The Stride is a commuter style class 2 E-Bike that has both throttle and pedal assist, top speed of 20 MPH and 40 mile range.
The Groove is a foldable fat tire bike that can go a little more off-road riding and can fold into a trunk and has a 45 mile range, also class 2 with 20 MPH max speed.
Bafang motors are considered more reliable hub motors and the li-ion battery packs are CL certified.
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Also available, GEN3Ride.com has their GEN3 The Groove 500W Folding Fat Tire E-Bike for $1199 - $300 w/ coupon code SUMMER = $899. Shipping is free.
Note: Currently out of stock. more to become available by September 30, 2022.
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The Stride is a commuter style class 2 E-Bike that has both throttle and pedal assist, top speed of 20 MPH and 40 mile range.
The Groove is a foldable fat tire bike that can go a little more off-road riding and can fold into a trunk and has a 45 mile range, also class 2 with 20 MPH max speed.
Bafang motors are considered more reliable hub motors and the li-ion battery packs are CL certified.
About this deal:
Refer to the forum thread for additional information & offer discussion.
No longer available:
Also available, GEN3Ride.com has their GEN3 The Groove 500W Folding Fat Tire E-Bike for $1199 - $300 w/ coupon code SUMMER = $899. Shipping is free.
Note: Currently out of stock. more to become available by September 30, 2022.
It seems that staff has taken over the edits since this went front page. Soo here is my update in comments:
Package arrived today 7/5 via FedEx
It took me about 35 minutes to assemble (I am experienced so take that into account)
*One odd issue was the derailleur protector needed to be bent outwards to allow the bike to shift into lower gears. There was a tag zip-tied to the derailleur to let you know that this step might need to be done.
*Another tip, the disc brakes cable needed to be tightened to create a better stopping power with less effort. There was no warping of rotors or any issues with brakes.
The build quality and parts were much better than I had anticipated for a $900 e-bike considering the price for a replacement battery is $350, they did a good job with the other parts to keep the price down. I was pleasantly surprised to see the Bafang motor which are high quality motors specified as well as the entry level Shimano shifter.
I had test ridden a friend's similar model (KBO Breeze) to the Stride but with a 750W motor and 50miles range, the motor was almost too powerful and the bike was heavier making it a bit unwieldy at first, I like how the 500w on the Stride doesn't make you feel unsafe as you take-off, the 750w was a bit extreme. This is our first e-bike so the 20 mph top end seemed like a good place to start. My son an my wife both tested the bike after I safety checked it and both commented on how much they liked it and it was great to se a big smile on my wife's face as she returned to the driveway after her test ride of her new bike.
In Summary, at $900 I believe there are not many options in the market that will come close to the value of this bike. I am very exited that my wife will now be more willing to ride with the family when we go on bike cruises. She was reluctant to go as we (me and the boys) were 'too fast' and always felt like she was holding us up. Now we will probably be the ones holding her up
About me: I have 13 bikes at my house between my wife and children. I have been working on bikes for about 15 years as a hobby, and necessity, with my small fleet of bikes. I have bikes ranging from about $450-$5600 (Ibis Ripmo Carbon Fox Factory).
FedEx delivered the Groove today. It was packaged well (tons of foam) and there was no damage. There is some sort of adhesive on the upper rear frame I need to clean off. Assembly was straightforward. The only thing that need adjustment was the stem alignment with the front wheel. I squared it up as well as I could, but the front tire seems to be slightly out of alignment with the midpoint of the frame. Will I return it for that? Probably not, but it is a QA/QC issue I see with lower end bicycles. It's probably much more noticeable on a fat tire bike. Here are my initial impressions after the first ride.
I rode the bike 11 miles with what I think was a fully charged battery (three bars on the indicator). The terrain was a mixture of paved bike trails, hard pack rutted out off road trails, and streets. There were some hills that nearly give me a heart attack on a regular pedal bike, not that I'm in good shape anymore following the COVID weight gain.
