would be an improvement.
Another option is the used market: ebay, thrift stores, specialty confinement / pawn shops. Audio systems for conference rooms are the sort of thing big companies spend a lot on and sometimes rip out and replace without a lot of reason. They treat IP phones similarly.

As a "low tech" (lol) solution you could conference a few iphones on the table on speakerphone together and call into the zoom meeting.
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03-30-2022 at 05:53 PM.
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Quote from jkee :
Another option is the used market: ebay, thrift stores, specialty confinement / pawn shops. Audio systems for conference rooms are the sort of thing big companies spend a lot on and sometimes rip out and replace without a lot of reason.
As an example things like this can be found cheaply on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293507257932
However it would take a bit of work to be able to interface something like this with a computer running zoom (either with a functional voip phone line or a SIP server and some other software). Who knows what kind of shape the batteries on those microphones are in or how easy they would be to replace. If you have an IT dept at your disposal, this likely one of the cheaper options.
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dayv
03-31-2022 at 08:50 AM.
03-31-2022 at 08:50 AM.
Quote from jkee :
As a "low tech" (lol) solution you could conference a few iphones on the table on speakerphone together and call into the zoom meeting.
this would be a cool idea, just use some cheap android devices. the issue you'll run into is feedback and echos.

for what op wants to do, the best solution is a ceiling microphone array with a receiver. no idea the cost. i think most conference room speakerphone bases only support 2 external mics.

we have sets of older polycon "starfish" that have a speakerphone base with 2 puck mics (w/ mute buttons). you can cover a decent conference room with 1 (10x25). i'm not sure the viability of using multiples since you'd likely run into the echo/feedback problem.
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03-31-2022 at 09:02 AM.
03-31-2022 at 09:02 AM.
Quote from dayv :
this would be a cool idea, just use some cheap android devices. the issue you'll run into is feedback and echos.

for what op wants to do, the best solution is a ceiling microphone array with a receiver. no idea the cost. i think most conference room speakerphone bases only support 2 external mics.
Any delay could result in echos. What you'd have to do is have the speaker volume on most if not all of the phones turned down. You might be able to connect one to a wired external speaker (less delay). You'd also have to selectively mute the phones depending on who's talking. Messy but may be possible.

It's a pretty big room that may have a pretty tall ceiling which could make anything ceiling mounted challenging.

Acoustically it sounds like a challenging space, especially on a low budget. However, compared to using the mic built into a webcam almost anything's an improvement.
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04-23-2022 at 01:47 PM.
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Quote from jkee :
It was just something that popped up under similar or recommended products. It didn't exactly impress me. Not sure if it's the same one I saw earlier or not but here's something similar: https://www.amazon.com/Luna-Speak...08M4544T5/
I'm not recommending or endorsing this

I also saw this https://www.amazon.com/Portable-B...083XYYFLQ/ which can also be daisy chained but is much more expensive. Again IDK if it's any good. There's also stuff like this but it's a gamble https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DYGX1E8/

You're dealing with a relatively large room. It's going to be challenging, but almost anything is likely an improvement. With some third party software you might be able to combine multiple usb or bluetooth mics into a virtual microphone you can point zoom or other video conf software to. Something to research. It's going to take a decent amount of research and trial and error to figure out what's going to work for you.

The Polycom Poly 40 or Poly 60 allow you to pair two units together wirelessly according to the website. The Anker PowerConf S500 also supports pairing 2 units ($440 for a pair), the other Anker models don't https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08W24YDSC/ https://us.ankerwork.com/products...ef=compare

I'm not sure your budget is that realistic if you really want to mic the whole room and have 40 people in person participating, but again almost anything would be an improvement.
Another option is the used market: ebay, thrift stores, specialty confinement / pawn shops. Audio systems for conference rooms are the sort of thing big companies spend a lot on and sometimes rip out and replace without a lot of reason. They treat IP phones similarly.

As a "low tech" (lol) solution you could conference a few iphones on the table on speakerphone together and call into the zoom meeting.

Just to follow up, I went with jkee's suggestion and tried the Luna 2 speakerphone system.

I hooked them up to my laptop via Bluetooth and set the Zoom speaker and mic to one of Luna speakerphones (only one connected on BT but the 2 speakerphones are connected together with a long cable).

It worked out really good and I could mute the mic through my laptop.
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