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Shun Sora 6" Chef's Knife

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Cutlery and More has Shun Sora 6" Chef's Knife for $69.95. Shipping is free.

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Key Features:
  • Hand-sharpened 16° double-bevel blade; stain resistant; 60-61 Rockwell Hardness
  • Constructed of VG10 super steel clad with one layer of stainless steel on each side creating a san mai edge
  • Two blade sections are laser cut and fit together like a puzzle, braze welding permanently joins them
  • Wavy pattern at the joint is based on traditional Japanese sword hamon lines
  • Traditional Japanese handle design with a textured PP/TPE blend; stainless steel debossed logo
  • Handcrafted in Seki City, Japan

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    • This price is $20 lower (22% savings) than the list price of $89.95.
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    • Rating of 4.7 from over 320 Amazon customer reviews.
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Cutlery and More has Shun Sora 6" Chef's Knife for $69.95. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member GimmeYoTots for finding this deal.

Key Features:
  • Hand-sharpened 16° double-bevel blade; stain resistant; 60-61 Rockwell Hardness
  • Constructed of VG10 super steel clad with one layer of stainless steel on each side creating a san mai edge
  • Two blade sections are laser cut and fit together like a puzzle, braze welding permanently joins them
  • Wavy pattern at the joint is based on traditional Japanese sword hamon lines
  • Traditional Japanese handle design with a textured PP/TPE blend; stainless steel debossed logo
  • Handcrafted in Seki City, Japan

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $20 lower (22% savings) than the list price of $89.95.
  • About this product:
    • 10-year warranty
    • Rating of 4.7 from over 320 Amazon customer reviews.
  • About this store:
  • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.
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keenkeen
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Decent price and a decent entry level Japanese knife for someone wanting to start going down that rabbit hole. Looks like Amazon has the same deal so not really slick overall.
SeriousSummer975
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Then you should know that this is their entry level, cheaper knife set.
BCNugget
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Shun steel is a bit too hard for my taste. Once dulled very hard to bring that edge back. And if I look very closely at the edge it is looks like it has taken a few micro chips. I prefer the Global blend of steel for reasonably priced Asian knifes.

