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Jul 09, 2022 01:07 PM
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jd2010Jul 09, 2022 01:07 PM
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Are the leaks accurate that a 4070 will be competitive with this and at a sub $500 price point?

Looking to put a build together but doesn't make sense to if that's accurate.
Jul 09, 2022 01:09 PM
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BlueCorn773Jul 09, 2022 01:09 PM
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Quote from jd2010 :
Are the leaks accurate that a 4070 will be competitive with this and at a sub $500 price point?

Looking to put a build together but doesn't make sense to if that's accurate.
Yes it will. I doubt it will be $500 at first launch but will be in that range after a few months.
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Quote from jd2010 :
Are the leaks accurate that a 4070 will be competitive with this and at a sub $500 price point?

Looking to put a build together but doesn't make sense to if that's accurate.
I do believe a 4070 will fall somewhere between the 3080-3090. The current gen 3070 traded blows with the 2080 Ti. The only thing that wasn't close was the the $500 price tag up until recently! Mad
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Jul 09, 2022 01:35 PM
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spectheintroJul 09, 2022 01:35 PM
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Quote from jd2010 :
Are the leaks accurate that a 4070 will be competitive with this and at a sub $500 price point?

Looking to put a build together but doesn't make sense to if that's accurate.
Honestly, I sincerely doubt it. Turing was a minor improvement over Pascal. Ampere represented a pretty large improvement over Turing, but with a high power envelope. Sources show pretty uniformly that Nvidia's power envelope is even higher this time around. I don't see that translating into big performance gains. My gut tells me this is going to be another Turing generation, which wasn't a meaningful improvement. There's also the issue of availability; even though crypto is down, I still don't think inventory is going to be good.

AMD's cards are the wild card this year. Rumors claim they've made pretty big year over year gains while maintaining power efficiency. I'm not seeing those same sorts of rumors from Nvidia.
Jul 09, 2022 01:40 PM
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OzzforesterJul 09, 2022 01:40 PM
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Got this card from microcenter last week and I totally regret it, even at idle tempratures the back plate gets too hot to touch, load temps are way too high. Seems like Nvidia is ignoring efficiency and just making their cards more and more power hungry to crush the comp.
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Jul 09, 2022 09:09 PM
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worstepeverJul 09, 2022 09:09 PM
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Quote from Ozzforester :
Got this card from microcenter last week and I totally regret it, even at idle tempratures the back plate gets too hot to touch, load temps are way too high. Seems like Nvidia is ignoring efficiency and just making their cards more and more power hungry to crush the comp.
That GDDR6X runs HOT. Not uncommon for the ram modules to hit 90-100C during load. They are rated up to 105-110C before throttling, but damn, thats toasty.
Jul 10, 2022 12:27 AM
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smilingpsychoJul 10, 2022 12:27 AM
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Quote from spectheintro :
Honestly, I sincerely doubt it. Turing was a minor improvement over Pascal. Ampere represented a pretty large improvement over Turing, but with a high power envelope. Sources show pretty uniformly that Nvidia's power envelope is even higher this time around. I don't see that translating into big performance gains. My gut tells me this is going to be another Turing generation, which wasn't a meaningful improvement. There's also the issue of availability; even though crypto is down, I still don't think inventory is going to be good.

AMD's cards are the wild card this year. Rumors claim they've made pretty big year over year gains while maintaining power efficiency. I'm not seeing those same sorts of rumors from Nvidia.
Knowing Nvidia, they, as company, do not want to be second fiddle to AMD. Otherwise, they will start to lose market share. Nvidia WILL do whatever it can to be number 1 including raising the power usage. I can see Nvidia pushing SKUs with 600-900 watts if they start to lag behind AMD. AMD is really pushing themselves too. A lot of the rumors are beginning to gain traction. At this point in time, I would even claim them as leaks instead of rumors. We're in July, within 3-4 months from now the next generation of GPUs will launch.

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Jul 10, 2022 02:09 PM
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spectheintroJul 10, 2022 02:09 PM
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Quote from smilingpsycho :
Knowing Nvidia, they, as company, do not want to be second fiddle to AMD. Otherwise, they will start to lose market share. Nvidia WILL do whatever it can to be number 1 including raising the power usage. I can see Nvidia pushing SKUs with 600-900 watts if they start to lag behind AMD. AMD is really pushing themselves too. A lot of the rumors are beginning to gain traction. At this point in time, I would even claim them as leaks instead of rumors. We're in July, within 3-4 months from now the next generation of GPUs will launch.
I'm sure nVidia doesn't *want* to lose to AMD, but they appear to be stuck. Ampere required a pretty big increase in power envelope to begin with, and it scaled less and less efficiently as more power was pushed into it. A lot of the speculation around nVidia's 4000-series echoes the froth around the 3000-series, which was pretty overplayed. (For example, a lot of the wild performance improvements over previous gens ended up being after DLSS.)

AMD's chiplet design, however, clearly has a lot of gas left in the tank. The RX6000-series was their first real go at the crown (I don't count the Radeon VII, that was basically vaporware) and while they didn't get it (and their OEMs going crazy with price didn't help) they delivered way, way more power efficient performance than nVidia.

AMD could still bork things (they're actually kind of great at doing that on the GPU side) but I'm not convinced that nVidia's 4000-series is going to be the huge improvement the internet wants it to be. I hope I'm wrong, and this is the generation where we get awesome, performant cards for cheap. But I'm not holding my breath.
Jul 13, 2022 06:58 PM
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mkdevoJul 13, 2022 06:58 PM
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Jul 14, 2022 02:22 PM
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FutilityJul 14, 2022 02:22 PM
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Does it come with a free copy of New World MMO?
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Jul 14, 2022 02:42 PM
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ptt1404Jul 14, 2022 02:42 PM
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Does it come with a free copy of New World MMO?
yes and it comes with the RMA box incase you need
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so, which would you rather spend your money from selling kidney on? this video card or grocery and gas bills?
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Jul 14, 2022 03:12 PM
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RidgewalkerJul 14, 2022 03:12 PM
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so, which would you rather spend your money from selling kidney on? this video card or grocery and gas bills?
both
Jul 14, 2022 06:10 PM
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schnitterJul 14, 2022 06:10 PM
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Quote from jd2010 :
Are the leaks accurate that a 4070 will be competitive with this and at a sub $500 price point?

Looking to put a build together but doesn't make sense to if that's accurate.
Absolutely 0 chance a 4070 will be as powerful as this. Not even when they held back performance at the release of 2000 because AMD couldn't compete did the 1070 come anywhere close to the 2080ti. They also used ray tracing as an excuse back then for why the performance didn't have a big leap. I think people will be regretting holding off for something they won't be able to buy for a while and the performance will be less than they expect.

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Jul 14, 2022 07:44 PM
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Adrian1984Jul 14, 2022 07:44 PM
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Quote from schnitter :
Absolutely 0 chance a 4070 will be as powerful as this. Not even when they held back performance at the release of 2000 because AMD couldn't compete did the 1070 come anywhere close to the 2080ti. They also used ray tracing as an excuse back then for why the performance didn't have a big leap. I think people will be regretting holding off for something they won't be able to buy for a while and the performance will be less than they expect.
I remember that the 2000 series excuse was raytracing. My RTX 2070 wasn't as powerful as my gtx 1080. Hopefully AMD and Nvidia releases a moderate boost. I am assuming the 4080 will be equivalent to a 3090, but will be using 16gb max.

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