Motor: Lots of torque. I'm no expert with e-bikes, but was impressed with the torque off the line and up hills. I've seen others upgrade the motor, but I think this is adequate. I don't see spending another $300-400 for a few more MPH (previous posted in the thread is helpful for this point too). The only disappointment I had was it couldn't throttle me up a steep section of a trail. It's a very difficult section on a pedal bike geared down, so I'm not surprised it struggled.
Fork: Adequate, but not for off road at all. I bottomed it out terribly on the hard pack trails. It will take some minor excursions on trails if you keep it under 10-12 MPH. Anything over that and it bottoms harshly. I honestly think I broke the suspension already doing 15-20 MPH on the trails.
Brakes: Awful, just awful. I followed the break in procedure and even cleaned the rotors with brake cleaner prior to riding. I'll adjust and reassess. I might also soft wheel the rotors with a die grinder and file the pads slightly if I see any glossy areas. This is a cheap upgrade if needed. The motor's speed ability is more than the brakes can handle. That's always a nightmare on a motorcycle.
Handling: This bike has a very very light front end. On the trails, I could easily pop the front tire up going over any sort of bumps or rises in the trail (not what I'd call a jump) . There are two things I will point out with this observation. One, it wheelies easier and two, it under steers. The under steer worries me on trails and it will only be worse with a rear rack installed and loaded up. On the road, its less of an issue, but it won't like a quick turn on a wet road. This handling characteristic makes sense as the bike is long and the battery and motor sit behind the bottom bracket. The Lectric XP 2.0, based on its in frame battery, likely handles more balanced. If you watch the review of a rider taking this on the mountain bike trails, I believe the challenge the rider faced was more due to the light front end than the width of the handle bars and fat tires.
Tires: Noisy as hell on pavement. I'll get slicks if I plan to commute on this bike. Decent traction off road.
Battery Life: I throttled up and down hills, PAS 5, and generally hammered on it, and returned with the display showing full battery. The on battery indicator showed two bars. I think a reasonable commute would be doable on this range without breaking a sweat.
Fit and Finish: The seat is a better stock seat than most cheaper pedal bikes I've ridden. Upgrades are a plenty. Handle bar position is pretty high for trail riding, but otherwise okay. That's just how most of these fold up bikes seem to be designed. The one nasty thing I noticed was the handle bar rocks a little bit in the top clamp. It's a fold up, so its not going to be as firmly mounted as a bolted down stem clamp. The pedals are decent BMX style metal pedals. The controls are easy to use, although the display is very basic. The brake levers seem okay, and have nice rubber inserts. The derailleur worked okay, but I noticed some racket while riding. I think the guard is pushed up against it. Nothing pliers can't fix. It shifted through the gears okay, but I only used 6 and 7 for the entire ride. The motor has the typical RC car sound, but I don't have much to compared against. I think the front chain ring is too small for a faster commute. Once you are up to 18 MPH and PAS 4 or 5, you are racing to keep the pedals turning fast enough to match the assist. The last item I'll mention is the motor controller location. It is not water resistant at all. I do not recommend riding in the rain or even through a minor puddle. The electronics will get wet. This is the biggest design flaw I noticed. The in frame battery bikes are likely much better suited for wet weather and puddles.
Would I recommend, yes, but consider what is important to you. It's a good a multipurpose bike without a major strength or weakness.
The motor controller is at the bottom end of the battery compartment. There are two small screws that hold the black plastic part that houses the contacts. Remove the screws and carefully pull the wiring out. You'll see the motor controller stuffed in there and you'll need to pull that out carefully as it's connected to the wiring harness on the side closer to the bottom bracket. Once you pull the motor controller out get enough, you can access the yellow and green cable to disconnect without needing to disconnect any other wires. You'll need to push the harness back into the tube along with the motor controller being mindful to not pinch the cables out damage the charge port. Place the black plastic part with the contacts and fasten with the screws. Note that one screw is a wood screw style thread and the other is a machine screw. Test all the functions after reassembly (charging and power on/off).
Good, you got that sorted out. Unfortunately no similarly easy solution for me. I removed the battery from the bike and plugged it straight to the charger. Still refuses to charge.
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Actually one of two wires by the handle was disconnected. Once both wires/cables were securely connected, all is good.
