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Oct 9, 2022 12:15 AM

1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (Refurbished)

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Best Buy has 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus PCIe Gen 3 x4 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (Geek Squad Certified Refurbished, GSRF MZ-V7S1T0BAM) on sale for $69.99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where stock permits.

Thanks to community member xlrgwillystyles for finding this deal.

Note, pickup availability will vary by location.

Features:
  • 1TB Storage Capacity
  • PCI Express 3.0 x4
  • M.2 2280 Form Factor
  • Up to 3500 MB/s Sequential Read Speed
  • Up to 3300 MB/s Sequential Write Speed
  • 600 TBW Endurance
  • 1.5 Million Hour MTBF
  • AES 256-Bit Encryption
  • Samsung V-NAND 3-Bit MLC Flash
  • SMART & TRIM Support

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Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $10 lower than this Frontpage Deal for a new, non-refurbished model of this drive.
  • About this product:
    • Comes with a 90 day limited warranty.
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    • Information about Best Buy returns can be found here
  • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.

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Best Buy has 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus PCIe Gen 3 x4 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (Geek Squad Certified Refurbished, GSRF MZ-V7S1T0BAM) on sale for $69.99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where stock permits.

Thanks to community member xlrgwillystyles for finding this deal.

Note, pickup availability will vary by location.

Features:
  • 1TB Storage Capacity
  • PCI Express 3.0 x4
  • M.2 2280 Form Factor
  • Up to 3500 MB/s Sequential Read Speed
  • Up to 3300 MB/s Sequential Write Speed
  • 600 TBW Endurance
  • 1.5 Million Hour MTBF
  • AES 256-Bit Encryption
  • Samsung V-NAND 3-Bit MLC Flash
  • SMART & TRIM Support

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $10 lower than this Frontpage Deal for a new, non-refurbished model of this drive.
  • About this product:
    • Comes with a 90 day limited warranty.
  • About this store:
    • Information about Best Buy returns can be found here
  • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.

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Oct 17, 2022 6:53 PM
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WingsOfFOct 17, 2022 6:53 PM
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Quote from Shimejii View quoted comment :
Theres a defect with them thats only been recently brought to light sadly. They are still a gold standard, but expect quite a lot of RMAs with that batch Frown I still use a 970 Evo and 850 evo (so far from what ive seen its only the 970 evo plus and beyond) and the 870 Sata based ones that have this specific defect in the NAND. It was first reported with a decent amount of detail about a month ago, and if you actually use the Samsung magician software or one of those it does help to keep track. Its something to just be known about, and the more people know about the potential issue the better!
No disrespect but this is a really bad post along with your first one.

I have no reason to disbelieve you but without sources, it is hard to believe the extent of what you are saying. Or judge whether you are spreading FUD intentionally or otherwise.

The models you listed earlier have very different NAND chips MLC and TLC, so it is unlikely a NAND production error. They also have multiple controllers, so it is unlikely to be controller error.

Google search only brings up some forum posts and long deleted Reddit posts of anecdotal experiences that can exist for any SSD.

But you suggest several articles and have so far refused to back it up with sources.

Again, I am not saying you are necessarily wrong but credibility is not high for the claims or you could be mistaken in what you read or may have generalized or extrapolated too much.

Until there is some credible sources to check, your posts should be taken as an unsubstantiated rumor. This is the worst use of a user forum.
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Oct 17, 2022 6:55 PM
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arbitragerOct 17, 2022 6:55 PM
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Quote from MBis View quoted comment :
Damn, so what SSD is currently most reliable?
samsung by far.

their warranty is awesome, send it back to them and they sent back new ones twice now over the course of 5 years since I use only samsung SSDs
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Oct 17, 2022 6:55 PM
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xlrgwillystyles
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Oct 17, 2022 6:55 PM
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received mine and according to Samsung Magician / S.M.A.R.T it was ~1hr of use.

Installed and works perfectly!
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Oct 17, 2022 7:50 PM
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chuckdealzOct 17, 2022 7:50 PM
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Mine arrived. Had 200 GB prior use. I'm a call that a solid win.
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Oct 17, 2022 8:01 PM
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ShimejiiOct 17, 2022 8:01 PM
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Quote from xtp View quoted comment :
could you link to the article, what's happened ?
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1...this-year/ This is one i saw and was curious about

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1...save-data/ This one has the exact same issue

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmaster...n4_failed/ More posts about the 980 pro

https://www.cnbeta.com/articles/tech/1313507.htm If you want to auto translate from Chinese to english or w/e. Same exact issue.

Its a known issue and its gonna get worse. Give it more time, more articles will be written about this specific issue to those who actually know how this works in detail and will break it down hopefully.
Oct 17, 2022 8:26 PM
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hpark21Oct 17, 2022 8:26 PM
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You have to make sure that the drive has never been registered with Samsung prior to your purchase as Samsung specifies that the warranty is non-transferable.

TECHNICALLY, Samsung does NOT warranty "open box/refurb" items so make SURE you do not send in your receipt if warranty is needed which also means that you want to make sure manufactured date is relatively recent since that is what they go by for warranty.
Oct 17, 2022 8:29 PM
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turns2stoneOct 17, 2022 8:29 PM
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I got one of these. Per Crystal Disk Info, it had about 200GB of read/writes, but 0 hours power-on time. As I used it a bit, the power-on time got to 1, 2, 3 hours (as expected).
But I think Crystal Disk is either reading wrong info about the read/writes, or some of that data is present 'when new'. Because my drive certainly looked and behaved as new.