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Aug 15, 2022 05:28 PM
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EagerSoda674Aug 15, 2022 05:28 PM
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Quote from BCNugget :
Shun steel is a bit too hard for my taste. Once dulled very hard to bring that edge back. And if I look very closely at the edge it is looks like it has taken a few micro chips. I prefer the Global blend of steel for reasonably priced Asian knifes.
It should be noted that Shun will sharpen the knives free of cost (you pay shipping) for life so you should be able to send it out once a year for professional sharpening and keep it honen in-between and be fine.
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Aug 15, 2022 05:42 PM
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lordvoom2Aug 15, 2022 05:42 PM
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Quote from g725s :
This has harder steel, and if sharpened properly can be sharper
It is just a touch higher on the hardness scale but not enough to make a noticeable difference.
Aug 15, 2022 05:43 PM
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ppsagehenAug 15, 2022 05:43 PM
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chips too easy for our family. if you are the type of person to carefully rinse and put away immediately after use probably a good knife..
and have all the Shun's I buy get chipped within a year by my careless household..
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Aug 15, 2022 05:55 PM
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ThisAintADealAug 15, 2022 05:55 PM
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It's too small
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Aug 15, 2022 06:06 PM
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roninidoAug 15, 2022 06:06 PM
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Quote from EagerSoda674 :
It should be noted that Shun will sharpen the knives free of cost (you pay shipping) for life so you should be able to send it out once a year for professional sharpening and keep it honen in-between and be fine.
As someone noted before, their "free" sharpening is offered after a $15 processing and shipping fee, and you need to ship the knife to them at your cost. So " free" sharpening should cost at least around $20 per knife.
Aug 15, 2022 06:55 PM
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sillar68Aug 15, 2022 06:55 PM
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Quote from roninido :
As someone noted before, their "free" sharpening is offered after a $15 processing and shipping fee, and you need to ship the knife to them at your cost. So " free" sharpening should cost at least around $20 per knife.
Did Shun say they were going to pay for shipping?
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Aug 15, 2022 07:10 PM
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jc4jax
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Aug 15, 2022 07:10 PM
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Quote from KetoTonic :
Is this better than the Wusthof Classic?
Depends on what you plan on cutting. I got a Wusthof Ikon 8" chef for breaking down chicken and bone since German steel is softer (56-58 HRC) it is less likely to chip and easier to sharpen (and dull)
Japanese steel like everyone said is harder so keeps its edge longer (great at slicing/chopping veggies and boneless meat for longer) but is easier to chip and not as easy to sharpen than the Wusthof (some you shouldn't use on a ceramic rod as it can develop micro-chipping). I just bought a 9.4" gyuto made by Shiro Kamo with aogami super that can't be left in water for extended period of time unlike the stainless Wusthof and it needs oiling so more maintenance, the Shun Kaji utility from that recent Shun clearance is sg2 so is less reactive and easier to maintain but I won't be able to sharpen the serration myself
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Aug 15, 2022 09:44 PM
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sdedalus1Aug 15, 2022 09:44 PM
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Quote from BCNugget :
Shun steel is a bit too hard for my taste. Once dulled very hard to bring that edge back. And if I look very closely at the edge it is looks like it has taken a few micro chips. I prefer the Global blend of steel for reasonably priced Asian knifes.
Agree on the first part. I treat this knife well, and store on magnetic rack. But I have a ton of microchips and a few larger ones. I sharpen regularly on sandpaper. For general kitchen use, I prefer my $20 Victorinox chef's knife, which gets just as sharp and is easier to sharpen. Perhaps my use case is just better suited to the European as opposed to Japanese approach to steel.
Aug 15, 2022 10:20 PM
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King0fSpadesAug 15, 2022 10:20 PM
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Quote from roninido :
As someone noted before, their "free" sharpening is offered after a $15 processing and shipping fee, and you need to ship the knife to them at your cost. So " free" sharpening should cost at least around $20 per knife.
So you cannot send 3 knives for $15? It is per knife?
Aug 15, 2022 11:44 PM
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jfm123Aug 15, 2022 11:44 PM
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much better knife than 99% of people own. I have the premier 8" and it's an amazing all-around knife, ground to cut like an absolute laser. It looks like this one has all the features at a much lower cost, just a cheaper handle and less wear resistant steel - but still very good. VG10 is a good steel. most people will be shocked at how nice these knives are.
Aug 16, 2022 09:29 AM
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Cash_EngineerAug 16, 2022 09:29 AM
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Avoid these at all costs......yes the brand is legendary. But this knife is what's known as an insert blade....except the method they used was more like making a core of dirt cheap steel and then wrapping it in a super thin layer of Stainless steel. They then use a puzzle shaped handle section that is only actually grabbing a small section of the blade butt length (but nowhere near full tang) to lock with the handle around that small section extending off the "cheap metal core" section to be finished with a brazing weld. Basically, you will absolutely instantly start seeing rust on sections of the blade not covered by the thin stainless layer and left exposed. Additionally, since the handle is only constructed with contact with such a small extension of metal off the blade, you risk the blade breaking off clean at the joining point dislocation. So again.....great brand abusing their legacy.
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Aug 16, 2022 10:39 AM
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techbuffAug 16, 2022 10:39 AM
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Quote from g725s :
This has harder steel, and if sharpened properly can be sharper
This or the Wustoff legende 6 inch from earlier this week?
Aug 16, 2022 07:45 PM
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awdemuthAug 16, 2022 07:45 PM
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Quote from Cash_Enginee :
Avoid these at all costs......yes the brand is legendary. But this knife is what's known as an insert blade....except the method they used was more like making a core of dirt cheap steel and then wrapping it in a super thin layer of Stainless steel. They then use a puzzle shaped handle section that is only actually grabbing a small section of the blade butt length (but nowhere near full tang) to lock with the handle around that small section extending off the "cheap metal core" section to be finished with a brazing weld. Basically, you will absolutely instantly start seeing rust on sections of the blade not covered by the thin stainless layer and left exposed. Additionally, since the handle is only constructed with contact with such a small extension of metal off the blade, you risk the blade breaking off clean at the joining point dislocation. So again.....great brand abusing their legacy.
Your description of the blade sounds like san mai construction, wherein a thin section of hard (aka brittle) blade is sandwiched between two pieces of softer steel in order to keep it from breaking as easily, giving it the hardness to hold an edge well, but strength and flexibility of the softer steel sides to support it. It's actually an expensive process and it's far far cheaper to just use one solid piece of metal. I'm actually quite interested in the construction you speak of - rust prone carbon steel doesn't like to forge weld to stainless (at least not in the presence of oxygen) so maybe they brazed the two together? Or perhaps the center steel is stainless and simply fewer rust inhibitors - stainless steel can still rust, it's not called stain-free for a reason. I guess at an industrial level it could be forged in the presence of an inert gas as well. In any case, all of these methods are quite expensive compared to forging one single piece of steel.