The battery still shows 2 green and 1 red so I have no idea what that means. I will just leave it connected to the charger for a while and see what happens.
Btw I bought a Groove and this is thing is quite big. I am 5'8 and still I out the seat all the way down.
Does anyone know how to turn on and off the red warning light thing that came with the bike?
I removed a plastic flim that was inside yet it looks like there is no power button to turn on and off?
I put brand new AAA batteries but still it does not do anything.
Can't return the bike because of this but it would be nice if this thing can be turned on and off.
On the Stride? You're telling me on the bottom there of the rear light there is no switch? It's there, has to be. On the bottom of the light not the top or back
On the Stride? You're telling me on the bottom there of the rear light there is no switch? It's there, has to be. On the bottom of the light not the top or back
It is defective. It does have a button but it does nothing.
Got the Wallke F1 today. Behind a large sticker on the frame I can barely see another name for the bike and it is GEN3.
From Wallke site:
"Wallke was founded in March 2018, Guangzhou, and is owned by Liesheng Trading LLC. Our company address is, Guangzhou Liesheng Trading Co., Ltd, Room 203, No.188 Jianshe North Road, Huadu District, Guangzhou."
Gen3, we know, is in Bellevue, WA.
Likely two separate companies distributing the same bike manufactured, like most products, by an unnamed third party.
On the Stride? You're telling me on the bottom there of the rear light there is no switch? It's there, has to be. On the bottom of the light not the top or back
Something tells me that's going to be a one dee ten tee error.
Even at level 1 or 2, as soon as you rotate the pedal, it flies right out. I like it but I feel I need to soend some more time to get used to its response rate.
The rotors, however, are a bit too close to the brake pads that they make some noise at low speed so I may need to adjust them a bit. But how??
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What happens when you plug in the charger? Does it show red light on the charger brick or green?
I bought two bikes from them. A Groove and a Stride. Groove works well. Stride's battery appears dead on arrival. When I press the battery status button, it flashes red. Means the battery is depleted. When I plug in the charger, the charger thinks the battery is fully charged and turns on the green light on the charger brick.
I have submitted a support ticket. But I don't expect to hear back anytime soon.
Can you switch the Stride battery to the Groove? Then try to charge it. If you are able to charge it, then the Stride has a loose connection somewhere (or that charger doesn't work). I think it's unusual for a new battery to show up dead.
Actually one of two wires by the handle was disconnected. Once both wires/cables were securely connected, all is good.
The battery still shows 2 green and 1 red so I have no idea what that means. I will just leave it connected to the charger for a while and see what happens.
Btw I bought a Groove and this is thing is quite big. I am 5'8 and still I out the seat all the way down.
The same here. Bit nerve racking to not have it fire up. I suspect they unhook it for safety when shipping and I might have missed some section of the manual in my childlike haste to put my new toy together.
I got my groove today, ordered on July 1st. It is insanely fast and should never be used without a helmet. This is nothing short of a moped, the chain and pedels are only for show. That's my PSA for the day. Good night.
The battery still shows 2 green and 1 red so I have no idea what that means. I will just leave it connected to the charger for a while and see what happens.
That's normal — the last LED will always be red.
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Does anyone know how to turn on and off the red warning light thing that came with the bike?
I removed a plastic flim that was inside yet it looks like there is no power button to turn on and off?
I put brand new AAA batteries but still it does not do anything.
Can't return the bike because of this but it would be nice if this thing can be turned on and off.
The flat side has a power icon etched into it, just press it firmly by pinching the whole thing between two fingers. Another press makes it flash. Mine's finicky but it works.
Does anyone know how to turn on and off the red warning light thing that came with the bike?
I removed a plastic flim that was inside yet it looks like there is no power button to turn on and off?
I put brand new AAA batteries but still it does not do anything.
Can't return the bike because of this but it would be nice if this thing can be turned on and off.
When I pulled the plastic film out it tore and a bit was still stuck between the battery and the terminal so no power. Open the case (twist something between the two little nubs at the bottom) and check the battery contacts. Then put it back together and look closely at the top and there's a little circle in the red part. It takes a firm push.
I am totally new to biking (been a few decades since I rode one).
