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14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM 3.5" Enterprise HDD (Manufacturer Recertified)

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Server Part Deals has 14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5" Internal Data Center Enterprise Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST14000NM001G) on sale for $129.99. Shipping is free.

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Features:
  • Standard model, ships in 512e format, Fast Format allows either 512e or 4Kn sector size
  • Helium sealed-drive design delivers lower total cost of ownership through lower power and weight
  • Digital environmental sensors to monitor internal drive conditions for optimal operation and performance
  • Proven enterprise-class reliability backed by a 2.5M-hr MTBF rating

Also Available:
12TB Seagate Exos X18 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM000J) $104.99

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Server Part Deals has 14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5" Internal Data Center Enterprise Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST14000NM001G) on sale for $129.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member HuskyDawg for sharing this deal.

Features:
  • Standard model, ships in 512e format, Fast Format allows either 512e or 4Kn sector size
  • Helium sealed-drive design delivers lower total cost of ownership through lower power and weight
  • Digital environmental sensors to monitor internal drive conditions for optimal operation and performance
  • Proven enterprise-class reliability backed by a 2.5M-hr MTBF rating

Also Available:
12TB Seagate Exos X18 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM000J) $104.99

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wbs3333
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That is kind of confusing then as the listing specs state:



The listing title then says FastFormat, not sure if that is referring to a feature of the drive or if that is the name of the Recertifiying company:

Update: FastFormat is a featue Segate drives have.



And then they define Manufacturer recertified as:



Talked to their customer service chat and they said they are recertified indeed by Seagate and that ServerPartDeals runs their own internal tests on top of it. That these drives are warrantied to have less than 50 power on hours.

attached the screenshots below.
degausser
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Be aware that this drive is apparently pretty loud, as discussed during a previous sale here: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc...rpm_19999/
nathan646
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2-year ServerPartDeals warranty, NOT Manufacturer warrantied.

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Redmont
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Quote from TravisB7539 :
It is NOT manufacturer recertified. Seller recertified.
well that's not what it says on their site — says manufacturer recent
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LivelyStraw9917
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Quote from slickdealer323 :
Are these Drives good options to start Synology NAS setup ?
TIA
Stay away from Synology
I have 2 of them both 4 bay if you want to buy
crashed WD Red so many times
lost data
never again
QNAP also bad, hacks

sticking to unraid 5 bay yotta master
no problems after 3y so far
fast
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KMan
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Quote from beggerking :
never heard of a "real-time" backup but i'd assume its exactly the same as RAID 1... basically copies across multiple storages.
I don't know what the proper term for it is, but I mean that as soon as you save something you're working on, it gets backed up, and in some cases even as you're working on something without having to save it periodically. So, real-time syncing, maybe? Is this what hot-swapping means in some cases, like with a DB that's constantly being updated so a regular backup wouldn't make sense. But the point is that however it's done you can't lose work between regular backups.
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beggerking
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Quote from KMan :
I don't know what the proper term for it is, but I mean that as soon as you save something you're working on, it gets backed up, and in some cases even as you're working on something without having to save it periodically. So, real-time syncing, maybe? Is this what hot-swapping means in some cases, like with a DB that's constantly being updated so a regular backup wouldn't make sense. But the point is that however it's done you can't lose work between regular backups.
ya, thats exactly what raid 1 is for... when you save a file, it saves an exact copy on the second storage location.

if either storage go bad, it'll automatically access the other storage so you won't lose any data or have any downtime. you can also replace the bad storage anytime aka hot swap.

database transactional backup is different however hardware wise, it uses raid as well. Most of the time, raid solves the hardware side of issue so you'll be unlikely to need to restore from backup unless there is software corruption such as a virus.
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Quote from KMan :
I don't know what the proper term for it is, but I mean that as soon as you save something you're working on, it gets backed up, and in some cases even as you're working on something without having to save it periodically. So, real-time syncing, maybe? Is this what hot-swapping means in some cases, like with a DB that's constantly being updated so a regular backup wouldn't make sense. But the point is that however it's done you can't lose work between regular backups.
You're talking about synchronous replication. Which is excellent for a high-availability system where you can afford zero downtime -- but it's not necessarily a backup. It's uptime.

Let's say you have bad data....or corruption....or any number of the viruses/extortion schemes that'll lock your entire DB or filesystem, That'll get replicated just as quickly as valid data.

You'll absolutely need previous backups BEFORE the corruption/infection to roll back to -- and that's something that RAID or replication will never provide.
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WB_K
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Quote from likeaw :
Does anyone else have concerns about reliability when there are 999 refurbs in stock?
When in doubt, do without.
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guguforyou
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I want to turn an old PC into a home server for Plex, Jellyfin, torrenting, home assistant, personal cloud, etc. How many of the 18x 12TBs would be a good starting point?

