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expiredDr.W posted Oct 16, 2022 04:01 PM
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expiredDr.W posted Oct 16, 2022 04:01 PM

Lenovo IdeaPad Windows Duet 3i: 10.3" FHD+ IPS Touch, N4020, 4GB DDR4, 128GB eMMC + Keyboard $199.99

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SPECS:
  • 10.3" FHD+ (1920x1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 340-nits, Glossy, Touch IPS Display
  • Intel Celeron N4020 (2C / 2T, 1.1 / 2.8GHz, 4MB)
  • 4GB Soldered DDR4-2400 RAM
  • 128GB eMMC 5.1
  • Integrated Intel UHD Graphics 600
  • Wi-Fi 5 11ac, 2x2 + BT5.0
  • Non-backlit, English Keyboard
  • Front 2.0MP / Rear 5.0MP Camera
  • Stereo speakers, 1W x2, optimized with Dolby Audio
  • 30Whr Battery
  • PC + ABS + Magnesium-Aluminum (Kickstand)
  • Weight:
    • Pad: around 597 g (1.32 lbs.)
    • Folio: around 269 g (0.59 lbs.)
    • Total: around 866 g (1.91 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 (support data transfer, Power Delivery 3.0 and DisplayPort 1.2)
    • 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 (support data transfer and DisplayPort 1.2)
    • 1x microSD card slot
    • 1x Headphone / microphone combo jack (3.5mm)

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/leno...Id=6481059
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$199.99 $379.99

SPECS:
  • 10.3" FHD+ (1920x1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 340-nits, Glossy, Touch IPS Display
  • Intel Celeron N4020 (2C / 2T, 1.1 / 2.8GHz, 4MB)
  • 4GB Soldered DDR4-2400 RAM
  • 128GB eMMC 5.1
  • Integrated Intel UHD Graphics 600
  • Wi-Fi 5 11ac, 2x2 + BT5.0
  • Non-backlit, English Keyboard
  • Front 2.0MP / Rear 5.0MP Camera
  • Stereo speakers, 1W x2, optimized with Dolby Audio
  • 30Whr Battery
  • PC + ABS + Magnesium-Aluminum (Kickstand)
  • Weight:
    • Pad: around 597 g (1.32 lbs.)
    • Folio: around 269 g (0.59 lbs.)
    • Total: around 866 g (1.91 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 (support data transfer, Power Delivery 3.0 and DisplayPort 1.2)
    • 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 (support data transfer and DisplayPort 1.2)
    • 1x microSD card slot
    • 1x Headphone / microphone combo jack (3.5mm)

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/leno...Id=6481059

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Oct 16, 2022 04:12 PM
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ImaPuppyOct 16, 2022 04:12 PM
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Big yikes on the specs. Should be running Chrome OS with the 4020.
Oct 16, 2022 06:26 PM
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zambadisOct 16, 2022 06:26 PM
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Seriously, this should be illegal.
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Oct 17, 2022 12:27 AM
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The_Love_SpudOct 17, 2022 12:27 AM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank The_Love_Spud

Considering the specifications, and despite the packaging, this really is more of a right price than slick deal. This device wants to position itself as a competitively priced Surface clone. However, the 2-core Atom-based N4020 CPU inside limits the performance of this device to something like the older 4-core Atom-based Surface 3 (which, unsurprisingly, also often pops up in the $100-200 range these days). The Surface Go 2 value tablets still nab over $300 these days, but their super-efficient m3-8100 and Pentium Gold 4425Y CPUs stomp all over the Atom-based CPUs in this deals because despite their power and core-count limitations they at least start with full i-series cores. Of course, their performance advantage doesn't actually recommend them as daily driver PCs for much...

Simply because a CPU can run Windows doesn't mean that CPU should be used to run Windows. I don't mean to suggest this computer is broken, but I would suggest that anyone shopping for a general-purpose daily driver PC could be making better investments despite the tempting price points manufacturers have achieved with CPUs like the one in this device.

Many of these ultra-low power CPUs were originally intended for embedded applications and not as general purpose computers. However, since these CPUs are also fully compatible x86 CPUs - and cheap ones at that! - manufacturers could pump out PCs at new amazing price points. Too bad that for the buyer the experience was never going to be particularly good when using a CPU better suited to digital signage than rendering video in Windows using Adobe Premiere (or Minecraft, or video conferencing with grandma, etc.).

Additionally, Windows doesn't really perform well anymore at 4GB. More than half of the RAM space can be consumed at idle after booting up(!) - and in a 4GB PC this is incomplete as Windows is forced to limit how much of the operating system is loaded into RAM to conserve space. Paired with a weak CPU this just creates a negative feedback loop wherein your first application loaded after booting up starts demanding loads of page file/virtual memory/SSD-storage-as-RAM and the CPU to service those requests was already being overtasked with the basics of running Windows. Windows PCs limited to 4GB, especially those not equipped with 4-core i-series CPUs, are better suited to power users who can make the appropriate optimizations (possibly including removing Windows for a Linux operating system).

Good luck!
Jon
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Oct 17, 2022 02:38 AM
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slickkittyOct 17, 2022 02:38 AM
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Seriously I think this is a bad deal, price is way too high.
Oct 17, 2022 03:28 AM
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The_Love_SpudOct 17, 2022 03:28 AM
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Quote from slickkitty :
Seriously I think this is a bad deal, price is way too high.
I'd compare this to a laptop with comparable specs (typically around $100) and then add a $100 premium for the tablet form factor, the 1920x1200 touchscreen, and the inclusion of the keyboard.

At the same time, there's an HP deal on in another thread with almost universally better specs (though still nothing to write home about / buy for grandma) at the same price.

Good luck!
Jon
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Oct 17, 2022 03:35 AM
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pokypig101Oct 17, 2022 03:35 AM
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I picked this up for $100 a few months ago and I'd say it's good for that price to stream videos and run the occasional program I don't want to install on my work laptop (car diagnostic tools, Calibre library, etc.)

I wouldn't recommend it if you actually plan to use it daily or even weekly.
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cheaphguyOct 17, 2022 02:55 PM
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This type of stunt is why "windows" get a bad name from the average joe/jane.

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Oct 17, 2022 09:33 PM
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Oct 17, 2022 09:33 PM
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If you plan to use as a Chromebook replacement in Window S mode this would actually be a fantastic device. Windows touch controls are a bit iffy though to ever use it detached.
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T-partyOct 18, 2022 03:58 PM
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Microsoft on eBay is selling these for $159.99, just apply the eBay coupon COUNTDOWN22 for an extra $40 off

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284994042086
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Dr.W
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Quote from T-party :
Microsoft on eBay is selling these for $159.99, just apply the eBay coupon COUNTDOWN22 for an extra $40 off

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284994042086
That's the one with 64GB storage, not 128GB.

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