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Completely agree. As an enthusiast who build computers for friends and family, if someone came to me today and asked me for a $2000 gaming computer I would point them to this. Just main components wise it's a very good deal.
i7 12700k - not top of the line but just 1 step below it. Such a better value vs i9.
3080 - I always consider XX70 to be the minimum needed to call it an enthusiast level gaming computer. 3080 is a meaningful step up and $/FPS is still very good. 3080 Ti onwards the value proposition falls of a cliff for 'gaming'
16 GB RAM - speaking purely on gaming terms, it's enough. You won't see the quantity of RAM be a bottleneck. Very few games are sensitive enough to high speed RAM to justify higher spending. So long as the RAM is running at 3200 - 3600 you should be fine
1 TB SSD - Enough for windows + apps + 3/4 of your most played games. If space is really a constraint because of a large game library, buy an additional HDD for the not so often played games. Media can obviously stay in HDD.
Thus, in my opinion this computer makes the right compromises and strikes the right balance to call itself an enthusiast level gaming computer
Raptor Lake isn't coming until 2nd half of 2022, and sources seem to put it around September. This i7 (12th gen) was released Nov 2021, placing the CPU right in the middle of the release cycle. People can continue to wait until Fall, and see if the more expensive 13th gen CPUs and Motherboards change pricing. At that point, perhaps they should wait until next year to see pricing drop even more? As for a good deal, I don't think you'll find a better sub $2k PC right now. But like with most technology, prices will likely drop over time...., so today, this is a good deal.
This looks like the deal I've been waiting for. 12th gen intel + 3080. But think I'm going to wait on a few more comments from people smarter than me first before jumping.
I jumped on the i9 ibuypower deal and had no issues with the shipping and everything. If this meets your needs, you should go for it and start enjoying a new system instead of waiting for another two months to save a little.
Looks like this deal slaps hard and is very decent for the specs. What's the argument that I shouldn't upgrade my dying i5 2500k and gtx 1070 for this beast?
How likely are you going to get a better deal with this kind of specs built in?
If you have waited this long just keep waiting, prices should be far lower for soon to be outdated Processors/GPUs. This is okay for those that need a computer right now and cannot wait, otherwise hold out.. but I cannot say it is a good deal in general.
With this logic, why bother buying a computer at all until we have Star Trek like CPU with holograms coming out our butts.
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I want to upgrade my PC as well, but my first prebuild PC came with no brand name GPU... Is this the same that I would see no name brand GPU?
It really doesn't matter I guess but still deciding... put 1 part at the time and build or this...
Looks like this deal slaps hard and is very decent for the specs. What's the argument that I shouldn't upgrade my dying i5 2500k and gtx 1070 for this beast?
How likely are you going to get a better deal with this kind of specs built in?
Just pulled the trigger on it, looked like a solid deal, would be nice to get 32gb for the price but hey that's a nice video card Hope wifey doesn't flip out with she sees the credit card bill
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i7 12700k - not top of the line but just 1 step below it. Such a better value vs i9.
3080 - I always consider XX70 to be the minimum needed to call it an enthusiast level gaming computer. 3080 is a meaningful step up and $/FPS is still very good. 3080 Ti onwards the value proposition falls of a cliff for 'gaming'
16 GB RAM - speaking purely on gaming terms, it's enough. You won't see the quantity of RAM be a bottleneck. Very few games are sensitive enough to high speed RAM to justify higher spending. So long as the RAM is running at 3200 - 3600 you should be fine
1 TB SSD - Enough for windows + apps + 3/4 of your most played games. If space is really a constraint because of a large game library, buy an additional HDD for the not so often played games. Media can obviously stay in HDD.
Thus, in my opinion this computer makes the right compromises and strikes the right balance to call itself an enthusiast level gaming computer
This looks like the deal I've been waiting for. 12th gen intel + 3080. But think I'm going to wait on a few more comments from people smarter than me first before jumping.
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How likely are you going to get a better deal with this kind of specs built in?
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It really doesn't matter I guess but still deciding... put 1 part at the time and build or this...
How likely are you going to get a better deal with this kind of specs built in?
I've been holding out since IBM 486/DX (the one with the Turbo button) to get a decent desktop to power my nuclear missile silo...
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