The real issue is that this damn thing, after putting so much time and efforts putting it together, now does not turn on. The battery is on position so I am going to charge it up for a few hours and see what happens. I pressed and hold M button but nothing.
When I press and hold the button on the battery, it shows 2 green and 1 red. Does this mean this battery is totally dead?
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I am totally new to biking (been a few decades since I rode one).
The real issue is that this damn thing, after putting so much time and efforts putting it together, now does not turn on. The battery is on position so I am going to charge it up for a few hours and see what happens. I pressed and hold M button but nothing.
When I press and hold the button on the battery, it shows 2 green and 1 red. Does this mean this battery is totally dead?
When I press and hold the button on the battery, it shows 2 green and 1 red. Does this mean this battery is totally dead? After 20 hours charging I still have 2 green and 1 red. Did you get anything from the company?
After 20 hours of charging I still have 2 green and 1 red. Did you get anything from the company?
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I got my groove today, ordered on July 1st. It is insanely fast and should never be used without a helmet. This is nothing short of a moped, the chain and pedels are only for show. That's my PSA for the day. Good night.
Flex for me and I agree 100%. Only have a 350 watt Walmart Hyper Ride to compare to but this thing is a beast compared to it. The wife all of a sudden does not like her Hyper Ride that she loved a day ago and I believe I have to track down another of these.
Love the power but the snappiness does take some getting used to. Switching from second to third in pedal assist will throw your head back a bit and even in first gear as some other have said you must be careful with the pedal assist or throttle; it is a bit jumpy. If you are in a tight spot or hit it accidentally it is going to jump on you and could throw the unwary down or have them hitting something. Hence you call for helmets. I don't really consider that all a downside just more of a rider having to figure out how to use their bike properly and safely ride. Besides that, I do have a very slightly out of true front rim and very minor brake rub that I have not looked at or straightened out as of yet.
I haven't even adjusted my brakes fully and while being sure that hydraulic might be much nicer think them m fine and more than adequate. If you are always going full blast downhill in gear 21 I guess that much more serious brakes might be nice if needed for a very sudden stop but most of my bike riding does not entail that high rate of speed. At level 5 power on flat road, they stop me pretty quickly and I'm sure will do better when further adjusted.
With my limited experience kept in mind, I do think this a spectacular value at the $899 price point. I paid $398 for the Hyper Ride on sale down from $598. The Hyper Ride is surprisingly, nice for the price of $400 but the Gen3 is definitely in another class, more than a few levels above and the much better value.
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Package arrived today 7/5 via FedEx
It took me about 35 minutes to assemble (I am experienced so take that into account)
*One odd issue was the derailleur protector needed to be bent outwards to allow the bike to shift into lower gears. There was a tag zip-tied to the derailleur to let you know that this step might need to be done.
*Another tip, the disc brakes cable needed to be tightened to create a better stopping power with less effort. There was no warping of rotors or any issues with brakes.
The build quality and parts were much better than I had anticipated for a $900 e-bike considering the price for a replacement battery is $350, they did a good job with the other parts to keep the price down. I was pleasantly surprised to see the Bafang motor which are high quality motors specified as well as the entry level Shimano shifter.
I had test ridden a friend's similar model (KBO Breeze) to the Stride but with a 750W motor and 50miles range, the motor was almost too powerful and the bike was heavier making it a bit unwieldy at first, I like how the 500w on the Stride doesn't make you feel unsafe as you take-off, the 750w was a bit extreme. This is our first e-bike so the 20 mph top end seemed like a good place to start. My son an my wife both tested the bike after I safety checked it and both commented on how much they liked it and it was great to se a big smile on my wife's face as she returned to the driveway after her test ride of her new bike.
KBO Breeze for comparison: https://kbobike.com/products/step...uting-bike
In Summary, at $900 I believe there are not many options in the market that will come close to the value of this bike. I am very exited that my wife will now be more willing to ride with the family when we go on bike cruises. She was reluctant to go as we (me and the boys) were 'too fast' and always felt like she was holding us up. Now we will probably be the ones holding her up
About me: I have 13 bikes at my house between my wife and children. I have been working on bikes for about 15 years as a hobby, and necessity, with my small fleet of bikes. I have bikes ranging from about $450-$5600 (Ibis Ripmo Carbon Fox Factory).
