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around 200 or below with bluetooth, fiio btr5 / btr7 , qudelix 5k, ifi go blu. the xDSD's bluetooth is pretty outdated. Might be okay as a wired amp / dac, but defiantly better and cheaper options out there for bluetooth use.
That applies to more traditional wired DAC/Amps, but for portable bluetooth options, new IS better. Cheaper and better DAC chips continue to disrupt the market while better bluetooth tech (bluetooth 5 and above, with LDAC, LHDC and the latest AptX-Adaptive codec, and etc) have immensely closed to gap between wired and wireless compared to older tech.
Most of those units have no battery and the ones that do have a much smaller battery. This has a 2200mAh battery with a decently powerful amp, the iFi Xbass features are a fun as well. You seem to be clueless as to what the intended use of a portable DAC / amp is and continue to spew nonsense.
I'm all for extra measurements but ASR has in many ways done a disservice to the audio community by convincing people that you should always follow SINAD and THD numbers. These numbers have been largely irrelevant for close to a decade because the tech has matured a lot and the vast majority of amps and DAC's will only distort at levels outside of human hearing or to levels that are severely ear damaging. That's not to say amps and DAC's can't sound different, but the number chasing game is mostly a pissing contest. Human ears are not measurement rigs.
I haven't been following the trend lately with portable amps and DAC. What are some of the new products out there?
around 200 or below with bluetooth, fiio btr5 / btr7 , qudelix 5k, ifi go blu. the xDSD's bluetooth is pretty outdated. Might be okay as a wired amp / dac, but defiantly better and cheaper options out there for bluetooth use.
I picked this one up, thanks OP! I needed this since the lcd i4 i just got with the cipher cables werent loud enough through BT only. Hopefully this should drive it better
A few dollars more and a topping d50 would beat this by no small margin
Except the topping D50 is not portable at all... cant take it to go running or anything like that. The point of this is to be able to connect my wired headphones to a source that can drive it well. Most phones nowadays dont even have a headphone jack and even when you use a adapter, they suck and are terrible.
Also Ifi produces high quality stuff. I owned their black label amplifier and it was worth every penny. Could drive my ZMF headphones pretty well for a portable source. Meanwhile my experience with Topping products have been mediocre. i actually owned the amp you are referring to which died randomly on me in 6 months. The company is based in China so im not surprised their quality is so poor.
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That applies to more traditional wired DAC/Amps, but for portable bluetooth options, new IS better. Cheaper and better DAC chips continue to disrupt the market while better bluetooth tech (bluetooth 5 and above, with LDAC, LHDC and the latest AptX-Adaptive codec, and etc) have immensely closed to gap between wired and wireless compared to older tech.
That applies to more traditional wired DAC/Amps, but for portable bluetooth options, new IS better. Cheaper and better DAC chips continue to disrupt the market while better bluetooth tech (bluetooth 5 and above, with LDAC, LHDC and the latest AptX-Adaptive codec, and etc) have immensely closed to gap between wired and wireless compared to older tech.
you're right re BT. i don't use bt for that. but i use it alot for tv viewing...
I have a fiio Btr7. This may have a decent dac but Ldac is the way to go for Bluetooth and the amp is super clean. That said I really like iFi. if this gets down to $150 I will jump on it.
around 200 or below with bluetooth, fiio btr5 / btr7 , qudelix 5k, ifi go blu. the xDSD's bluetooth is pretty outdated. Might be okay as a wired amp / dac, but defiantly better and cheaper options out there for bluetooth use.
Defiantly and definitely are vastly different words. Good info otherwise....
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Except the topping D50 is not portable at all... cant take it to go running or anything like that. The point of this is to be able to connect my wired headphones to a source that can drive it well. Most phones nowadays dont even have a headphone jack and even when you use a adapter, they suck and are terrible.
Also Ifi produces high quality stuff. I owned their black label amplifier and it was worth every penny. Could drive my ZMF headphones pretty well for a portable source. Meanwhile my experience with Topping products have been mediocre. i actually owned the amp you are referring to which died randomly on me in 6 months. The company is based in China so im not surprised their quality is so poor.
Hmm. Where do you think this DAC is made in ? Have you seen any specs on this DAC especially sinead or snr? This is an ifi not a chord , mytek or rme. Not in an entirely different league. And I must ask as someone who runs himself, when was the last time you saw anyone run with these things. Two separate moving objects (phone and DAC) connected by short cable in one pocket, how good is that jog going to be ?
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I'm all for extra measurements but ASR has in many ways done a disservice to the audio community by convincing people that you should always follow SINAD and THD numbers. These numbers have been largely irrelevant for close to a decade because the tech has matured a lot and the vast majority of amps and DAC's will only distort at levels outside of human hearing or to levels that are severely ear damaging. That's not to say amps and DAC's can't sound different, but the number chasing game is mostly a pissing contest. Human ears are not measurement rigs.
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i would argue, new is not better....
Also Ifi produces high quality stuff. I owned their black label amplifier and it was worth every penny. Could drive my ZMF headphones pretty well for a portable source. Meanwhile my experience with Topping products have been mediocre. i actually owned the amp you are referring to which died randomly on me in 6 months. The company is based in China so im not surprised their quality is so poor.
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you're right re BT. i don't use bt for that. but i use it alot for tv viewing...
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Also Ifi produces high quality stuff. I owned their black label amplifier and it was worth every penny. Could drive my ZMF headphones pretty well for a portable source. Meanwhile my experience with Topping products have been mediocre. i actually owned the amp you are referring to which died randomly on me in 6 months. The company is based in China so im not surprised their quality is so poor.
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