expiredMbilo | Staff posted Oct 18, 2022 08:58 AM
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expiredMbilo | Staff posted Oct 18, 2022 08:58 AM
ThinkPad X1 Fold Laptop: i5-L16G7, 13" Folding Display, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD
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Do all the updates for the system you can out-of-the-box for windows 10
Then go to Microsoft and use the Windows 11 download tool and to do an installation of windows 11
As soon as Windows 11 is up and running, go to the update section for windows and pause all windows updates immediately and allow no updates to occur
Download the Intel driver assistant program directly from Intel's website. You can google the tool. Run that tool to update any drivers - specifically the intel video driver to V31 or higher
Now download the 'show and hide updates' tool from Microsoft. Run it, and hide any Intel video driver updates that Microsoft wants to install as these will be older than the one you just installed from Intel directly. Be sure to uncheck the box under advanced options where it tries to automatically fix issues. We don't want that. We just want to hide the video driver update. And that is what is causing the issues…at least it was for me and other people I read about online.
When you hide the intel video driver update that windows wants to install, it will no longer try to install that particular driver…. Hidden updates are blocked from installing 👍
So now you can go back to the regular Windows update program and unpause it and continue with regular Windows updates.
I did all of the remaining windows 11 updates of the system and it is running very well… seems stable.
The key is to prevent Microsoft/windows from installing any version 30 or older of the Intel video driver… and instead, you use the Intel driver support tool to get the latest intel video driver - version 31.
Hope this helps. Took me about 10 reinstall's to get it all figured out, and I hope I can save someone else some headaches
Wouldn't even think of buying this at that price.
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I think it went badly because of the very low TDP, older core designs, and bad optimization at launch, with the 5 cores not even running all at the same time. It is slower than the newer Intel Pentium Gold 8505 which is also 1+4 but without the fancy 3D stacking.
Then there's the price. Every product with Lakefield had insane MSRPs. Which could be justified if the experiment had worked and delivered incredible performance from 3D stacking. It didn't.
The folding gimmick is also contributing to the MSRP and current price. ASUS just released another foldable [notebookcheck.net] and that one is $3500.
Even got $1K, this type of device needs to be well implemented to make it a reasonable buy. From everything I see online, the latest gen fixes the problems of the first gen and is optimized for folding functions whereas this first gen device just didn't have the wrinkles ironed out.
This? It doesn't quite understand what it is. If you want a full size tablet you'll get a full size tablet. Not this weird hybrid of a larger tablet opened and a medium sized tablet that loses function when folded.
Yes the folds size might make it more effective/valuable for portability, but the specs don't say it should be worth more.
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Yes the folds size might make it more effective/valuable for portability, but the specs don't say it should be worth more.
If raw processing was all that matters, the Xbox One X would've outsold the PS5 and Switch already.
Yet it hasn't or will even come close.
So yeah, no. The Lenova Fold doesn't have more to offer than the Fold4.
I think it went badly because of the very low TDP, older core designs, and bad optimization at launch, with the 5 cores not even running all at the same time. It is slower than the newer Intel Pentium Gold 8505 which is also 1+4 but without the fancy 3D stacking.
Then there's the price. Every product with Lakefield had insane MSRPs. Which could be justified if the experiment had worked and delivered incredible performance from 3D stacking. It didn't.
The folding gimmick is also contributing to the MSRP and current price. ASUS just released another foldable [notebookcheck.net] and that one is $3500.
So yeah, no. The Lenova Fold doesn't have more to offer than the Fold4.
The Lenova Fold? Give me a single situation where you will need this over a small laptop or can replace a phone at the same time. You probably can't because that situation is non-existent. It doesn't serve two real world purposes. No seriously, if you make a post, give me a single situation it can replace two things in one Lenova Fold device. So again, this product doesn't understand it's own identity all that well is the issue.
Bonus - The Fold4 camera function gives a camera function that NO regular phone in existence can do right now. Use the main camera, the powerful one, to take selfies and you get to see what's being in that selfie. This in itself is a selling point that gives it another edge over conventional phones.
For Lakefield specifically, it was probably limited by the density of the memory available from Intel's supplier, the number of layers that could be included, and the very small package size that Intel was targeting with the product:
https://www.anandtech.c
In our conversations with Intel, the company steadfastly refuses to disclose who is producing the memory, and will only confirm it is not Intel. It would appear that the memory for Lakefield is likely a custom part specifically for Intel. We will have to wait until some of our peers take the strong acids to a Lakefield CPU in order to find out exactly who is working with Intel (or Intel could just tell us).
The total height, including DRAM, should be 1 mm.
I don't think an 8 GB limitation was responsible for Lakefield's low performance. Early reviews mentioned that the big core could not even run at the same time as the small cores. This was a while before Windows 11 and Alder Lake. Even with improvements, it remains an ultra low power chip with old cores (Sunny Cove and Tremont).
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The Lenova Fold? Give me a single situation where you will need this over a small laptop or can replace a phone at the same time. You probably can't because that situation is non-existent. It doesn't serve two real world purposes. No seriously, if you make a post, give me a single situation it can replace two things in one Lenova Fold device. So again, this product doesn't understand it's own identity all that well is the issue.
Bonus - The Fold4 camera function gives a camera function that NO regular phone in existence can do right now. Use the main camera, the powerful one, to take selfies and you get to see what's being in that selfie. This in itself is a selling point that gives it another edge over conventional phones.
Anyways you have your opinion and I have mine. As I said in the beginning the specs warrant the price increase, not the usefulness to any particular person.
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