As far as your assessment of the handle, Japanese knives usually just have a partial tang set into the handle. You can drop 4 digits on one and still find this construction method (and chances are high that that $1000 knife is made of rust prone carbon steel instead of stainless steel). Having a full tang just isn't that big of a deal with kitchen knives unless you're talking about heavy duty knives like a butcher knife, meat cleaver or a Dutch cheese knife. Even then, the very heavy hon-deba doesn't have a full tang, so it's probably not necessary in the grand scheme of things. I use Japanese knives with partial tangs and Western knives with full and partial tangs. Personally, I prefer a lighter knife with a blade-heavy balance (balance is largely dependent on the knife type, handle material, and on personal preference to some degree), therefore a full tang isn't what I gravitate towards. I've never had a decent quality partial or stick tang knife break. I'll point at my trusty Victorinox as an example of a bomb-proof partial tang knife. At one point in my career, I'm quite certain my 8"chef's knife chopped a literal ton of onions every year for 4 years straight, on top of the other veg it handled which probably doubled the amount of veg it processed. I left that job a decade ago and I still use that knife nearly every day with no signs of it giving up. I've had to replace the handle on inexpensive and pricey Japanese knives before, but it's not difficult since they're designed for easy replacement - 1 hour of active work at most and some more time waiting for glue to dry. I've also had to rescale a mid-range full tang knife, which is nowhere an easy of a task.
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Quote from awdemuth :
Your description of the blade sounds like san mai construction, wherein a thin section of hard (aka brittle) blade is sandwiched between two pieces of softer steel in order to keep it from breaking as easily, giving it the hardness to hold an edge well, but strength and flexibility of the softer steel sides to support it. It's actually an expensive process and it's far far cheaper to just use one solid piece of metal. I'm actually quite interested in the construction you speak of - rust prone carbon steel doesn't like to forge weld to stainless (at least not in the presence of oxygen) so maybe they brazed the two together? Or perhaps the center steel is stainless and simply fewer rust inhibitors - stainless steel can still rust, it's not called stain-free for a reason. I guess at an industrial level it could be forged in the presence of an inert gas as well. In any case, all of these methods are quite expensive compared to forging one single piece of steel.

As far as your assessment of the handle, Japanese knives usually just have a partial tang set into the handle. You can drop 4 digits on one and still find this construction method (and chances are high that that $1000 knife is made of rust prone carbon steel instead of stainless steel). Having a full tang just isn't that big of a deal with kitchen knives unless you're talking about heavy duty knives like a butcher knife, meat cleaver or a Dutch cheese knife. Even then, the very heavy hon-deba doesn't have a full tang, so it's probably not necessary in the grand scheme of things. I use Japanese knives with partial tangs and Western knives with full and partial tangs. Personally, I prefer a lighter knife with a blade-heavy balance (balance is largely dependent on the knife type, handle material, and on personal preference to some degree), therefore a full tang isn't what I gravitate towards. I've never had a decent quality partial or stick tang knife break. I'll point at my trusty Victorinox as an example of a bomb-proof partial tang knife. At one point in my career, I'm quite certain my 8"chef's knife chopped a literal ton of onions every year for 4 years straight, on top of the other veg it handled which probably doubled the amount of veg it processed. I left that job a decade ago and I still use that knife nearly every day with no signs of it giving up. I've had to replace the handle on inexpensive and pricey Japanese knives before, but it's not difficult since they're designed for easy replacement - 1 hour of active work at most and some more time waiting for glue to dry. I've also had to rescale a mid-range full tang knife, which is nowhere an easy of a task.
Great comment...but is it better than my Ginsu knife

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