I rode the bike 11 miles with what I think was a fully charged battery (three bars on the indicator). The terrain was a mixture of paved bike trails, hard pack rutted out off road trails, and streets. There were some hills that nearly give me a heart attack on a regular pedal bike, not that I'm in good shape anymore following the COVID weight gain.
Motor: Lots of torque. I'm no expert with e-bikes, but was impressed with the torque off the line and up hills. I've seen others upgrade the motor, but I think this is adequate. I don't see spending another $300-400 for a few more MPH (previous posted in the thread is helpful for this point too). The only disappointment I had was it couldn't throttle me up a steep section of a trail. It's a very difficult section on a pedal bike geared down, so I'm not surprised it struggled.
Fork: Adequate, but not for off road at all. I bottomed it out terribly on the hard pack trails. It will take some minor excursions on trails if you keep it under 10-12 MPH. Anything over that and it bottoms harshly. I honestly think I broke the suspension already doing 15-20 MPH on the trails.
Brakes: Awful, just awful. I followed the break in procedure and even cleaned the rotors with brake cleaner prior to riding. I'll adjust and reassess. I might also soft wheel the rotors with a die grinder and file the pads slightly if I see any glossy areas. This is a cheap upgrade if needed. The motor's speed ability is more than the brakes can handle. That's always a nightmare on a motorcycle.
Handling: This bike has a very very light front end. On the trails, I could easily pop the front tire up going over any sort of bumps or rises in the trail (not what I'd call a jump) . There are two things I will point out with this observation. One, it wheelies easier and two, it under steers. The under steer worries me on trails and it will only be worse with a rear rack installed and loaded up. On the road, its less of an issue, but it won't like a quick turn on a wet road. This handling characteristic makes sense as the bike is long and the battery and motor sit behind the bottom bracket. The Lectric XP 2.0, based on its in frame battery, likely handles more balanced. If you watch the review of a rider taking this on the mountain bike trails, I believe the challenge the rider faced was more due to the light front end than the width of the handle bars and fat tires.
Tires: Noisy as hell on pavement. I'll get slicks if I plan to commute on this bike. Decent traction off road.
Battery Life: I throttled up and down hills, PAS 5, and generally hammered on it, and returned with the display showing full battery. The on battery indicator showed two bars. I think a reasonable commute would be doable on this range without breaking a sweat.
Fit and Finish: The seat is a better stock seat than most cheaper pedal bikes I've ridden. Upgrades are a plenty. Handle bar position is pretty high for trail riding, but otherwise okay. That's just how most of these fold up bikes seem to be designed. The one nasty thing I noticed was the handle bar rocks a little bit in the top clamp. It's a fold up, so its not going to be as firmly mounted as a bolted down stem clamp. The pedals are decent BMX style metal pedals. The controls are easy to use, although the display is very basic. The brake levers seem okay, and have nice rubber inserts. The derailleur worked okay, but I noticed some racket while riding. I think the guard is pushed up against it. Nothing pliers can't fix. It shifted through the gears okay, but I only used 6 and 7 for the entire ride. The motor has the typical RC car sound, but I don't have much to compared against. I think the front chain ring is too small for a faster commute. Once you are up to 18 MPH and PAS 4 or 5, you are racing to keep the pedals turning fast enough to match the assist. The last item I'll mention is the motor controller location. It is not water resistant at all. I do not recommend riding in the rain or even through a minor puddle. The electronics will get wet. This is the biggest design flaw I noticed. The in frame battery bikes are likely much better suited for wet weather and puddles.
Would I recommend, yes, but consider what is important to you. It's a good a multipurpose bike without a major strength or weakness.
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I removed a plastic flim that was inside yet it looks like there is no power button to turn on and off?
I put brand new AAA batteries but still it does not do anything.
Can't return the bike because of this but it would be nice if this thing can be turned on and off.
The battery still shows 2 green and 1 red so I have no idea what that means. I will just leave it connected to the charger for a while and see what happens.
