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expiredDLS4U | Staff posted Aug 4, 2022 7:08 PM

Select Utility Companies: Google Nest Thermostat

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Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.

Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.

Offer Notes:
  • Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):

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Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Please refer to forum thread for additional qualifying Utility Companies participating in this offer, as well as deal discussion.
    • Offer valid for a limited time.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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Written by DLS4U | Staff
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Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.

Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.

Offer Notes:
  • Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Please refer to forum thread for additional qualifying Utility Companies participating in this offer, as well as deal discussion.
    • Offer valid for a limited time.
    • Must be a current account holder with the listed utility provider in order to qualify for this sale pricing. Availability may vary by location.

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djagger
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I came here expecting some of these replies and wanted to give a reasonable answer.

First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.

Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.

I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.

My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
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F*** Tennessee
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djagger
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You're energy usage is the product. Utilities offer rebates for these types of products (just like LED lights or insulation) because they can save energy. Most utilities in the United States are decoupled from their revenue. Meaning that the utility receives the same revenue regardless of the energy they delivery. So it's in their best interest to help you save energy. You as their utility consumer using less energy = the utility having to delivery less energy or build more energy infrastructure. That's the entire point here.

It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
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Aug 5, 2022 8:16 PM
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RinaldoAug 5, 2022 8:16 PM
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Stupid FL
Aug 5, 2022 8:39 PM
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Luds34Aug 5, 2022 8:39 PM
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Quote from Wildgift :
I had a hell of a time keeping the nests online without a C wire. There is an adapter Google will sell you. It worked for one of my nests. And the other one, they just ran a C wire from the relays in the attic. They work fine now
Did you have the fancier version I wonder? (more power draw maybe??) I installed the newer (regular) nest last summer. I had a C wire behind the old thermostat unused so I hooked it up. Worked fine for a couple months and then after a long power outage I was getting all sorts of battery low messages, etc. Turned out the C wire wasn't hooked up at the furnace. I've been running powered now ever since.

In short I (and I know others) have had success with no C wire on the regular nest thermostat. BUT personally would never have purchased without access to a C wire and running fully powered.
Aug 5, 2022 8:41 PM
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colickyboyAug 5, 2022 8:41 PM
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Quote from djagger :
What you said was "utility companies will control your thermostat even during non-peak periods." - in my reading at least that meant all utility companies as you did not add a qualifier. You also didn't mention that it will be clear when you want to purchase a device if your utility is one of those "some." So this isn't something that will happen without a persons knowledge or consent and that you as the consumer, ALWAYS have final control. And that the demand response offered by the utilities is part of the trade off, they give you discounted stuff and ongoing revenue from participation, and you shift your load (e.g., increase your thermostat cooling setting) in return. Seems pretty fair to me. You're two sentence quip omits all of that nuance and real-world details in place of something catchy that makes the utilities look bad for offering this discount.

I could have said "misleading" instead of "sensationalizing." I wanted to add some real context to the situation as nothing is ever so black and white and writing a comment implying that it is (by omitting the nuance) is misleading to anyone who isn't already familiar with the details.
I've seen the option on my Nest asking if I want to join. I selected no. And I still have the thermostat frequently set to a temperature I've never set it to (so it's not learning that temperature from my past settings)—even in non-peak periods—and Nest also has told me that the temp I'm trying to set will happen in x number of minutes in the future (amount of time has varied) and the system will not turn on until that time has elapsed.

So you saying "this isn't something that will happen without a persons knowledge or consent and that you as the consumer, ALWAYS have final control" is what they want you to believe, but in my personal experience, that is not true. I used to believe what you believed and made the same arguments until I saw what was happening to me.
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Aug 5, 2022 8:47 PM
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ThePeoplesElbowAug 5, 2022 8:47 PM
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Can you join then opt out?
Aug 5, 2022 8:49 PM
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LascielsAug 5, 2022 8:49 PM
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Quote from CoffeeOrBeer :
Wondering why is it that only Google nest come free, have never seen ecobee lite being free with pseg.

