Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.
Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.
Offer Notes:
Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):
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Various Utility Companies are offering current Account Holders in Select States: Google Nest Thermostat or Nest Learning Thermostat on sale for prices listed below. Shipping may vary by location and provider.
Thanks to Staff Member DLS4U for sharing this deal.
Offer Notes:
Rebate amounts and requirements vary depending on the utility provider; requirements may include enrollment in rewards/savings programs. Other limitations & eligibility requirements may apply, e.g., connection to central AC.
Example Participating Locations/Services (prices below after all rebates & discounts, which may require enrollment in a savings/rewards program):
I came here expecting some of these replies and wanted to give a reasonable answer.
First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
You're energy usage is the product. Utilities offer rebates for these types of products (just like LED lights or insulation) because they can save energy. Most utilities in the United States are decoupled from their revenue. Meaning that the utility receives the same revenue regardless of the energy they delivery. So it's in their best interest to help you save energy. You as their utility consumer using less energy = the utility having to delivery less energy or build more energy infrastructure. That's the entire point here.
It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
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Friend of mine recently had to replace his if you look at the specs this does not support as many wiring options as the big nest or ecobee. In his case his heat pump/ac and gas heat could not be hooked up together with this unit. Just something to be aware of.
Absolute BS. Dude is watching too many Terminator movies and thinks "the machines" know when he is going to the grocery store so they can turn off his A/C.
Yeah you got it all figured out ace, totally debunked it all thank you so much for the valuable input!!!
Absolute BS. Dude is watching too many Terminator movies and thinks "the machines" know when he is going to the grocery store so they can turn off his A/C.
You can tell someone knows something when they say something. Likewise, you can tell when they don't say anything they don't know anything.
I'm just repeating what you said. Please tell me which of my statements (paraphrased) are untrue about what you said?
1. You can go to the grocery store and while you are out, the device/application will shut down your thermostat so that it could potentially go from 72 to 80.
2. This device and the applications are awful.
3. You know they're awful because you work on them specifically and program them..
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First - no, the utilities are generally not "controlling" your thermostat. The situation these commenters are referring to is called demand response (DR). Where the utilities will pay their consumers to shift or reduce their demand during times of grid strain to reduce the likelihood of brown or blackouts. For this to happen you need to enroll in the DR program itself, you'll know if you're doing this. Utilities can't just enroll you without your notice.
Second - even if you are in one of these DR programs, you absolutely always have final control over your thermostat and temperature setting. You ALWAYS have the option to opt-out of DR events and keep your thermostat or AC humming along at whatever temperature you want. Yes, if you're enrolled in one of these DR programs and you opt-out, your electric bill may be higher. But that's the whole point. If the utility is offering free stuff (like a thermostat) and ongoing revenue to participate in a DR program, but you opt-out of actually participating? It hurts the utility (and the rest of the grid for that matter), who was expecting you to provide relief so there is some financial incentives there.
I'm just tried of people sensationalizing this stuff. Geeze.
My experience here is as someone who helps implement some of these types of programs for a few utilities around the country. I predominately work with commercial and industrial customers but interact with the residential side of things as well.
It's not about data mining for the utility. They don't get that visibility with any demand response programs. Does google for their nest product? Sure, but that's different than what other folks have being talking about here as google isn't offering the rebate. It's about the utility having an incentive to encourage you to use less energy, that's why they offer rebates and discounts on these things.
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Stop being stupid and I won't need to keep it up.
1. You can go to the grocery store and while you are out, the device/application will shut down your thermostat so that it could potentially go from 72 to 80.
2. This device and the applications are awful.
3. You know they're awful because you work on them specifically and program them..
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