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dealz4home
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Quote from WB_K :
When in doubt, do without.
out of how many total produced?
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dealz4home
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After a 30 day test, would it have a tendency to be safer or last longer if I use it a lot or very little? I'm thinking about getting 2 of these for just long term storage and just access them occasionally when I need to....once every month or might even be as infrequent as once every 6-8 months. Is this one of those things that doesn't run as well or more likely to die if its rarely running?

I would pick up one of these and use acronis to make a copy to second drive for redundancy.
https://www.amazon.com/WEme-Exter...r=1-3&th=1

I would never trust this for anything other than a backup. This would be a very interesting backup at this price point. Especially if I have an extra one for redundancy. I would run Acronis True Image once a while so that main drive copies to the second drive.

I dont really want to do a RAID bc of the cost of a real server and the risk of losing data with a constantly running server (especially with crashes, power outage, etc). I dont really trust RAIDs. Stripes fail, etc. Dont want to deal with rebuilding the RAID.
Last edited by dealz4home December 18, 2022 at 03:47 PM.
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KMan
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Quote from LavenderPickle7682 :
You're talking about synchronous replication. Which is excellent for a high-availability system where you can afford zero downtime -- but it's not necessarily a backup. It's uptime.

Let's say you have bad data....or corruption....or any number of the viruses/extortion schemes that'll lock your entire DB or filesystem, That'll get replicated just as quickly as valid data.

You'll absolutely need previous backups BEFORE the corruption/infection to roll back to -- and that's something that RAID or replication will never provide.
I never said this was instead of regular backups, but in addition to and between them. And of course it would be complemented with proper security and date repair software. Robust solutions always involve more than one component.
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KMan
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Quote from beggerking :
ya, thats exactly what raid 1 is for... when you save a file, it saves an exact copy on the second storage location.

if either storage go bad, it'll automatically access the other storage so you won't lose any data or have any downtime. you can also replace the bad storage anytime aka hot swap.

database transactional backup is different however hardware wise, it uses raid as well. Most of the time, raid solves the hardware side of issue so you'll be unlikely to need to restore from backup unless there is software corruption such as a virus.
Yeah, that's what I meant, just didn't know what it's called or how it works.
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CTRFK8
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funny reading all the uneducated comments on how a recert is treated . Also you have a 2 year warranty so you shouldnt be complaining about anything

I bought 25 , 18TB X18 drives and only had one issue and was an easy RMA , as they paid for the shipping both ways,
After 30 days you pay for the shipping one way . Everyone today should be running Unraid , true nas or something like qnap or synology with at least 2 parity drives and should be fine.
Anyone paying 100 bucks more for the same size drive is over paying, 189 for 18TB was a deal and so is 130 for 14TB.
Drives can also fail because of lack of cooling , vibration from not being installed correctly, mishandling , and power surges from using no UPS. I use UPS on everything with sinewave power regulation . Granted WD has a better history with smart data or bad sectors , id still use seagate , especially when it is this cheap. In 2-3 years all these drives will be less than 80 bucks anyway. Also no one should be using anything less than 8TB as it is waste of hdd slots. People should be considering on selling 8TB now. I dont have the money to replace 30 drives so I am waiting another year. I run over 200 drives , about 2PiB , i know what i am talking about
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I bought a set of 4x 14TB drives from a Server Part Deals listing on eBay back in August for about $135 each. These were the SAS version of this Exos X16 drive (ST14000NM002G) but white labeled by them as "OS" instead of Seagate. They passed the extended SMART test and have been in continuous operation since then for my work & media storage with zero errors and the performance has been excellent.

Example diagnostics. (The output from all 4 of them is almost identical since they're being used in a single ZFS pool).
Quote :
SMART Health Status: OK

Grown defects during certification <not available>
Total blocks reassigned during format <not available>
Total new blocks reassigned <not available>
Power on minutes since format <not available>
Current Drive Temperature: 38 C
Drive Trip Temperature: 60 C

Accumulated power on time, hours:minutes 1808:46
Manufactured in week 15 of year 2022
Specified cycle count over device lifetime: 50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles: 41
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime: 600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles: 173
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Error counter log:
Errors Corrected by Total Correction Gigabytes Total
ECC rereads/ errors algorithm processed uncorrected
fast | delayed rewrites corrected invocations [10^9 bytes] errors
read: 0 0 0 0 0 30636.633 0
write: 0 0 0 0 0 2028.653 0
verify: 0 0 0 0 0 2.332 0

Non-medium error count: 0

Pending defect count:0 Pending Defects

[GLTSD (Global Logging Target Save Disable) set. Enable Save with '-S on']
SMART Self-test log
Num Test Status segment LifeTime LBA_first_err [SK ASC ASQ]
Description number (hours)
# 1 Background short Completed - 26 - [- - -]

Long (extended) Self-test duration: 76320 seconds [21.2 hours]

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ttplayer4life
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Quote from GreatG :
Most CC extended warranty don't cover refurnished, I remember.
Only SOME AMEX CC covers refurbished. Also most CC extended warranty require MANUFACTURER Warranty, not 2nd party Warranty.

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