Anyone has ecobee lite free with their provider ?
Ecobee is free with Alabama Power so is Nest or pretty much any smart thermostat under 200$ they just give up to 200$ back when you buy it.
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Aug 5, 2022 9:14 PM
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faceless128Aug 5, 2022 9:14 PM
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Georgia Power has the Nest for $49.99 and Nest Learning for $104
Aug 5, 2022 10:24 PM
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djaggerAug 5, 2022 10:24 PM
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Quote from colickyboy :
I've seen the option on my Nest asking if I want to join. I selected no. And I still have the thermostat frequently set to a temperature I've never set it to (so it's not learning that temperature from my past settings)—even in non-peak periods—and Nest also has told me that the temp I'm trying to set will happen in x number of minutes in the future (amount of time has varied) and the system will not turn on until that time has elapsed.

So you saying "this isn't something that will happen without a persons knowledge or consent and that you as the consumer, ALWAYS have final control" is what they want you to believe, but in my personal experience, that is not true. I used to believe what you believed and made the same arguments until I saw what was happening to me.
Ooooooo conspiracies! Who is the "they" (of "they want you to believe") that you're referring to?

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Aug 5, 2022 10:41 PM
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pugsandkittiesAug 5, 2022 10:41 PM
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Make sure your house is compatible with 3 wire instead of 2. I got 3 of theses last year and my house wiring was not compatible. No returns
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FinsUp99Aug 5, 2022 11:27 PM
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Quote from hinghing1113 :
Does this nest require C wire to install now?
In the past, the nest broke my furnace because I don't have C wire.
Unless you want to keep putting batteries into it, yes. I need to run a C wire to mine. I've heard in some cases Google pays for the service call to do it. Haven't gotten around to it yet.
Aug 5, 2022 11:31 PM
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2AdudeAug 5, 2022 11:31 PM
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Quote from Btrotta1 :
Beware, that some utilities will require you to allow them to control the thermostat during peak usage periods in order to get the discounted price.

If you have privacy concerns or can't stand to have your house above 60 degrees during a heatwave, this may not be for you.
That's a flat out lie.
Aug 5, 2022 11:33 PM
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2AdudeAug 5, 2022 11:33 PM
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Quote from colickyboy :
I've seen the option on my Nest asking if I want to join. I selected no. And I still have the thermostat frequently set to a temperature I've never set it to (so it's not learning that temperature from my past settings)—even in non-peak periods—and Nest also has told me that the temp I'm trying to set will happen in x number of minutes in the future (amount of time has varied) and the system will not turn on until that time has elapsed.

So you saying "this isn't something that will happen without a persons knowledge or consent and that you as the consumer, ALWAYS have final control" is what they want you to believe, but in my personal experience, that is not true. I used to believe what you believed and made the same arguments until I saw what was happening to me.
He is right, you have absolute control.
The nest thermostat is trying to learn your habits. A product is not inferior simply because the consumer is the ignorant component. Learn how the damn thing works
Aug 5, 2022 11:37 PM
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IndigoMorning6118Aug 5, 2022 11:37 PM
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Ecobee or bust
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Aug 6, 2022 12:18 AM
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westmiAug 6, 2022 12:18 AM
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Quote from reelbusy :
that thermostat sucks, the home app is shockingly crappy too. get the ecobee if you want one of these data miners, reliable, good app, easy to program and setup.

With all due respect, Google Nest Learning Thermostat was a huge favorite by Consumer reports scoring 83/100. ecobee Smart with Voice Control EB-STATe5-01 was the closest in 5th place with a score of 73
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Aug 6, 2022 12:44 AM
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wankawitzAug 6, 2022 12:44 AM
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Kinda tricky to tell which are older/which generation they are if you're not familiar with thermostats (like me). Thinking about GA01334-US for 0$ or GA02081 for $50. Thinking about going for the $50 one https://srpmarketplace.com/google...STATX.html

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oceanoneAug 6, 2022 1:02 AM
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lol florida where AC are blowing 24/7 365 dont run any promotions for years thanks to DeathSantis
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