Btw I bought a Groove and this is thing is quite big. I am 5'8 and still I out the seat all the way down.
I removed a plastic flim that was inside yet it looks like there is no power button to turn on and off?
I put brand new AAA batteries but still it does not do anything.
Can't return the bike because of this but it would be nice if this thing can be turned on and off.
"Wallke was founded in March 2018, Guangzhou, and is owned by Liesheng Trading LLC. Our company address is, Guangzhou Liesheng Trading Co., Ltd, Room 203, No.188 Jianshe North Road, Huadu District, Guangzhou."
Gen3, we know, is in Bellevue, WA.
Likely two separate companies distributing the same bike manufactured, like most products, by an unnamed third party.
Just took it out for a round and it is very fast.
Even at level 1 or 2, as soon as you rotate the pedal, it flies right out. I like it but I feel I need to soend some more time to get used to its response rate.
The rotors, however, are a bit too close to the brake pads that they make some noise at low speed so I may need to adjust them a bit. But how??
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I bought two bikes from them. A Groove and a Stride. Groove works well. Stride's battery appears dead on arrival. When I press the battery status button, it flashes red. Means the battery is depleted. When I plug in the charger, the charger thinks the battery is fully charged and turns on the green light on the charger brick.
I have submitted a support ticket. But I don't expect to hear back anytime soon.
The battery still shows 2 green and 1 red so I have no idea what that means. I will just leave it connected to the charger for a while and see what happens.
Btw I bought a Groove and this is thing is quite big. I am 5'8 and still I out the seat all the way down.
I removed a plastic flim that was inside yet it looks like there is no power button to turn on and off?
I put brand new AAA batteries but still it does not do anything.
Can't return the bike because of this but it would be nice if this thing can be turned on and off.
I'll be replacing it with a reflector [amazon.com] that mounts on the rack I just installed [amazon.com].
The rotors, however, are a bit too close to the brake pads that they make some noise at low speed so I may need to adjust them a bit. But how??
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I removed a plastic flim that was inside yet it looks like there is no power button to turn on and off?
I put brand new AAA batteries but still it does not do anything.
Can't return the bike because of this but it would be nice if this thing can be turned on and off.
The real issue is that this damn thing, after putting so much time and efforts putting it together, now does not turn on. The battery is on position so I am going to charge it up for a few hours and see what happens. I pressed and hold M button but nothing.
When I press and hold the button on the battery, it shows 2 green and 1 red. Does this mean this battery is totally dead?
The real issue is that this damn thing, after putting so much time and efforts putting it together, now does not turn on. The battery is on position so I am going to charge it up for a few hours and see what happens. I pressed and hold M button but nothing.
When I press and hold the button on the battery, it shows 2 green and 1 red. Does this mean this battery is totally dead?
When I press and hold the button on the battery, it shows 2 green and 1 red. Does this mean this battery is totally dead? After 20 hours charging I still have 2 green and 1 red. Did you get anything from the company?
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Love the power but the snappiness does take some getting used to. Switching from second to third in pedal assist will throw your head back a bit and even in first gear as some other have said you must be careful with the pedal assist or throttle; it is a bit jumpy. If you are in a tight spot or hit it accidentally it is going to jump on you and could throw the unwary down or have them hitting something. Hence you call for helmets. I don't really consider that all a downside just more of a rider having to figure out how to use their bike properly and safely ride. Besides that, I do have a very slightly out of true front rim and very minor brake rub that I have not looked at or straightened out as of yet.
I haven't even adjusted my brakes fully and while being sure that hydraulic might be much nicer think them m fine and more than adequate. If you are always going full blast downhill in gear 21 I guess that much more serious brakes might be nice if needed for a very sudden stop but most of my bike riding does not entail that high rate of speed. At level 5 power on flat road, they stop me pretty quickly and I'm sure will do better when further adjusted.
With my limited experience kept in mind, I do think this a spectacular value at the $899 price point. I paid $398 for the Hyper Ride on sale down from $598. The Hyper Ride is surprisingly, nice for the price of $400 but the Gen3 is definitely in another class, more than a few levels above and the much better value.
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