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Oct 17, 2022 8:51 PM
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BuyMoreChuckOct 17, 2022 8:51 PM
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So what is the difference between gen 4 and gen 5. Are not all M2 devices the same? Are the backward compatible? So you should not purchase this if you do not have your machine built yet. Is that what I am hearing?

Is there a simple way to tell if you have Gen 4 or 5. I purchased the Acer on slickdeals, but the Acer website does not make any distinction.
Last edited by BuyMoreChuck October 17, 2022 at 01:55 PM.
Oct 17, 2022 8:59 PM
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turns2stoneOct 17, 2022 8:59 PM
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Quote from BuyMoreChuck View quoted comment :
So what is the difference between gen 4 and gen 5. Are not all M2 devices the same? Are the backward compatible? So you should not purchase this if you do not have your machine built yet. Is that what I am hearing?

Is there a simple way to tell if you have Gen 4 or 5. I purchased the Acer on slickdeals, but the Acer website does not make any distinction.
You don't have a PCIe Gen 5 capable laptop Wink

Gen 4 is faster than 3, but they're all backwards compatible, and it's very unlikely you'd even notice the difference between 3/4/5.
Oct 17, 2022 9:15 PM
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WingsOfFOct 17, 2022 9:15 PM
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Quote from Shimejii View quoted comment :
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1...this-year/ This is one i saw and was curious about

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1...save-data/ This one has the exact same issue

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmaster...n4_failed/ More posts about the 980 pro

https://www.cnbeta.com/articles/tech/1313507.htm If you want to auto translate from Chinese to english or w/e. Same exact issue.

Its a known issue and its gonna get worse. Give it more time, more articles will be written about this specific issue to those who actually know how this works in detail and will break it down hopefully.
This is also pretty bad post. I am beginning to think there might be a smear campaign going on.

All those are anecdotal posts by a few people with very few followups. Some unverified reports from China. Please don't refer to forum posts as articles if you are serious about informing people.

I am not defending Samsung here. I haven't actually recommended any Samsung drives because I always find good, cheaper alternatives but I am really sensitive to misinformation created on the Internet.

I am now beginning to wonder if the reports of Crucial MX500 firmware issue is also a similar campaign. Hmmm..

First of all, a normal failure rate would have such a small sample of anecdotal data. Second, if there was more than such rates, any of these threads would have follow ups from an increasing number of people and it would be picked up by blogs and articles. These reports have been around for months to a year. There would be noticeable reviews on retail sites noting failures. For now, all of these stories could have been planted by just a couple of people.

Inclusion of so many different NAND products and controllers as alleged seems very fishy to me.

I might be totally wrong but I am calling this fake news. Until, there are some credible reports…
Last edited by WingsOfF October 17, 2022 at 02:17 PM.
Oct 17, 2022 11:04 PM
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Jack SchittOct 17, 2022 11:04 PM
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Quote from clsA View quoted comment :
Not at all, many of these drives have almost no use at all.
The one I got has under 1gb of use and less than one day.
It looked like they just tested it and repackaged it in its original box (SN is on the box).

people return these for many reasons besides them being bad. maybe they meant to get the Pro or the Gen 4 and just returned it for an exchange.

it's easy to see how much the drive is used with crystal disk info (free download) and Samsung Magician tell you all you need to know. If it has a lot of use return it.
Yes - this. I bit on one just to check it out. I have several Lenovo e570's and an e590 that could use a decent NVMe drive and this should fit the bill nicely to make one of them quite acceptable for daily usage (or resale). Cheap upgrade for ~$75 IMO.
Oct 17, 2022 11:50 PM
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Frank_NittyOct 17, 2022 11:50 PM
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Anybody who wants to take a chance and roll the dice on these refurbs can have it. I'll pass though.
Oct 18, 2022 1:26 AM
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xcopyOct 18, 2022 1:26 AM
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Quote from CoreyR2384 View quoted comment :
Samsung magician shows the time left on the warranty, which transfers with ownership. Most refurbished drives I've bought had 4+ years left. The P31 is a great drive. I have one in my system, but it's 26% more expensive when it's on sale.
Perhaps you missed it, but I own 6 (I said 5+ because I forget where I put them all) Samsung SSDs so I'm not knocking them. I'm only knocking saving $20+ dollars over the SKH drive or $30 for a new Samsung. Just not worth it IMO.

BTW - I have a new 2TB SKH P-31 (my 2nd SKH drive) in this XPS I"m typing on now, which just had its Samsung SSD kicked to the curb. The only time the fan comes on is when some MS program (Edge?) spins out of control and starts eating the cpu. Otherwise, it's cool, quiet, and so far I think I made the right decision.

Other - Edge is pretty much excrement IMO. I use it for a work app, but it's heavy on the spyware IMO.
Oct 18, 2022 3:08 PM
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mitchg4723Oct 18, 2022 3:08 PM
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Quote from Frank_Nitty View quoted comment :
Anybody who wants to take a chance and roll the dice on these refurbs can have it. I'll pass though.
Agreed. 90 day warranty to save $30. Just pay the extra and get thier 5 year warranty, Samsung is actually really good about their warranty.

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Oct 18, 2022 3:58 PM
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BuyMoreChuckOct 18, 2022 3:58 PM
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Quote from SamS View quoted comment :
You don't have a PCIe Gen 5 capable laptop Wink

Gen 4 is faster than 3, but they're all backwards compatible, and it's very unlikely you'd even notice the difference between 3/4/5.
Thanks. It is a good price. The Acer I have is a mini-tower desktop. But if there is little difference this seems like a good price.

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